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What steam loco would you like to see back in excursion service?

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What steam loco would you like to see back in excursion service?
Posted by De Luxe on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:59 AM

Choose one of the following steamers:

a) RDG #2101 4-8-4

b) C&O #490 4-6-4

c) C&O #2716 2-8-4

d) C&O #614 4-8-4

e) N&W #611 4-8-4

f) N&W #1218 2-6-6-4

g) SR #4501 2-8-2

h) GN #2584 4-8-4

i) UP #5511 2-10-2

j) UP #4014 4-8-8-4 (it´s said to be in best condition of all surviving Big Boys)

k) T&P #610 2-10-4

l) SP #4460 4-8-4

m) SP #5021 4-10-2

n) SP #4294 4-8-8-2

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:18 AM

The only real answer here is "all of the above".  Any time there is a chance for a major sized, mainline steam locomotive to be restored to service is a plus for everybody.  Small locomotives are fine specimans of the art and are excellent for branch line tourist operations...an engine many can get thier heads around...but a mainline brute stretching them out at 65+ on any Class 1's trackage is the best imagination catcher there is for railroad's PR.

My one gripe is about those missing above.  For one, NKP 759 at Steamtown.  Love to see that double headed with 765, for instance.  I really don't know if 759 is good enough to be restored, but, don't see any restricitons in the question.  For that matter, there's a Big Boy and a few others at Steamtown that may or may not be candidates.  And what's at PA State Railroad Museuem?  Anything interesting?  Gotta be more from the East represented on the list.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:31 PM

De Luxe

Choose one of the following steamers:

Why limit the choices?  There's a whole WORLD out there.

My personal choice would be Kiso Rintetsu #1 (Baldwin 0-4-2T)

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Posted by carknocker1 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:09 PM

All of the above but especially SR 4501

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Posted by don7 on Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:54 PM

My choice would be the Royal Hudson running out of the Vancouver BC area, this train used to be owned by the Province of BC.

For a number of years this train ran from North Vancouver to Squamish on the BCR trackage during the summer season. Needless to say it was a great tourist attraction. The operation was shut down by the present Liberal provincial government. Too bad, it is sadly missed.

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Posted by oldline1 on Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:32 PM

No doubt...........T&P 610!!!!! What a great sounding loco and watching those drivers at about 50 was awesome!!

Then ANY S-160, especially the 2628 with the Franklin poppet valve gear.

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Posted by tcox009 on Friday, August 14, 2009 9:31 AM

I too will go with the T&P 610

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, August 14, 2009 5:03 PM

611

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Posted by wobblinwheel on Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:33 PM

N & W 611. ABSOLUTELY! The most beautifull locomotive in the WORLD.

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:26 PM

I understand that there are at least two Missabe Yellowstones in very good museum condition.  That would be nice. 

Also, there are several SP locos that ARE in running condition, however UP does not let them run on ex-SP rails because of what they call "Insurance" problems (yah, RIGHT! Banged Head).  So in order for them to run anywhere near the State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, they have to be run on BNSF trackage (thank you, BNSF Bow). 

So, if UP would get their head out of their Nether Parts and start acting like a railroad that is interested in the history of the lines it gobbled up, it would be nice to see 4-8-8-2 #4294 back on the rails again.  We here in Northern California do NOT have a "UP Heritage".  It's a Johnny-Come-Lately and its' Biggest Bull On The Block attitude has NOT endeared it to a lot of people out here. 

Ease up, UP, and let us have our SP steam back again. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, August 17, 2009 5:08 AM

Hey, hey, hey, calm down.   At least the UP and the CP have steam programs and put cash on the line to keep their steam operable.

 

My personal choice would also be N&W J1 4-8-4 611, but very close runner ups would be the K-4 now understoration and the green Southern 4-6-2 at the Smithsonian.

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Posted by cprted on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:35 PM

UP is very clear about their policy that they do not let foreign steam on their tracks.  Agree with it or not, there is no mystery or excuses about insurance.  That being said, UP has been very generous about letting 4449 ferry across their trackage to get to its next excursion.

So why don't you cut them some slack?  After all--as has already been pointed out--UP spends big dollars on their own steam program.  They don't have to do that you know ...

twhite

I understand that there are at least two Missabe Yellowstones in very good museum condition.  That would be nice. 

Also, there are several SP locos that ARE in running condition, however UP does not let them run on ex-SP rails because of what they call "Insurance" problems (yah, RIGHT! Banged Head).  So in order for them to run anywhere near the State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, they have to be run on BNSF trackage (thank you, BNSF Bow). 

So, if UP would get their head out of their Nether Parts and start acting like a railroad that is interested in the history of the lines it gobbled up, it would be nice to see 4-8-8-2 #4294 back on the rails again.  We here in Northern California do NOT have a "UP Heritage".  It's a Johnny-Come-Lately and its' Biggest Bull On The Block attitude has NOT endeared it to a lot of people out here. 

Ease up, UP, and let us have our SP steam back again. 

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Posted by cprted on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:43 PM

don7

My choice would be the Royal Hudson running out of the Vancouver BC area, this train used to be owned by the Province of BC.

