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Posted by northeaster on Friday, March 26, 2021 1:40 PM

Overmod: About 8 years ago we took a 2nd class sleeper (1st class was sold out) wherein our space held 4 transverse bunks slung by chains with two men sleeping in the lowers, leaving us to climb up with our bags. The car did have two types of rest rooms, traditional & western, traditional having a squat through floor hole. The train was fast, a comfortable ride and perfect on time arrival the next morning. An amazingly well managed system of enormous size employing vast numbers of persons but definitly different from our Amtrak & VIA experiences!

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:14 PM

Another night train Brussels -  Berlin.  Unfortunately this link is paywalled.

Another new Brussels – Berlin night train announced | International Railway Journal (railjournal.com)

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, April 9, 2021 10:02 PM

Another night train for April 2022.  Praha - Bussels and intermediate stations

Night train to connect Brussels, Amsterdam, Berlin and Praha | News | Railway Gazette International

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:06 AM

This is interesting- it looks like they might be going back to the original plan for the Chunnel. 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/11/the-dream-ticket-a-sleeper-train-to-europes-cities-may-soon-be-on-track 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, April 11, 2021 1:28 PM

65:  Thanks.  Noted the change of requirements of each car's fire protection 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/11/the-dream-ticket-a-sleeper-train-to-europes-cities-may-soon-be-on-track 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, April 11, 2021 3:24 PM

blue streak 1

Another night train for April 2022.  Praha - Bussels and intermediate stations

Night train to connect Brussels, Amsterdam, Berlin and Praha | News | Railway Gazette International

 

In competition with the first Belgian group as far as Berlin,   but with a different schedule.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:36 AM

In depth article in Guardian about UK to Europe planned sleeper service.

The dream ticket: sleeper trains could soon run from London to Europe’s cities | Rail transport | The Guardian

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:44 PM

Long article giving history and plans for new night train services in  the EU. .  This from IRJ  Internation railway journal.  Note may be paywalled.

Getting overnight travel back on track | International Railway Journal (railjournal.com)ri

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, May 7, 2021 3:15 PM

I'll be watching with great interest to see how the OBB/Siemens 'mini-suite' idea is implemented, supported, and patronized.  That specifically includes the expenses and perhaps difficulties of turning the units effectively.

I still fail to understand why provision of 'breakfast' should be substantially more difficult than it was for most hotel chains here with 'free breakfasts' before the pandemic.

Special legislation is needed to address the issue of VAT differences... and subsequent payment to governments... by international accord, perhaps made specific for this type of train service. I'd at least argue that the advantages in prospective 'take rate' societally far outweigh the marginal revenue from the tax, although it might to be fair have to be extended to the unlikely provision of sleeper aircraft or buses on comparable routes.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, June 4, 2021 8:34 AM

Night trains proposed to Schiphol so passengers can take early flights out of the airport.  Might be very inviting for trans Atlantic and trans Pacific flights ?

Arriva eyes night trains to Schiphol | News | Railway Gazette International

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, June 17, 2021 12:46 PM

The night train wanna bees keep coming out of the woods. Here is a link long on  fancy PR and very short on substance.

Midnight Trains - Our Story (midnight-trains.com)

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