Flintlock76That's a great shot!
Wonder how long it will take Dave Klemperer to note what is so very wrong with that shot! [That's the crApple Computer gay-engineer automatic background correction if something already correct before they messed with it; I'd never have guessed I'd gotten his name wrong. And after all the times I've typed it for the algorithm, too!]
... and a pity the car in the background couldn't have been preserved.
Klepper.
And why would David find anything wrong with it? The most he'd correct is the caption. Maybe. Possibly.
And I concur about that old car in the weeds on the right of the picture. Looks like a Stillwell, but it's a little hard to be sure.
Hint:
Late add on
You knew this was coming. Let's give the guy his 15 minutes of fame.
Well me lads, if that slide's been flipped it's a little tough to tell, the numbers under the headlights are a bit indistinct, and get more so when I enlarge the photo. I see there's some disagreement in the comments section on the site where the slide's been originally posted as to whether it's been flipped or not.
I've never heard of David Klemperer. I wonder if he's related to Otto and Werner?
Flintlock76Well me lads, if that slide's been flipped it's a little tough to tell, the numbers under the headlights are a bit indistinct, and get more so when I enlarge the photo. I see there's some disagreement in the comments section on the site where the slide's been originally posted as to whether it's been flipped or not.
My guess is that the original photo I linked to is flipped, and is correct in MiningMan's post. The yard is oriented N-S, and the engine service area is on the west (note lead going toward water tower). In both photos the shadowes are on the that (west) side, so it is an AM shot. In the second photo, the trains would be lined up facing south, ready to back up to the station for the morning commute. Also that view shows the town to the north, in the correct orientation.
In the original pic, the hinges of the smokebox doors appear on the right side of the doors, which is wrong. Also the front couplers on each engine look backwards, and the number on the second engine looks readable enough.
Flintlock76I've never heard of David Klemperer.
Wonder if he's a railfan...
MiningmanP.R.R. Station in New York Has Fluorescent American Flag
Look at p.13 of "Ed Nowak's New York Central", showing GCT with both Sunday's and a monster 48-star flag in late April 1954. Be interesting to see who had the flag and who had the flag envy...
Pier 29
Part 2
Excerpt from Border Line by William L. Rohde (Aug. 1947 Railroad Magazine)
The traffic manager gave his final order, "route these via the CV," closed his little red book and watched six cartons of fine briar pipes receive an address stencil and waybill to Chicago. A few minutes later a company truck backed up to the loading platform and the cartons were loaded with many others into the one-ton body. The steel doors were secured with a padlock ...and six cartons were safely originated on the Central Vermont Railway at New York.
Next stop is Pier 29, East River, almost at the southern tip of Manhattan Island, facing New York harbor.
The pier is a typical wood-shelter dock, with an agent's office at the landward end and company offices upstairs occupied by the Central Vermont Terminal and the Central Vermont Transportation Company. To the left and right are other piers, where the booms of Liberty ships and several larger cargo vessels are constantly working cargo.
Through the gloomy, musty scented freight shed our little shipment moves with hundreds of others into the belly of a small ship painted funereal black. There is enough LCL and carload freight in break-bulk lots to fill one ship every day, and enough inbound traffic to warrant the arrival of a sister ship each morning.
The Central Vermont Transportation Company operates three of these steamers, one each way to New London, Connecticut, from New York every night. The third vessel is held in reserve and used as an extra or repair substitute.
Now our shipment moves out on Long Island Sound, eastward to Chicago. At 5:30 a.m. it leaves New London on CV train 491, and begins to cross Canada south of Montreal about 8 a.m, the following morning. Still not much nearer its destination, it turns west and south until it reaches the United States again. At 2 a.m. on the third day it arrives in Chicago.... This is excellent time for a journey which began the wrong way by water from New York, then moved north over single track from New London, via double iron across the B&M and along the CV's main line into Canada.
In Photo 6 of Miningman's post of 12:58 AM (Isn't that past your bedtime Vince?) there's an absolutely gorgeous ship heading north on the East River.
