New hope for Penn Station (redux)

[Lithonia Operator]

daveklepper

The T-1 rebirth:

The project is 38.7% complete as of September 1, 2021

(Wikapedia)

I hope and believe it will be successful.

 

 

 

I hope you're right, Dave! Would be great if it happened.

[BaltACD]

Lithonia Operator

 

daveklepper

The T-1 rebirth:

The project is 38.7% complete as of September 1, 2021

(Wikapedia)

I hope and believe it will be successful. 

I hope you're right, Dave! Would be great if it happened.

How much has actually been financed?

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

And if this engineering experiment is actually built, where will it be operated and how will its operation be funded??

[54light15]

Another tragedy of preservation was the scrapping of the SS Normandie in 1947. Done by Lipsett Brothers who demolished Penn Station. 

[MidlandMike]

daveklepper

I'm unsure I'd really want New York's Pennsylvania Station to be re-created. ...

New York saved the right station, GCT.

[daveklepper]

I would have been happy to see Penn saved, but if GCT had been destroyed, I woul d have been far more unhappy. 

Funding of the T-1  revival does not appear a problem.  Donations continue to come in as the work progresses.  Cayuga Valley and Steamtown are already commited as hosts.  And the engineerring chsnges to make the restoration more reliable and easier to maintain seem sensible and won't distract from its appearance or sound.

[Lithonia Operator]

daveklepper

Funding of the T-1  revival does not appear a problem.  Donations continue to come in as the work progresses.  Cayuga Valley and Steamtown are already commited as hosts.  And the engineerring chsnges to make the restoration more reliable and easier to maintain seem sensible and won't distract from its appearance or sound.

 

Your optimism prompted me to visit their website. There is a video that shows the in-progress boiler. Very impressive.

[BEAUSABRE]

Nope, Ain't gonna happen, the current atrocity is "historic"

"NEW YORK — The destruction of New York’s Penn Station — built in 1910, demolished in 1963 — is often cited as a seminal moment in the movement to preserve historic buildings. Now, the processes to protect historic structures may be used to prevent redevelopment of the current Penn Station, the crowded, confusing, and largely unloved underground space currently used by Amtrak, Long Island Rail Road, and NJ Transit passengers.

Bloomberg CityLab reports New York’s Historic Preservation Office is proposing that the 2 Penn Plaza office building, the Garden, and the underground station should be added to the National Register of Historic Places, a move which would almost certainly slow the redevelopment proposed by former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and supported in reduced form by his successor, Gov. Kathy Hochul. The move reflects a law requiring the preservation office “to be consulted throughout the project planning process and have the opportunity to make recommendations.”

The historic status is sought mainly to check the redevelopment plan introduced earlier this year by Cuomo and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. That plan called for 10 new skyscrapers to be built, offsetting the cost of rebuilding the station and adding nine new tracks [see “New York governor, MTA unveil proposals …,” Trains News Wire, April 22, 2021]. Hochul introduced her revised version of the plan in November, which projects a cost of $6 billion to $7 billion to rebuild the station, cuts 1.4 million square feet from the redevelopment plan, and calls for decreased building heights. Opponents say a number of historic buildings would have to be torn down for the new skyscrapers and oppose the changes the new buildings would bring to the neighborhood."

- Trains Newswire

 

[Electroliner 1935]

"Its my way or the Highway!" As Rodney King said, "Can't WE just get along.

 

[54light15]

Here's this from the IRJ

https://www.railjournal.com/infrastructure/us-2-87bn-penn-station-access-project-receives-approval/