Third Avenue Lightweight Streetcars

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 5:54 AM

There are videos of the 'last days' of the 2nd and 3rd Avenue Els (narrated by Roger Arcara iianm) that clearly show the bridges and track arrangements with discussion (and film!) of operations across them.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 9:26 PM

Are those videos on line?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:07 PM

Yes, definitely, on U-Tube.   Google Second and Third Avenue Elevateds, and you will reach it.   Very good, except too much footage on scrapping and disposing of old cars.  Also one minior error.  The streetcar undr the 2nd Avenue and 42nd Street Station he calls a 42nd Street crosstowno is clearly a double-end Peter Witt 551-series lightweight assigned only to the Broadway - 42nd Street Line.  The 42nd St. Crosstown was run almost entirely by curved-side convertables with the occasional Sunday-only appearance of end-door 626-series lightweights borrowed from the 59th Street crosstown.

Also the old subway cars used as elevated express trains were composites, not mostly wood.  We called them The Comoposites.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, October 07, 2018 7:34 AM

As an experiment, one of the aluminum bodied 551-600 Brodway - 42nd Street "Huffliners" was left mainly unpainted aliluminum with red numbers and trim.  After some months it was painted creamy yellow and red like the oeathers.  I copied this photo 71 years ago from the companies files.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 9:03 AM

Here we are at the north end of the West Farms carhouse, August 1948, with 194 the last car on the Boston Road line,  The elevated structure is that use by the 2 and 5.  The car saw four more years of service in Yonkers, until 1952.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 8:22 PM

Dave, it does not look like the photo made it into your last post.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:09 PM

Strange.  Should be able to correct this tomorrow with a wide-band server.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, October 11, 2018 2:33 AM

corrected by this post with another from the same day:

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, October 14, 2018 4:51 AM

Correction to previous posts. 194 was not the last car and was at the north upper level portal on Southern Bkvd of the West Farms car-house.  196, the last car, was photographed inside on the lower level, back entrnce.  Both cars saw addional service in Yonkers replacing 301-400 series cars that needed overhauling.

In the autumn 1947 the Columbia Grammar Prep Football team played a game (Bronx Highschool of Science?) on the public park field across 161st Street from Yankee Stadium; and, while photographing football actifities, I did manage a passing photo of 130, formerly a conduit car for the "T"and "K" Manahttan routes, but transfered to the Bronx with troilley pole in March 1947.  I think it was sold to someplace in Indua in 1948.  The Elevated structure in the background is here on River Street, merges into Jerome Avenue, behind me here, just before the 167th Street Station.  The "4" is the line today.  The streetcar line is the 161st-163rd  Street Crosstown.

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