For a number of years this train ran from North Vancouver to Squamish on the BCR trackage during the summer season. Needless to say it was a great tourist attraction. The operation was shut down by the present Liberal provincial government. Too bad, it is sadly missed.

 

2860 is back in running condition and has been out on two excursions (the most recent one in May 09).  Rumour has it there will be a North Van-Squamish run this fall, but I haven't heard any firm plans.

 Of course, 3716 (2-8-0 that BC Rail used as a sub for 2860) is also still in service and can be found plying the rails of the Kettle Valley Steam Railway in Summerland, BC five days per week.

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:41 AM
ANY steam loco would be fine with me! I love 'em all. And sadly, there are very few that I've had the opportunity to see in operation. But it would be truly awesome to see the Big Boy come back to life.
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Posted by pennsylvaniabill on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:15 PM
I've been waiting for years for the PRR K-4 to get finished in Altoona, PA, and the Strasburg RailRoad in Lancaster, PA owns an ex Reading 0-4-0 cammelback that I would love to see running as well. Oh, and the RR Museum of PA (next-door to Strasburg) has a bunch I'd like to see; like the M1b 4-8-2 mountain, the famous Lindberg engine, the John Bull replica, the V&T 2-6-0, etc., and I would love to see some of the really old loco's in the B&O rr museum running; The bigger, the better, and the more primitive, the more interesting, I say... fix 'em and get 'em all running!!!
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Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, August 31, 2009 10:52 PM

I would like to see PRR 1361. It would be awesome seeing a K4s in service.

Of the engines on that list,I would pick the SP 4460.I would love to see that unit doubleheading with 4449 over the Tehachapis!

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Posted by leesheridan on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 5:14 PM

As a kid I can still remember seeing the Daylight for the first time. The tracks were right behind our house. But having traveled around and being an old street rodder and custom car builder, the Mallard at 126 mph would be nice but the Royal Highlander in red as in the York museum is just plane out of this world. They have it sitting next to a 36 Chrysler as in art deco style. It has been made by Hornby for the England market only with a total of 1500 made. After a long search mine is #1480.

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Posted by OCTrains on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 5:56 PM
611 by far!
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Posted by locoeddy on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:28 PM

n sp cab forward

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Posted by Johnca51 on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:37 PM
The UP #4014 4-8-8-4 as this loco totally fascinates me in terms of it's awesome size and capabilities. it is testament to the brilliant technology at the time they were produced. It would certainly be the icing on the cake if I were able to stand alongside the track and see one of these majestic giants thunder past a full steam. I reckon that I would even consider making a trip from Downunder Australia to have the opportunity to witness it.
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Posted by emerilcat on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:48 PM

You must have forgotten that SP itself was hardkly "steam friendly."  4449 very seldom got to run.

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Posted by emerilcat on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:49 PM

4014 is far from the best of the surviving 4-8-8-4's.  That honor goes to UP 4023.

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Posted by train_nut02 on Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:55 AM

Reading 2101

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Posted by 4447SPGS4 on Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:09 AM

hi, my  vote is for GREAT NORTHERN 4-8-4#2584 as another classic northern type never seen in action  by the majority  of  us

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Posted by Huron&VirginianRy on Thursday, September 3, 2009 3:55 PM

How about the C&O Allegheny that is in Henry Ford Muesem?

It has been under cover since it steamed into Dearborn in the 1950's.  Should be better restore than others that have been outdoors etc. 

Would not need to doublehead a 2-6-6-6.  Talk about a grand sight.

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Posted by steamfanatic on Thursday, September 3, 2009 4:16 PM

Since 2101 was severely damaged in a fire, why not her sister 2102?  I believe it's being stored in Port Clinton,PA and it was running in the not too distant past.  I would only ask to return the whistle that was being used in the 70's.

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Posted by jamesedwbradley on Friday, September 4, 2009 10:32 PM

(1)  I would most like to see us emulate the English and produce a brand-new replica New York Central J3 Hudson, sans streamlined shroud.  It would serve Al Perlman right !! 

Money realities say that best we can hope for is one of the two  NYC Mohawks extant.  They look like a Hudson and could be brought back much faster.

 (2)  How about one of the two existing camelbacks - DL&W 952 at St. Louis or CNJ 592 at Baltimore?

   It wouls seem just as simple as restoring another 4-8-4.   Maybe a new boiler would be needed. 

 

Dream on  !!!

 

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Posted by PhilaKnight on Monday, September 14, 2009 10:12 AM

I would like to see the Strasburg Railroad finish restoring the old Reading #1187 Camalback 0-4-0 that they have. Being it is the last of her kind around it would be nice to see her running but if not at least place her across the street in the PRR Railroad Museum.

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Posted by waltersrails on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:58 PM

All of the above and every steamer ever made which iknow is impossible.

My favorite would be IC 2500

I like NS but CSX has the B&O.
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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, October 1, 2009 9:52 AM

I amy have replied earlier, but certainly the PRR K4, the New Yor Central Mowhawk, and definitely the N&W J.    But for the Brits, Pendeness Castle, John Greton's locomotive and the fastest of Great Western steam.   A modern high-speed 4-6-0.

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