What to do with an Original Watercolor Painting "Niagra 6000 4-8-4" by Howard Fogg

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What to do with an Original Watercolor Painting "Niagra 6000 4-8-4" by Howard Fogg
Posted by KathysCountryCorner on Thursday, August 08, 2019 11:59 AM

I believe that I just found the original watercolor painting by Howard Fogg "Niagra 6000 4-8-4" or also known in detail as, "Niagara Type 4-8-4 Locomotive, Class S-1-b, on New York Central Train No. 50 -- "The Empire State Express", in the Highlands of the Hudson, 1948 from original painting by Howard Fogg". I read another thread that recommended selling it on eBay but do not know whether I should do that or something else. Can someone help with ideas and what to start the bid at? The only thread I could find was over 15 years ago. Thanks.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:28 PM

Can you post photos?  There are certain qualities to watercolor paper that a print should lack.  If there's texture, and the paper is heavy, it's most likely an original.  It could also have an unfinished look around the edges that a matte may be hiding.  Here's a watercolor doodle of mine:

This one's more "finished" looking:

Becky

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Posted by KathysCountryCorner on Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:26 PM

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:45 PM

My God Becky those paintings of yours are fantastic! 

Love that Grand Trunk steamer!  And that's switch-stand's just a doodle?  Could have fooled me!

Bravo!  

Gentlemen, what do the rest of you think?

 

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, August 08, 2019 11:00 PM

I luv them both. Great stuff Penny.

As to the Kathys Country Corner-- Very nice! In the original post the 7 comments previous to yours contain all the correct advise. Those members are no longer with us, haven't seen them in years. 

Get it appraised properly and promptly. 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, August 09, 2019 12:56 AM

I know this:  I'll put in a bid at the appraised value.

Not sure I know who to go to as an 'expert' in Fogg paintings, but you want someone who knows the rail enthusiast category, not a generalist who gets his 'strange inheritance' valuations off services like Worthpoint.  Not that a search on those services won't get you into the 'ballpark' of what these will sell for.

Resist any offers to sell this on consignment unless it's with a known, reputable seller with a clientele known to be interested.

Once it is appraised as genuine, you could advertise it in Trains or similar magazines, or in some of the specialist lists (I believe the New York Central System historical society, NYCSHS, has a particular day of the week, as I recall Friday, that you can post items for sale -- they are perhaps the likeliest place to find the most enthusiastic potential owner!)

If you are set up to scan an image with watermark or other protection, it would be nice to see it here at large scale.  You need to have it 'hosted' with an assigned URL -- the easiest way to do that is with one of the online photo sites like Flickr or Imgur.

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Posted by KathysCountryCorner on Friday, August 09, 2019 6:45 AM

Howard Fogg Painting

Howard Fogg Painting

Howard Fogg Painting

It's not in the best condition but it is the original still, I believe. Let me know what you all think.

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Posted by KathysCountryCorner on Friday, August 09, 2019 7:05 AM

I have posted two sets of photos. Hopefully they only use the watermark ones, although the watermark is solid. The painting is not in the best condition and I know that it will need to be preserved and possibly restored but I've been told that the ultimate buyer will want to have their own professional do the restoring and that I should not try to do anything with it. 

Thanks for all the great advise and the wonderful paintings. Gorgeous!!! Hopefully you will see the painting soon.

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Posted by KathysCountryCorner on Friday, August 09, 2019 9:30 AM

http://www.silogic.com/trains/P&LE%20Postcards%20by%20Howard%20Fogg.html

(You have to scroll down a ways and it shows this piece and gives the info I've already provided)

http://foggprints.com/list_full.html

(this site lists all known Howard Fogg prints for sale. This one is under "N" for Niagra)

I've noticed something, maybe correct - maybe not...Fogg only made two print sizes and never two of the same size. Also all the prints I've seen either have a decent amount of the original painting cut off or it is signed just "Fogg~". 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, August 09, 2019 7:14 PM

That looks like the real deal allright.  Try contacting the Center for Railroad Photography and Art at http://www.railphoto-art.org/.  They should be able to help you get the most out of selling if that's what you decide to do.

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