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FALLEN FLAGS RAILROADS IN THE SOUTH

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FALLEN FLAGS RAILROADS IN THE SOUTH
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 8:38 PM
HOW COME THERE ARE NO ARTICLES ON THE RAILROADS IN THE SOUTH LIKE THE OLD NORFOLK&SOUTHERN ,CENTRAL OF GEORGIA,ACL,SBD TRAINS THAT ARE VERY RARE DISCUSSED IN THE FORUM WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POST ON THE FALLEN FLAG RAILROADS OF THE SOUTH .IT WOULD HELP SOME OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE RAILROADS.[?][?][?][?]
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FALLEN FLAGS RAILROADS IN THE SOUTH
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 8:38 PM
HOW COME THERE ARE NO ARTICLES ON THE RAILROADS IN THE SOUTH LIKE THE OLD NORFOLK&SOUTHERN ,CENTRAL OF GEORGIA,ACL,SBD TRAINS THAT ARE VERY RARE DISCUSSED IN THE FORUM WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POST ON THE FALLEN FLAG RAILROADS OF THE SOUTH .IT WOULD HELP SOME OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE RAILROADS.[?][?][?][?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 5:51 PM
Hello Tarwhell,

I'm not adversed on the lines you are talking about. I'm from Texas, and the fallen flags that I have been intrestred in are mostly local. Most people have never heard of them, or don't have any information about them. Nearly all the one's I'm intrestred in fell during the 50's, 60's, and 70's. I've found that looking for groups on Yahoo that share my intrest helps, but the best information I have found has been on the internet. I have learned so much about these fallen flags, that it just makes me want to dig more and more.. and the more I dig... the more treasure I find!!!!

My intrest are the Texas and Pacific, Missouri Pacific, Abilene Southern, Abilene Northern, and the Roscoe, Synder, and Pacific. During the last several month's I've discovered thing's I never knew... thank's to a great search engine.

Good luck on your Quest!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 5:51 PM
Hello Tarwhell,

I'm not adversed on the lines you are talking about. I'm from Texas, and the fallen flags that I have been intrestred in are mostly local. Most people have never heard of them, or don't have any information about them. Nearly all the one's I'm intrestred in fell during the 50's, 60's, and 70's. I've found that looking for groups on Yahoo that share my intrest helps, but the best information I have found has been on the internet. I have learned so much about these fallen flags, that it just makes me want to dig more and more.. and the more I dig... the more treasure I find!!!!

My intrest are the Texas and Pacific, Missouri Pacific, Abilene Southern, Abilene Northern, and the Roscoe, Synder, and Pacific. During the last several month's I've discovered thing's I never knew... thank's to a great search engine.

Good luck on your Quest!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:20 PM
I'm with you but I would prefer Frisco, Katy, Missouri Pacific and the Rock Island. The Southern used to get allot of ink back in the 70's when they ran the Crescent after Amtrak was formed. I would love to see one of those articles re-ran in Classic trains, since it's been about 30 years now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:20 PM
I'm with you but I would prefer Frisco, Katy, Missouri Pacific and the Rock Island. The Southern used to get allot of ink back in the 70's when they ran the Crescent after Amtrak was formed. I would love to see one of those articles re-ran in Classic trains, since it's been about 30 years now.
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Posted by tomwatkins on Sunday, July 13, 2003 6:58 PM
Have you considered the historical societys for the railroads you're interested in? The Southern Railway Historical Association and the L&N Railroad Historical Society, for example both publish excellent magazines about their roads. They are the two roads I'm most interested in, so I'm most familiar with them.
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Posted by tomwatkins on Sunday, July 13, 2003 6:58 PM
Have you considered the historical societys for the railroads you're interested in? The Southern Railway Historical Association and the L&N Railroad Historical Society, for example both publish excellent magazines about their roads. They are the two roads I'm most interested in, so I'm most familiar with them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:32 PM
How ya doin? I see the need for the southern fallen flags. Like one fellow said the internet can help a lot. Historical groups are good but you have to pay to join and for literature. Talking to other railfans is a good way too. Have you tried the library? I am from N.J , and Penna. and my interests are their, but, I like to read and hear about any railroad. Good luck. Bernt T.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:32 PM
How ya doin? I see the need for the southern fallen flags. Like one fellow said the internet can help a lot. Historical groups are good but you have to pay to join and for literature. Talking to other railfans is a good way too. Have you tried the library? I am from N.J , and Penna. and my interests are their, but, I like to read and hear about any railroad. Good luck. Bernt T.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:23 PM
The Yahoo group alrails (Alabamas railroads) is an excelent starting point for fallen flags in the south.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:23 PM
The Yahoo group alrails (Alabamas railroads) is an excelent starting point for fallen flags in the south.
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Posted by leighant on Friday, July 18, 2003 5:47 PM
One of the best places to look for Texas fallen flags is the Journal of Texas Shortline Railroads and Transportation. Been a while since they've had a new issue out. They've had 8 or 10 64-page books, each on a specific railroad with photos, loco and freight car rosters, prototype track plans, history, etc. Trains magazine had a great photo album on southern railroads in the late 1940s and I'm sure glad I've got a copy. I remember back in the 60s and 70s, NMRA Bulletin used to have extensive articles on non-extensive railroads, including Southern ones.
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Posted by leighant on Friday, July 18, 2003 5:47 PM
One of the best places to look for Texas fallen flags is the Journal of Texas Shortline Railroads and Transportation. Been a while since they've had a new issue out. They've had 8 or 10 64-page books, each on a specific railroad with photos, loco and freight car rosters, prototype track plans, history, etc. Trains magazine had a great photo album on southern railroads in the late 1940s and I'm sure glad I've got a copy. I remember back in the 60s and 70s, NMRA Bulletin used to have extensive articles on non-extensive railroads, including Southern ones.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:13 AM
I would like to start a website on the railroads you mentioned above. I would like to have rosters,(if at all possible complete), photos and I could put a few of my drawings on there to show color schemes.
What I would really want to have on there most of all is stories from people who knew the railroads, or even just people who wanted to share experiences. I think if I could do this, I would have a great site where everything is free, and you would not have to spend hours doing research on a particular railroad, just to find what you are looking for is available in book form, and for 25.00 you can find the answer to that one question!

