Choose one of the following steamers:
a) RDG #2101 4-8-4
b) C&O #490 4-6-4
c) C&O #2716 2-8-4
d) C&O #614 4-8-4
e) N&W #611 4-8-4
f) N&W #1218 2-6-6-4
g) SR #4501 2-8-2
h) GN #2584 4-8-4
i) UP #5511 2-10-2
j) UP #4014 4-8-8-4 (it´s said to be in best condition of all surviving Big Boys)
k) T&P #610 2-10-4
l) SP #4460 4-8-4
m) SP #5021 4-10-2
n) SP #4294 4-8-8-2
The only real answer here is "all of the above". Any time there is a chance for a major sized, mainline steam locomotive to be restored to service is a plus for everybody. Small locomotives are fine specimans of the art and are excellent for branch line tourist operations...an engine many can get thier heads around...but a mainline brute stretching them out at 65+ on any Class 1's trackage is the best imagination catcher there is for railroad's PR.
My one gripe is about those missing above. For one, NKP 759 at Steamtown. Love to see that double headed with 765, for instance. I really don't know if 759 is good enough to be restored, but, don't see any restricitons in the question. For that matter, there's a Big Boy and a few others at Steamtown that may or may not be candidates. And what's at PA State Railroad Museuem? Anything interesting? Gotta be more from the East represented on the list.
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De Luxe Choose one of the following steamers:
Why limit the choices? There's a whole WORLD out there.
My personal choice would be Kiso Rintetsu #1 (Baldwin 0-4-2T)
Chuck
All of the above but especially SR 4501
My choice would be the Royal Hudson running out of the Vancouver BC area, this train used to be owned by the Province of BC.
For a number of years this train ran from North Vancouver to Squamish on the BCR trackage during the summer season. Needless to say it was a great tourist attraction. The operation was shut down by the present Liberal provincial government. Too bad, it is sadly missed.
No doubt...........T&P 610!!!!! What a great sounding loco and watching those drivers at about 50 was awesome!!
Then ANY S-160, especially the 2628 with the Franklin poppet valve gear.
Roger Huber
I too will go with the T&P 610
Tom Cox
611
N & W 611. ABSOLUTELY! The most beautifull locomotive in the WORLD.
Mike C.
I understand that there are at least two Missabe Yellowstones in very good museum condition. That would be nice.
Also, there are several SP locos that ARE in running condition, however UP does not let them run on ex-SP rails because of what they call "Insurance" problems (yah, RIGHT! ). So in order for them to run anywhere near the State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, they have to be run on BNSF trackage (thank you, BNSF ).
So, if UP would get their head out of their Nether Parts and start acting like a railroad that is interested in the history of the lines it gobbled up, it would be nice to see 4-8-8-2 #4294 back on the rails again. We here in Northern California do NOT have a "UP Heritage". It's a Johnny-Come-Lately and its' Biggest Bull On The Block attitude has NOT endeared it to a lot of people out here.
Ease up, UP, and let us have our SP steam back again.
Tom
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
Hey, hey, hey, calm down. At least the UP and the CP have steam programs and put cash on the line to keep their steam operable.
My personal choice would also be N&W J1 4-8-4 611, but very close runner ups would be the K-4 now understoration and the green Southern 4-6-2 at the Smithsonian.
UP is very clear about their policy that they do not let foreign steam on their tracks. Agree with it or not, there is no mystery or excuses about insurance. That being said, UP has been very generous about letting 4449 ferry across their trackage to get to its next excursion.
So why don't you cut them some slack? After all--as has already been pointed out--UP spends big dollars on their own steam program. They don't have to do that you know ...
twhiteI understand that there are at least two Missabe Yellowstones in very good museum condition. That would be nice. Also, there are several SP locos that ARE in running condition, however UP does not let them run on ex-SP rails because of what they call "Insurance" problems (yah, RIGHT! ). So in order for them to run anywhere near the State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, they have to be run on BNSF trackage (thank you, BNSF ). So, if UP would get their head out of their Nether Parts and start acting like a railroad that is interested in the history of the lines it gobbled up, it would be nice to see 4-8-8-2 #4294 back on the rails again. We here in Northern California do NOT have a "UP Heritage". It's a Johnny-Come-Lately and its' Biggest Bull On The Block attitude has NOT endeared it to a lot of people out here. Ease up, UP, and let us have our SP steam back again. Tom
don7My choice would be the Royal Hudson running out of the Vancouver BC area, this train used to be owned by the Province of BC. For a number of years this train ran from North Vancouver to Squamish on the BCR trackage during the summer season. Needless to say it was a great tourist attraction. The operation was shut down by the present Liberal provincial government. Too bad, it is sadly missed.
2860 is back in running condition and has been out on two excursions (the most recent one in May 09). Rumour has it there will be a North Van-Squamish run this fall, but I haven't heard any firm plans.
Of course, 3716 (2-8-0 that BC Rail used as a sub for 2860) is also still in service and can be found plying the rails of the Kettle Valley Steam Railway in Summerland, BC five days per week.
I would like to see PRR 1361. It would be awesome seeing a K4s in service.
Of the engines on that list,I would pick the SP 4460.I would love to see that unit doubleheading with 4449 over the Tehachapis!
As a kid I can still remember seeing the Daylight for the first time. The tracks were right behind our house. But having traveled around and being an old street rodder and custom car builder, the Mallard at 126 mph would be nice but the Royal Highlander in red as in the York museum is just plane out of this world. They have it sitting next to a 36 Chrysler as in art deco style. It has been made by Hornby for the England market only with a total of 1500 made. After a long search mine is #1480.
lee/sheridan
n sp cab forward
You must have forgotten that SP itself was hardkly "steam friendly." 4449 very seldom got to run.
4014 is far from the best of the surviving 4-8-8-4's. That honor goes to UP 4023.
Reading 2101
hi, my vote is for GREAT NORTHERN 4-8-4#2584 as another classic northern type never seen in action by the majority of us
How about the C&O Allegheny that is in Henry Ford Muesem?
It has been under cover since it steamed into Dearborn in the 1950's. Should be better restore than others that have been outdoors etc.
Would not need to doublehead a 2-6-6-6. Talk about a grand sight.
JG Tyler, Chief Broompusher, Huron & Virginian Ry.
Since 2101 was severely damaged in a fire, why not her sister 2102? I believe it's being stored in Port Clinton,PA and it was running in the not too distant past. I would only ask to return the whistle that was being used in the 70's.
(1) I would most like to see us emulate the English and produce a brand-new replica New York Central J3 Hudson, sans streamlined shroud. It would serve Al Perlman right !!
Money realities say that best we can hope for is one of the two NYC Mohawks extant. They look like a Hudson and could be brought back much faster.
(2) How about one of the two existing camelbacks - DL&W 952 at St. Louis or CNJ 592 at Baltimore?
It wouls seem just as simple as restoring another 4-8-4. Maybe a new boiler would be needed.
Dream on !!!
James E. Bradley
I would like to see the Strasburg Railroad finish restoring the old Reading #1187 Camalback 0-4-0 that they have. Being it is the last of her kind around it would be nice to see her running but if not at least place her across the street in the PRR Railroad Museum.
All of the above and every steamer ever made which iknow is impossible.
My favorite would be IC 2500
I amy have replied earlier, but certainly the PRR K4, the New Yor Central Mowhawk, and definitely the N&W J. But for the Brits, Pendeness Castle, John Greton's locomotive and the fastest of Great Western steam. A modern high-speed 4-6-0.
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