Bel-Air Wants To Stop A Subway For A Monorail (jalopnik.com)
Monorails are futuristic. Look at the one in Wuppertal, Germany. Built in what, 1904? Disneylands' monorail has been showing us the way since 1955! All aboard for the future because there's nothing like an genuine, electrified, bonafide monorail!
Don't kid yourselves, if the monorail has the possibility of being a noisy eyesore, and it just might, they won't want that either.
54light15All aboard for the future because there's nothing like an genuine, electrified, bonafide monorail!
Isn't that an almost direct quote from the "Simpsons"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taJ4MFCxiuo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_vs._the_Monorail
Flintlock76Don't kid yourselves, if the monorail has the possibility of being a noisy eyesore, and it just might, they won't want that either.
But monorails are kewl !
A monorail is more of a Shelbyville idea.
An "expensive model collector"
Hey! We're twice as smart as Shelbyville. Tell us your idea and we'll vote for it!
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54light15 Disneylands' monorail has been showing us the way since 1955!
Disneylands' monorail has been showing us the way since 1955!
Think it is more like 1959 - 1960. Before that they had a scaled down Aerotrain running, IIRC, a separate track from the steam powered Disneyland RR.
People get deceived by appearances quite easily. That being said, the structure needed by a monorail is not that different than the structure used on the sections of the CTA Orange Line that aren't on an embankment.
Erik_Mag 54light15 Disneylands' monorail has been showing us the way since 1955! Think it is more like 1959 - 1960. Before that they had a scaled down Aerotrain running, IIRC, a separate track from the steam powered Disneyland RR.
Hmmm, I wonder if BelAir would like a steam-powered commuter line a la' Disneyland? Dont' call it transportation, call it a ride!
Make sure they have to buy E tickets
Flintlock76 Hmmm, I wonder if BelAir would like a steam-powered commuter line a la' Disneyland? Dont' call it transportation, call it a ride!
Hmmm, maybe make some of the engines from Thomas and Friends to give it some personality as well?
On a slightly more realistic note, the "subway" cars will work perfectly fine on elevated tracks, which would probably cost less than a monorail and offer better service.
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Flintlock76Hmmm, I wonder if BelAir would like a steam-powered commuter line a la' Disneyland?
Make sure it's coal fired with some nice dirty sub-bituminus to really twist their knickers outta shape
BEAUSABRE Flintlock76 Hmmm, I wonder if BelAir would like a steam-powered commuter line a la' Disneyland? Make sure it's coal fired with some nice dirty sub-bituminus to reaaly twist them outa shape
Flintlock76 Hmmm, I wonder if BelAir would like a steam-powered commuter line a la' Disneyland?
Make sure it's coal fired with some nice dirty sub-bituminus to reaaly twist them outa shape
No, I'd be a little kinder than that. I'd have the engines burn recycled fryer oil from area McDonalds so the trains smell like French fries.
Hey, who doesn't like Micky D's French fries?
Flintlock76Hey, who doesn't like Micky D's French fries?
People feom Belair - they're all on wacky "healthy" diets and view fries as the work of the Devil - no, wait they don't believe in the Devil, substitute Donald Trump
BEAUSABREPeople feom Belair - they're all on wacky "healthy" diets and view fries as the work of the Devil - no, wait they don't believe in the Devil, substitute Donald Trump
I am actually going back to revive Andreas Schwander's monorail design to see if it could be adapted to dual-mode hydrogen firing. That would be a showpiece!
I'd like to see that.
The people of Bel Air want the monorail for the servants to ride. I highly doubt that they would ride it themselves.
54light15The people of Bel Air want the monorail for the servants to ride. I highly doubt that they would ride it themselves.
I was involved in some of the planning for the Memphis airport extension -- which I understood as being justified by people 'downtown' being able to get quickly and reliably to the international airport terminals regardless of weather or traffic. The alternative -- express buses -- is easily provided by MATA if you can tolerate negotiating access to several Interstates, and of course could be run with their paratransit equipment. The basic route I was promoting was the Cleveland Avenue hospital extension of the existing trolley, with a jump-off to the existing NS local line just east of Danny Thomas Blvd, with new construction reaching a point south of the airport, probably close to Democrat Rd. where construction would not impede current road traffic access, which would be served by shuttles to the various terminals.
What happened instead was precisely that the commission discussing the project decided it was for the equivalent of 'servants' to get to the airport. So it was re-routed, very intrusively and expensively and not very safely, to cross into a couple of major streets, at grade, and then have multiple stops on non-level trackage, winding through a sort of 'watershed' of low-income neighborhoods that could benefit from cheap reliable access to airport jobs. The result being something like an agonizing 45-minute travel time, with no particular access to or handling of luggage, with a great many difficult-to-execute-smoothly stops ... for about $4 billion (yes, with a B) projected cost that I expected would only go higher.
Perhaps needless to say, the idea died right there. For that amount, we could Uber employees free upon their request, and have enough left over to build a real airport line...
Everything old is new again. I found this article on the state of the (monorail) art from 1956: https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v12n02_1956-06/page/n49/mode/2up
wherein Willy Ley mentions a then current proposal to install monorail from Los Angeles to Van Nuys, using the median of a then proposed freeway (would that be the 405?).
SD70DudeHey! We're twice as smart as Shelbyville. Tell us your idea and we'll vote for it!
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It was one of the best Simpson's episodes. Note that the monorail station is pure German art-deco like the terminal at Templehof field in Berlin. They did their homework on that one.
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