White-hulled and single-stacked, I'm not sure if it's a large yacht or a passenger ship, but it looks like it's "making it's number" with signal flags and also flying the "Stars and Stripes."
I don't know who she is, but what a beautiful ship!
Yeah, she's a beauty alright. 1908. Must have had a history to it. Long and sleek, looks like not a thing is out of order. Maybe we will get lucky and someone has information.
Stunning pictures, so much to study.
The USS Wyoming's round trip to Brooklyn Navy Yard
https://cdn.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/11000/11041v.jpg
https://cdn.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/11000/11042v.jpg
Young Jimmy Carter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wyoming_(BB-32)
Boxcars, Gons, Barges, .. The way it used to be
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/view-from-hoboken-new-jersey-to-midtown-new-york-city-1964-picture-id513638705?s=2048x2048
Two good shots!
I guess in the first one those airplanes are waiting for King Kong to show up?
The second, the Hoboken / Weehawken yards and piers. All gone now.
Must have been quite a sight in its time.
All those boxcars and all the different roads with their logos. Any model railroader, ahem, of Classic vintage, has them on the layout. Not a speck of graffiti allowed back then. Too bad we lost everything we see railroad wise. West Point Route, NYC Earlybird, Grand Trunk Western, ACL, SAL, New Haven and on and on.
Miningman Not a speck of graffiti allowed back then.
No kidding! That was back in the days when if a railroad "bull" caught you in the yard without permission to be there you'd get your head busted, maybe not all the time but certainly if he was having a bad day. And no questions were asked.
Sometimes I wonder, were the old-timers more brutal, or more wiser and more realistic judges of human nature than we? Interesting to speculate on.
Newly elevated 11th Ave. over the 30th Street Yard, looking north, descending under the High Line at the bottom of the picture.
http://dcmny.org/adore-djatoka/resolver?url_ver=Z39.88-2004&svc_id=info%3Alanl-repo/svc/getRegion&svc_val_fmt=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajpeg2000&svc.format=image/jpeg&rft_id=http%3A//dcmny.org/islandora/object/cuny34thstreet%253A936/datastream/JP2/view%3Ftoken%3Db4fe921370424d3d1d94b625b1f8ee1b72b2aff67be97b339d1ed1c246acabc8&svc.region=0%2C0%2C1155%2C1423
Mike added the typed in identification
scilover-- Thank you. I see this is your first comment. Hope you stick with us and join in.
The Classic Trains Forum certainty highlights the transformative nature of railroading and society over the years. Technology plays the leading role.
Here is my effort to correct the Yorktown Heights photo. It is from a later era than my chilidhood judging by the clerisdtory roof cars, which would not have been available when I was young, but would be available with the massive lightwieght order in the post WWII era.
And Otto Klemperer was a great orchestral and choral conductor.
A bit better color correction:
9th Ave. El
Guess the Albert A Volk company was demolishing that piece of the El.
timzGuess the Albert A Volk company was demolishing that piece of the El.
Mike sends this; Titled "Right and Wrong". ( don't shoot the messenger)
Posted by timz on Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:30 AM
http://dcmny.org/islandora/object/photosnycbeyond%3A39609/datastream/OBJ/view
http://dcmny.org/islandora/object/photosnycbeyond%3A39619/datastream/OBJ/view
Posted by Overmod on Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:45 PM
More likely they're advertising their services as builders at a time considerable development was going on in New York. Someone with patience and a city directory can confirm that the 'Volk' on the sign to the left is an office of the company.
across the Hudson
Wonderful. Also this just came in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5COMjqDULX4
Thanks for that video David! What a time machine! The Public Service trolleys, the cars, even a Public Service bus puts in a appearance.
What more could anyone ask?
Don't forget the brief appearance of a West Shore NYCentral psssenger train.
But just think: Scenes on the Newark Subway could be recreated today with modern light rail cars.
And Hudson - Bergan Light Rail now serves many of neighborhoods pictured as well.
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