These two Siemens rail car models appear to be similar but are made for two different owners. Does anyone know how they are similar and yet different? A Canadian friend just swoons over her recent rips in Vantage cars between Montreal and Ottawa.
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"Vantage" and "Venture" do sound somewhat similar.
corpo.viarail.ca/en/projects-infrastructure/train-fleet/corridor-fleet
(It would have been quicker to Google it, but you needed to know the answer before you could...)
Ah. Well that's an iron horse of a different color. For all intents and purposes all Venture production and preproduction shells are the same over the run of the past seven years. The outfitting of the shell is dependent on the customer. As one of my handlers told me years ago when I was on the shop floor, "We will build whatever the customer asks for." Some cars have only two exterior doors so the hole for the unused door is blanked over. Some have high density seating which leaves some seats not aligned with a window. The most pronounced derivation is the cab car which is still the same shell but with a Charger cab spliced into one end.
D.CarletonAh. Well that's an iron horse of a different color. For all intents and purposes all Venture production and preproduction shells are the same over the run of the past seven years. The outfitting of the shell is dependent on the customer. As one of my handlers told me years ago when I was on the shop floor, "We will build whatever the customer asks for." Some cars have only two exterior doors so the hole for the unused door is blanked over. Some have high density seating which leaves some seats not aligned with a window. The most pronounced derivation is the cab car which is still the same shell but with a Charger cab spliced into one end.
Not Ford's - we will make it any color you want, so long as it is BLACK!
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My deepest apologies!! Those VIA Rail cars are Venture-branded and not Vantage. I must have misunderstood my source. The AMTRAK cars are Airo by Siemens.
Warren JMy deepest apologies!! Those VIA Rail cars are Venture-branded and not Vantage. I must have misunderstood my source. The AMTRAK cars are Airo by Siemens.
If I'm not mistaken, what the OP was asking about had nothing to do with the carbody structure; it had to do with the installed amenities and service level provided in the trains. I will be highly interested to read about them.
The idea of a consistent 'shell' structure used in different applications is what I recall CAF touting to an even higher degree in the Horizon or Viewliner or whatever you call them cars. There, not only was the shell given different fenestration and door openings as desired, but the interior components were modular to facilitate both manufacture to design, and subsequent conversion if desired.
OvermodIf I'm not mistaken, what the OP was asking about had nothing to do with the carbody structure; it had to do with the installed amenities and service level provided in the trains. I will be highly interested to read about them.
I don't like the new paint scheme on the Airo trains. I like the blue but the rest could have been done better. I do like the new Wisconsin and Southern paint scheme............that looks nice.
CMStPnPI don't like the new paint scheme on the Airo trains. I like the blue but the rest could have been done better. I do like the new Wisconsin and Southern paint scheme............that looks nice.
D.CarletonFrankly, I'm a stainless steel purist; it should be allowed to gleam in all its 301L austenetic brilliance. What is seen on all Venture coaches is a vinyl wrap. Eventually, as with all political footballs that are public transit agencies, austerity periods will come and that wrap will be minimized/eliminated until it gets seedy enough to warrant complaint. At which point an "artist" will be commissioned (at outrageous cost) to design a new wrap that "captures the heart and spirit of social consciousness" or whatever virtue signaling is cause celebre at that point.
They put a wrap over a stainless steel skin? Geez.
Rocks, Ice, etc are going to mess that up. They should have stuck with the window band thingy.
CMStPnPThey should have stuck with the window band thingy.
D.Carleton CMStPnP I don't like the new paint scheme on the Airo trains. I like the blue but the rest could have been done better. I do like the new Wisconsin and Southern paint scheme............that looks nice. Frankly, I'm a stainless steel purist; it should be allowed to gleam in all its 301L austenetic brilliance. What is seen on all Venture coaches is a vinyl wrap. Eventually, as with all political footballs that are public transit agencies, austerity periods will come and that wrap will be minimized/eliminated until it gets seedy enough to warrant complaint. At which point an "artist" will be commissioned (at outrageous cost) to design a new wrap that "captures the heart and spirit of social consciousness" or whatever virtue signaling is cause celebre at that point.
CMStPnP I don't like the new paint scheme on the Airo trains. I like the blue but the rest could have been done better. I do like the new Wisconsin and Southern paint scheme............that looks nice.
Frankly, I'm a stainless steel purist; it should be allowed to gleam in all its 301L austenetic brilliance. What is seen on all Venture coaches is a vinyl wrap. Eventually, as with all political footballs that are public transit agencies, austerity periods will come and that wrap will be minimized/eliminated until it gets seedy enough to warrant complaint. At which point an "artist" will be commissioned (at outrageous cost) to design a new wrap that "captures the heart and spirit of social consciousness" or whatever virtue signaling is cause celebre at that point.
Gee wilikers, I guess someone is a rightist whiner.
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