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LAX I-10 closing
Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, November 13, 2023 12:06 PM

A fire that spread to items stored under I-10 has damaged the  bridge(s) causing an indefinite closing.

What commuter rail and light rail lines might take some overload?

Why did California ignore the same type damage to I-85 in Atlanta a few years ago?  It is time for the US federal highway department to warn all 50 states highway departments of this danger!

Fire causes I-10 freeway closure in Los Angeles | CNN

I-10 fire closure scrambles Los Angeles traffic | The Hill

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, November 13, 2023 12:45 PM

Metrolink has increased service rather much.

Service Updates | Metrolink (metrolinktrains.com)

EDIT;  Once Metrolink expands to its full capacity the need to bring on an Amtrak surge fleet would have been an effective back up. But, many persons say no reasons for a surge fleet.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, November 13, 2023 3:07 PM

Just love the looks of storing fire fuel under expressway bridges.  

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, November 13, 2023 8:17 PM

BaltACD

Just love the looks of storing fire fuel under expressway bridges.  

 

Add it to the ever growing list in that state.   Which is OK with me, it's the running to the U.S. Treasury to bail them out which gets under my skin.    Which is going to happen with their HSR project over and over again until it is finished.

 

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, November 13, 2023 10:34 PM

BaltACD

Just love the looks of storing fire fuel under expressway bridges.  

At least one of the officials involved with the I-10 mess said that theyw ould look into restricting what can be stored underneath the elevated roadways. Seems to be a bit late for that. One would think that the folks at CalTrans would learn from what happened in other states - "Smart people learn from their mistakes, really smart people learn from other peoples' mistakes."

Update: The fire appears to have been intentionally set. In addtion, CalTrans as the landlord was having problems evicting the tenant who stopped paying rent and apparently sublet some of the land.

 

I wonder if Metrolink is going to forgo the planned post Christmas shutdown.

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Posted by J. Bishop on Monday, November 13, 2023 10:56 PM

So what?  The feds have bailed out not a few freeway projects, in fact they not the states, pay almost all of the cost.  Not sure how much they subsidize airport construction.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:54 PM

The CALTRANS statement of 3 - 5 weeks for complete repairs is going to butt up to the planned shut down of Metrolink Dec 26 - 29 for signal work at LAX union station signal work,.  As well no notice from Amtrak as to what it is going to do with the station closing?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:51 AM

Wonder what the earthquake resistance of the bridge is until repairs are complete? 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, November 15, 2023 10:08 AM

One item favorable to I-10 compared to Atlanta is the Atlanta fire was much hotter.  ATL fire was fed by petroleum and tons of plastic underground conduit stored under the I-85 bridge/  + The ATL fire lasted much longer.

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Posted by spsffan on Wednesday, November 15, 2023 3:51 PM

CMStPnP
Add it to the ever growing list in that state.   Which is OK with me, it's the running to the U.S. Treasury to bail them out which gets under my skin.    Which is going to happen with their HSR project over and over again until it is finished.

 

Not to worry. California has been a doner state paying with residents paying far more in federal taxes than the state receives in federal funding. If it ever got even close, I migh raise an eyebrow. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, November 16, 2023 9:22 PM

spsffan
Not to worry. California has been a doner state paying with residents paying far more in federal taxes than the state receives in federal funding. If it ever got even close, I migh raise an eyebrow. 

That is just Federal Program money spent within California's borders alone.   It's a rather narrow view that the stat is accurate and that somehow the Feds need to spend more money within the state borders to even things up.    It neglects to examine the Federal spending in states outside of California that supports California that are not reflected in that stat.    I seem to remember that California imports a lot of water and electricity for starters............and over rather long distances from outside the state.    Without realizing it, you helped me make the point.   So thanks.Big Smile

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Posted by spsffan on Wednesday, November 22, 2023 3:18 PM

CMStPnP
I seem to remember that California imports a lot of water and electricity for starters............and over rather long distances from outside the state. 

Actually, California, where after 60 years I no longer live but continue to be taxed does not import water to my knowledge. All the water enters the state by its own volition and gets divered to where it is needed. Electricity is another matter, but the imports are less than they used to be. We learned a lesson about dealing with Texas based electrical operaters a few years back. 

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