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More studies for eliminating coastal erosion.
Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, August 17, 2023 3:27 PM
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:40 PM

Have to wonder if the predicted California high surf warning will mean more erosion and possibly another closing or restrictions for the surf line?

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:37 AM

Having commuted on the surf line for a couple of years, I would also wonder if the service would be discontinued for the duration of the high surf warning. The erosion concern would pertain to the sand being washed away from the roadbed - high tide line is at the base of the roadbed for part of the line in the south part of San Clemente. The highest surf will be along the Espee's Coast line west of Santa Barbara (yes, I do mean west of Santa Barbara).

Update: This mornings NWS forecast calls for high surf in the northern part of Orange county, with New Port Beach the southernmost community mentioned. I suspect that is due from Catalina providing some protection.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, December 28, 2023 9:54 AM

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Studies may be moot if the new hurrican hits San Diego and washes more cliff away.

I think California needs to spend possibly $20 Billion (my estimate) to tunnel under those mountains East of San Diego and link up with UP RR in Arizona and use that as a new freight route as well as start passenger service between San Diego and Arizona.    Why only have one route into San Diego that is always at risk for weather or wild fire?  :)

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Thursday, December 28, 2023 1:56 PM

It would be a lot cheaper to rehabilitate the SD&AE line between San Diego and El Centro, though there is the issue of dealing with the 44 mile section of the Tijuana & Tecate in Mexico. Bypassing the T&T might cost a few billion though.

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Posted by azrail on Wednesday, January 3, 2024 11:36 AM

That area N of the existing SD&AE is on a major earthquake fault line..forget about putting a tunnel through that area. Plus most of the land is environmentally protected. Also if you have ever driven I-8 through the rock pile between Ocotillo and Jacumba you will find out why the RR went into Mexico instead.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, January 3, 2024 12:52 PM

Has any of the last storms erroded the coast near tthe line?

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Wednesday, January 3, 2024 11:18 PM

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Also if you have ever driven I-8 through the rock pile between Ocotillo and Jacumba you will find out why the RR went into Mexico instead.

FWIW, I've lived in San Diego County for  57 years and have drive I-8 many times and have done a few trips along highway 94. I've also taken a ride on the line between Campo and Jacumba in 1999. The SD&AE goes north from Jacumba to get to El Centro. The Tijuana & Tecate line is well west of there.

The main impediment to an "All American" route would have been the stretch between Jamul and Campo (highway 94). I had looked over topo maps of that area and it looked like construction between Chula Vista and Jamul wouldn't have been that bad. The biggest obstacle would have been the canyon downstream from Barrett dam.

One of my favorite projected but partially built lines was the San Diego, Cuyamaca & Eastern.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Wednesday, January 3, 2024 11:23 PM

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Has any of the last storms erroded the coast near tthe line?

Can't say anything about the line through San Clemente, but my son said that much of the sand on the beach between Cardiff and Solana Beach was pretty much gone. The Surf Line runs a few hundred feet inland from the beach and east of "old highway 101".

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, January 3, 2024 11:53 PM

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Has any of the last storms erroded the coast near tthe line? 

Here is another article about more waves.

El Niño super swell hits California with 25ft waves and forecaster predicts worse to come (msn.com)

Fortunately the rail area in question is not directly west facing which will mitigate the erosion.

Massive waves forecast in California renew dangerous surf threat (foxweather.com)w

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, January 6, 2024 8:08 PM

`Rouge waves keep hitting California . Hopefully none on any of the coast line's RR.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, January 7, 2024 3:03 PM

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`Rouge waves keep hitting California . Hopefully none on any of the coast line's RR.

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If they do it repeatedly - they are no longer rogue, they are just unscheduled.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, January 7, 2024 6:02 PM

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