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Build a new steamlocomotive.
Posted by JanOlov on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:05 PM
Which steamlocomotive would you like to see being built new again and why?
I'd choose Milwaukee Road's Class A and F-7. Just because their beauty and speed.
Would you be able to that today, does the plans for them still exist??

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Build a new steamlocomotive.
Posted by JanOlov on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:05 PM
Which steamlocomotive would you like to see being built new again and why?
I'd choose Milwaukee Road's Class A and F-7. Just because their beauty and speed.
Would you be able to that today, does the plans for them still exist??

All the best my friends,

Jan
Glasgow/Scotland
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket All the best! Jan
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 1:31 AM
I'd like to see a cab forward if for no other reason than the novelty of it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 1:31 AM
I'd like to see a cab forward if for no other reason than the novelty of it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 12:05 PM
Trains magazine once reported that NYC's Niagara class 4-8-4 was tested against the diesels of its day, and was slightly more efficient under certain conditions. It would be interesting to see how one would stack up today, or if one could be technically updated, yet still look like a Niagara...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 12:05 PM
Trains magazine once reported that NYC's Niagara class 4-8-4 was tested against the diesels of its day, and was slightly more efficient under certain conditions. It would be interesting to see how one would stack up today, or if one could be technically updated, yet still look like a Niagara...
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Posted by SALfan on Thursday, August 7, 2003 1:49 PM
It wouldn't be built "again", but I'd like to see Ross Rowland's ACE 3000 built and tested, and some development work done on it. Very interesting concept, with powdered coal as the fuel, forklift-removable ash, and condensing technology for the waste steam (at least that's how I remember it).
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Posted by SALfan on Thursday, August 7, 2003 1:49 PM
It wouldn't be built "again", but I'd like to see Ross Rowland's ACE 3000 built and tested, and some development work done on it. Very interesting concept, with powdered coal as the fuel, forklift-removable ash, and condensing technology for the waste steam (at least that's how I remember it).
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 9:57 PM
Personally I wouls love to see either a BIG BOY or a CHALLENGER built just for there sheer size. but you will never see anything like that built in the USA again because all our manufacturing has been moved to china and mexico.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 9:57 PM
Personally I wouls love to see either a BIG BOY or a CHALLENGER built just for there sheer size. but you will never see anything like that built in the USA again because all our manufacturing has been moved to china and mexico.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 9, 2003 9:23 AM
any of the cnj camelbacks...................
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 9, 2003 9:23 AM
any of the cnj camelbacks...................
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 9, 2003 4:07 PM
I would like to see any steam loco being built today. The classes with 8 driving wheels (2 8 4, 4 8 2, 4 8 4, 2 8 2) were some of the better locos. But the Challengers and Big Boys were pretty neat.

I just love the old steam locos and try to see them "in steam" any chance I get.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 9, 2003 4:07 PM
I would like to see any steam loco being built today. The classes with 8 driving wheels (2 8 4, 4 8 2, 4 8 4, 2 8 2) were some of the better locos. But the Challengers and Big Boys were pretty neat.

I just love the old steam locos and try to see them "in steam" any chance I get.

Stay Safe and remember Look, Listen, and Live.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 5:06 PM
How about a 4-6-4 like a hudson for tourist line work. Natural gas or propane fired,5 cylinders ,3 driving at front and 2 at the rear axle.No firebox, gas burners in flues, firebox space used for two rear cylinders.Five cylinders would give very even torque to drivers and permit early shutoff for economy. Poppet valves computer controlled. Engine would be relatively polution free.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 5:06 PM
How about a 4-6-4 like a hudson for tourist line work. Natural gas or propane fired,5 cylinders ,3 driving at front and 2 at the rear axle.No firebox, gas burners in flues, firebox space used for two rear cylinders.Five cylinders would give very even torque to drivers and permit early shutoff for economy. Poppet valves computer controlled. Engine would be relatively polution free.
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Posted by prewardude on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:29 AM
I'd like to see just about any of them be built again. How about one of the Pennsy's Atlantics? They had that great prewar "vibe" to them that I like!
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Posted by prewardude on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:29 AM
I'd like to see just about any of them be built again. How about one of the Pennsy's Atlantics? They had that great prewar "vibe" to them that I like!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:07 PM
I'd like to see the Pennsy T1 rebuilt. Never got to see one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:07 PM
I'd like to see the Pennsy T1 rebuilt. Never got to see one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:09 PM
the Ultimate Steam page has an article discussing design concepts for a multi- stage steam turbine locomotive rated at 15,000 hp! I'd love to see that.....it'll never happen though, especially as the proposal calls for a nuclear reactor to heat the boiler!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:09 PM
the Ultimate Steam page has an article discussing design concepts for a multi- stage steam turbine locomotive rated at 15,000 hp! I'd love to see that.....it'll never happen though, especially as the proposal calls for a nuclear reactor to heat the boiler!
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Posted by mike157 on Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:41 PM
Better than new would be for every RR museum to bring one dead Loco back to life.
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Posted by mike157 on Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:41 PM
Better than new would be for every RR museum to bring one dead Loco back to life.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mike157

Better than new would be for every RR museum to bring one dead Loco back to life.


JUST ONE ? How about more. How about all of them. Both steam and diesel. [:)] Works for me. [:D] [:)] And then when the railroads have a power shortage . . . hummmmmmmm. What color and spice there would be. ALCO fans would be dancing in the streets. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mike157

Better than new would be for every RR museum to bring one dead Loco back to life.


JUST ONE ? How about more. How about all of them. Both steam and diesel. [:)] Works for me. [:D] [:)] And then when the railroads have a power shortage . . . hummmmmmmm. What color and spice there would be. ALCO fans would be dancing in the streets. [:)]
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Posted by Willy2 on Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:57 PM
The Union Pacific Big Boy would be my first choice but any steam locomotive would be good too. I think it would be very interesting to see a replica of the Tom Thumb too.

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Posted by Willy2 on Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:57 PM
The Union Pacific Big Boy would be my first choice but any steam locomotive would be good too. I think it would be very interesting to see a replica of the Tom Thumb too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:44 AM
I think one of the smaller (non articulated) designs of famous heritage. NYC Hudsons, Pennsy M1's, or Nickle Plate Berkshires would be amazing to see working again.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:44 AM
I think one of the smaller (non articulated) designs of famous heritage. NYC Hudsons, Pennsy M1's, or Nickle Plate Berkshires would be amazing to see working again.

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