henry6 What's the surprise? What's the doubt? What's the discussion? These two tunnels have served for about 100 years and have taken a pounding. When will Americans learn that nothing we make lasts forever and needs to be rebuilt, replaced, and retired. Many only hope the tunnels will last more than 20 more days much less 20 more years. They've got to be replaced. There are no questions, there are no doubts. And there may be no time to doubt and debate.,
What's the surprise? What's the doubt? What's the discussion? These two tunnels have served for about 100 years and have taken a pounding. When will Americans learn that nothing we make lasts forever and needs to be rebuilt, replaced, and retired. Many only hope the tunnels will last more than 20 more days much less 20 more years. They've got to be replaced. There are no questions, there are no doubts. And there may be no time to doubt and debate.,
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Well then, in the meantime they'd better run as many trains possible through those tunnels before it's too late!
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blue streak 1 Boardman has been told North river tunnels have 20 years or less before at least one will have to be shut down. Will try to post is full comments. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-05/hudson-rail-tunnels-have-up-to-20-years-left-amtrak-says.html
Boardman has been told North river tunnels have 20 years or less before at least one will have to be shut down. Will try to post is full comments.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-05/hudson-rail-tunnels-have-up-to-20-years-left-amtrak-says.html
Could not find Boardman's complete statement but may some other poster can ?
If this is correct several possibilities exist.
1. Question what is the basis for such a claim ?
2. IIs water leakage increasing ?
3. Are the walls of the tunnels getting thin ? If so at a certain point the possibility of a catastrophic failure ?
5. If one tunnel closed and Gateway tunnels not complete the other tunnel would probably have to be closed on some weekends cutting off service ?
6. What would NJT & Amtrak do for traffic? Could one solution be diverting trains to Hoboken terminal with Newark Penn - Hoboken double tracked ?
7. Maybe some trains would need to be lengthened but that would require a quick double stop at NYP?. Unfortunately longer trains would slightly reduce trains per hour thru tunnel even with extended fleeting times. .The 18 car regionals now being tested behind ACS-64s could become the norm ?
8. Most Amtrak LD trains might need to terminate at PHL ? Ongoing passengers would need to transfer to expanded Regionals ?
9. Acela trains could rob cars from one or more train sets to lengthen others to maximum allowable NYP?
10. More late night trains ? ex 2 -3 more trains 66 & 67
All in all
Congress needs to get going on the new Gateway tunnels.
Boardman has been told North river tunnels have 20 years or less before at least one will have to be shut down. Will try to post his full comments.
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