What does everyone think? Anyone interested in helping please email me at dedwards@inebraska.com

I want it to be 100 percent totally free, if everyone can mind the pop-up ads we might have something here!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:13 AM
I would like to start a website on the railroads you mentioned above. I would like to have rosters,(if at all possible complete), photos and I could put a few of my drawings on there to show color schemes.
What I would really want to have on there most of all is stories from people who knew the railroads, or even just people who wanted to share experiences. I think if I could do this, I would have a great site where everything is free, and you would not have to spend hours doing research on a particular railroad, just to find what you are looking for is available in book form, and for 25.00 you can find the answer to that one question!

What does everyone think? Anyone interested in helping please email me at dedwards@inebraska.com

I want it to be 100 percent totally free, if everyone can mind the pop-up ads we might have something here!
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Posted by Ginger Valley Line on Monday, July 21, 2003 8:31 PM
The Summer 2000 issue of Classic Trains has an article about one boy's experience with the Gulf, Mobile & Ohio. I wrote it.
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Posted by Ginger Valley Line on Monday, July 21, 2003 8:31 PM
The Summer 2000 issue of Classic Trains has an article about one boy's experience with the Gulf, Mobile & Ohio. I wrote it.
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Posted by samoht on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:54 AM
how about some of the s.c. railroads hartwell,pickens,gree[:o)]nville+northern etc.
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Posted by samoht on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:54 AM
how about some of the s.c. railroads hartwell,pickens,gree[:o)]nville+northern etc.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:14 AM
The magazines do publish articles on Southern roads, but not as many as on the ones up north and out west. This is probably because there aren't as many photographs of the fallen flag era down here. But there are plenty of web sites on Southern railroads. Just type the name of your road into the google.com search box and sit back and enjoy!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:14 AM
The magazines do publish articles on Southern roads, but not as many as on the ones up north and out west. This is probably because there aren't as many photographs of the fallen flag era down here. But there are plenty of web sites on Southern railroads. Just type the name of your road into the google.com search box and sit back and enjoy!
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Posted by louisnash on Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:00 PM
Here are a couple of websites that I have found to find info. on southern RR's:

www.railfan.net
www.rr.fallenflags.org

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Posted by louisnash on Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:00 PM
Here are a couple of websites that I have found to find info. on southern RR's:

www.railfan.net
www.rr.fallenflags.org

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Posted by louisnash on Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:04 PM
You may also go to the following address to get some of the L&N, C&O, Southern,etc.:

www.nkyviews.com

It is a website dedicated to the areas of Northern KY in the old days.

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Posted by louisnash on Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:04 PM
You may also go to the following address to get some of the L&N, C&O, Southern,etc.:

www.nkyviews.com

It is a website dedicated to the areas of Northern KY in the old days.

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Posted by twopdhart on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:15 AM
All very interesting. My personal interest is the Muskogee Roads -- the Midland Valley; Kansas, Oklahoma & Gulf; and Oklahoma City-Ada-Atoka. The MV and KO&G went to the MoPac in the 1960s while the Santa Fe go the OC-A-A. Most of the track is gone now except for short sections, such as a piece of the MV the Union Pacific uses in Tulsa to reach a paper mill.

I know of only one book done on them, a review of the Midland Valley published in the mid '90s. Anybody know of any other sources of info on these lines?
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Posted by twopdhart on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:15 AM
All very interesting. My personal interest is the Muskogee Roads -- the Midland Valley; Kansas, Oklahoma & Gulf; and Oklahoma City-Ada-Atoka. The MV and KO&G went to the MoPac in the 1960s while the Santa Fe go the OC-A-A. Most of the track is gone now except for short sections, such as a piece of the MV the Union Pacific uses in Tulsa to reach a paper mill.

I know of only one book done on them, a review of the Midland Valley published in the mid '90s. Anybody know of any other sources of info on these lines?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 4:09 PM
I was born in Chattanooga, TN. My favorite railroads were the Nashville, Chattanooga and St. \Louis(taken over in 1957 by the Louisville and Nashville). So add L&N to the list of favorites. Also, the Southern Railroad came through my home town. I now live in Atlanta and ride the Crescent whenever possible.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 4:09 PM
I was born in Chattanooga, TN. My favorite railroads were the Nashville, Chattanooga and St. \Louis(taken over in 1957 by the Louisville and Nashville). So add L&N to the list of favorites. Also, the Southern Railroad came through my home town. I now live in Atlanta and ride the Crescent whenever possible.

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