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Some potential destinations becoming available that Amtrak cannot serve.
Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 7:34 PM

Delta airline has or will be suspending service to these cities.  Some on present routes and others that would be nice to fill in.

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Delta Is Giving Up On These 17 Cities

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The airline recently cut two more markets from its schedule.

Delta Is Giving Up On These 17 Cities
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Recently, the Federal Aviation Administration urged airlines to cut back on the amount of flights they offer by up to 10% at some of the nation’s busiest airports due to a lack of in air-traffic controllers.

Thanks to a lack of pilots and other airport workers, a casualty of the buyouts and early retirements that airlines offered employees during the pandemic, there was an unusually high number of delays and cancellations last year. In an effort to prevent that from happening this summer, and as a way to ease overall congestion, the FAA has been urging airlines to cut back a bit.

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Now, Delta  (DAL) - Get Free Report has announced that it has removed two more cities from its schedule of flights, bringing its total number of cut flights to 17. 

Starting on June 5, Delta will no longer fly to La Crosse, Wisconsin, and State College, Pennsylvania. At the moment, as noted by The Point Guy, the airline offers once-daily flights between Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport (MSP) and La Crosse Regional Airport (LSE), as well as twice-daily flights from LaGuardia Airport (LGA) to University Park Airport (SCE) near State College.

Delta says the cuts are temporary, and that it will notify anyone affected by this change. It said they will be “accommodated accordingly.”

 

Delta Still Has Staffing Problems

Delta has approved a new contract that includes 34% raises over four years, as part of an investment effort to recruit and train a new generation of pilots and to replace the 17,000 employees who left during the pandemic.

But it’s going to take a while to get everyone up to speed, so Delta has had to cut back on the amount of flights it offers at its regional markets. Typically, pilots will start their careers at smaller markets before working their way to the major hubs, if that’s what they want, but at the moment, Delta doesn’t have the staff on hand for these markets. 

Since the pandemic, the company has now cut the following 17 cities from its flight schedules, and has not indicated when they might be reinstated.  

  • Akron, Ohio.
  • Cody, Wyoming.
  • Durango, Colorado.
  • Erie, Pennsylvania.
  • Flint, Michigan.
  • Fort Smith, Arkansas.
  • Grand Junction, Colorado.
  • La Crosse, Wisconsin.
  • Lincoln, Nebraska.
  • Manchester, New Hampshire.
  • New Bern, North Carolina.
  • Newburgh, New York.
  • Newport News, Virginia.
  • Peoria, Illinois.
  • Santa Barbara, California.
  • State College, Pennsylvania.
  • Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.
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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:14 AM

All of those were served by regional jets.  I wonder how much Federal $$ for Essential Air service they got.  

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, April 8, 2023 10:52 AM

Is the point of this topic to show that Amtrak could pick up some new destinations because the airlines are pulling out of service to those locations?  It does seem to, to me.

Since this topic seems to be implying an opportunity for Amtrak to pick up this newly low-hanging fruit, it might also be useful to make sure that another airline isn't still offering these flights.

 

Santa Barbara is already served by Amtrak.  Any others?

 

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, April 8, 2023 11:43 AM

I might comment that the territory that was 'served' by Avoca would be low-hanging fruit indeed if the Scranton service were introduced...

And if you've ever been through Avoca you'll sure know why.

Erie is served by the LSL... at about 2:40 in the morning at a closed station.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, April 8, 2023 1:00 PM

7j43k
Is the point of this topic to show that Amtrak could pick up some new destinations because the airlines are pulling out of service to those locations?  It does seem to, to me.

Since this topic seems to be implying an opportunity for Amtrak to pick up this newly low-hanging fruit, it might also be useful to make sure that another airline isn't still offering these flights. 

Santa Barbara is already served by Amtrak.  Any others?

Ed

The problem would be that Amtrak does not necessarily service the origins that the air lines have as their origins.

About 25 years ago I flew into Akron on Delta, my actual origin was Jacksonville and the origin of the flight to Akron was Atlanta.  As I recall the Atlanta-Akron leg of the fight was serviced with a MD-11 in both directions.

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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, April 8, 2023 1:23 PM

If the airlines can't make a go of it....?

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Ajsik on Saturday, April 8, 2023 7:29 PM

BaltACD
As I recall the Atlanta-Akron leg of the fight was serviced with a MD-11 in both directions.
 

You could have won a beer by betting with me on that one. I would have guessed regional jet...or turboprop...

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, April 8, 2023 8:15 PM

Ajsik
 
BaltACD
As I recall the Atlanta-Akron leg of the fight was serviced with a MD-11 in both directions. 

You could have won a beer by betting with me on that one. I would have guessed regional jet...or turboprop...

Likely continuing on (possibly with additional stops) to a major destination like Chicago.  And then perhaps 'pathed' from there to the West Coast when the aircraft was turned.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, April 8, 2023 9:06 PM

7j43k
... Santa Barbara is already served by Amtrak.  Any others?

These from the earlier list are served by Amtrak:

  • Erie, Pennsylvania.
  • Flint, Michigan.
  • Grand Junction, Colorado.
  • La Crosse, Wisconsin.
  • Lincoln, Nebraska.
  • Newport News, Virginia.
  • Santa Barbara, California.
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, April 9, 2023 1:38 PM

Madison, WI

Rochester, MN

Columbus, OH

Phoenix, AZ

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by rdamon on Sunday, April 9, 2023 4:14 PM

Overmod

 

 
Ajsik
 
BaltACD
As I recall the Atlanta-Akron leg of the fight was serviced with a MD-11 in both directions. 

You could have won a beer by betting with me on that one. I would have guessed regional jet...or turboprop...

 

Likely continuing on (possibly with additional stops) to a major destination like Chicago.  And then perhaps 'pathed' from there to the West Coast when the aircraft was turned.

 

 

Overmod

 

 
Ajsik
 
BaltACD
As I recall the Atlanta-Akron leg of the fight was serviced with a MD-11 in both directions. 

You could have won a beer by betting with me on that one. I would have guessed regional jet...or turboprop...

 

Likely continuing on (possibly with additional stops) to a major destination like Chicago.  And then perhaps 'pathed' from there to the West Coast when the aircraft was turned.

 

 

Delta stopped flying the MD-11 after 9/11. They leased them to World Airways. Most of them got painted purple and fly boxes now.

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