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New York Central Question
Posted by choochin3 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:40 PM

Hello,

When did the New York Central Lines become the New York Central System?

Thanks,

Carl T. 

 

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Posted by RRCharlie on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:10 PM

Carl;

In the book, "New York Central System Gone But Not Forgotten", by H.F.Cavanaugh, published by N.J. International, Inc, in 1983, "On July 1, 1935,the New York Central Lines became known as the New York Central System."

I haven't had time to check some of my other NYC books, but I have a vague recollection that steam engine tenders on the lines like the Big Four and Michigan Central were lettered New York Central System. I'll see if I can find that caption later this week.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:22 PM

That 1935 date sounds pretty good.  My January 1930 Official Guide shows The New York Central Lines and the February 1938 Guide shows The New York Central System,  Don't have anything in between.

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Posted by choochin3 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:01 PM

Thanks Guys,

I have allways wondered when the name change took place.

Do you know why the NYC changed from Lines to System?

 

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Posted by RRCharlie on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:09 PM

Haven't a clue!! Maybe the same reason some companies changed their names from Brand X Railroad to Brand X railway when there was a corporate reorganization or some sort of buy out.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:06 AM

Comparing the entries in the Guide prior to being a 'System", each part was treated as a separate line; there was a section for the Big Four Line, The Boston and Albany Line, Michigan Central Line, Nickle Plate Line, West Shore Line, etc. 

Other lines were sort of that way, too.  But there was a trend to "only one ticket" to ride the whole system.  

My 1938 Guide shows an 'integrated' New York Central: a System instead of a bunch of lines controlled at the top by an interlocking board of directors.

Just my opinion.

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Posted by cnwfan51 on Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:09 AM

My Great Uncle who worked for the New York Central and later Penn Central said the change took place before he hired on with them,But the rumor was that it was a change of the tax laws  and the incorperation of the Michigan Centrat and the P&LE Railroad under the New York Central   But dont  quapte me CNW FOREVER   Larry

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Posted by tegemu on Saturday, December 1, 2007 7:23 AM
My Brother who started on the New York Central in 1939, said that New York Central referred to the original railroed and New York Central System referred to any of the acquired railroads, like the P&LE.

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