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Tree derails CTA yellow line train
Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, June 9, 2020 8:24 PM

Skokie Swift:  Another tree incident with a rail train.  One hurt.  Note how many trees are along the ROW.  Seems like RRs and transit never learn about keeping ROW from probable trees falling on tracks  ?  As well note third rail vulnerable to getting shorted out by tree.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/06/09/cta-yellow-line-train-derails-in-skokie-service-suspended 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 5:45 AM

Are the trees growing (and dying) on railroad OWNED property?

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:56 AM

And don't forget the political power of nature-lovers.

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:43 PM

daveklepper

And don't forget the political power of nature-lovers.

 

As opposed to political power of nature-haters?

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 7:36 PM

Just asking, are these trains autonomous?  Isn't the rngineer (or motorman?) supposed to be paying attention to whats  in front of their train? Blindfold

 

 


 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:00 PM

samfp1943
Just asking, are these trains autonomous?  Isn't the rngineer (or motorman?) supposed to be paying attention to whats  in front of their train? Blindfold

Trains - Freight or Passenger - operating under signal indication, with Clear signals ARE NOT line of sight vehicles.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:10 PM

You gotta watch out for these trees, I'm telling you.  Ask Saruman at Isengard what he thinks about them.    Or Jesus -- he made a life's work out of mutilating them... but they got their revenge on him in the end.  I ask you, can you trust Christ-killing things you can't even reason with?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:23 AM

You are right about railroad trains not being line-of-sight vehicles.  That is why signals started in use some 160 years ago.  An automotible driver drives on line of sight and is supposed to be able to stop safely no matteer what the emergency.  Ditto a streetcaf operator, which is why light rail operqtions today restrict speeds in downtown on=street operations, even if on dedicated lanes.  Oveying traffic lights, of course.  And then use signals for higher speed safety elsewhere.

The last Third Avenue Elevated had no signals except at interlodkings on its local tracks.  CTA jad some simiklar operations, but I believe is completely signalled today.  Am I correcdt?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:07 AM

CTA has wayside signals on some routes and locations and cab signalling everywhere else.

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Posted by Falcon48 on Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:32 AM

samfp1943

Just asking, are these trains autonomous?  Isn't the rngineer (or motorman?) supposed to be paying attention to whats  in front of their train? Blindfold

 

CTA trains are not autonomous.  The picture shows what probably happened.  The trains run right handed, so the picture is showing the front of the train.  Note that there is a curve behind the train.  So, coming around the curve, the motorman (who sits in the right side of the cab in the direction of travel, so he was on the inside of the curve) probably couldn't see the tree until it was too late to stop.  I'm pretty familiar with the Yellow Line (it's part of the former North Shore Line), and trains are usually running at full speed in this area.  CTA trains stop much faster than conventional trains but, of course, not as fast as a car. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, October 23, 2020 5:05 AM

Quoting Overmod:

You gotta watch out for these trees, I'm telling you.  Ask Saruman at Isengard what he thinks about them.    Or Jesus -- he made a life's work out of mutilating them... but they got their revenge on him in the end.  I ask you, can you trust Christ-killing things you can't even reason with?

Hey, Overmod, are not we supposed to steer clear of politics and religion?  How dare you use the C___t word!!!!!   (But Jesus is OK.  Also the name of a Cuban ball-player, if I remember correctly.)

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, October 23, 2020 10:37 AM

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How dare you use the C___t word!!!!!

It's a participle that means 'anointed'.  Would you prefer I refer to him as 'Oily Josh'? Wink

Interestingly no American denomination pronounces the name correctly.  (Which should not be surprising considering they can't pronounce 'thou' correctly either... let alone understand how it is grammatically used.)

None of this addresses faith at all, or is supposed to.  Just as the map is not the territory, the name doesn't define the person.  The Orthodox do this in a slightly different manner by never naming the Eternal, even in print; in my opinion we can kid a bit about the carpenter part without, well, the other.

More specifically, thinking about it a bit, I did not intend to reference any other religious groups 'historically reviled' for you-know-what.  I will happily take that reference out if it offends in that respect.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, October 23, 2020 11:14 AM

Overmod

You gotta watch out for these trees, I'm telling you.  Ask Saruman at Isengard what he thinks about them.    Or Jesus -- he made a life's work out of mutilating them... but they got their revenge on him in the end.  I ask you, can you trust Christ-killing things you can't even reason with?

 

Although I'm not personally offended, your post seems tasteless and pretty tangential to the topic.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, October 23, 2020 11:16 AM

Overmod

 

 
daveklepper
How dare you use the C___t word!!!!!

 

It's a participle that means 'anointed'.  Would you prefer I refer to him as 'Oily Josh'? Wink

 

Interestingly no American denomination pronounces the name correctly.  (Which should not be surprising considering they can't pronounce 'thou' correctly either... let alone understand how it is grammatically used.)

None of this addresses faith at all, or is supposed to.  Just as the map is not the territory, the name doesn't define the person.  The Orthodox do this in a slightly different manner by never naming the Eternal, even in print; in my opinion we can kid a bit about the carpenter part without, well, the other.

More specifically, thinking about it a bit, I did not intend to reference any other religious groups 'historically reviled' for you-know-what.  I will happily take that reference out if it offends in that respect.

 

Bizarre.  Can't you just admit your original post was offensive to some/many and leave it at that?

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, October 23, 2020 11:39 AM

charlie hebdo
Can't you just admit your original post was offensive to some/many and leave it at that?

No; remediating the problem would be important, too.  That is not the same thing as pretending a problem doesn't exist -- which has not done too well with a number of recent threads -- nor is it the same thing as making the problem disappear down the memory hole, which would be intellectually dishonest if I practiced it merely for CYA.  I am not the one who brought this up again, nor would I comment on it at all (aside from asking Mr. Klepper in a PM to remove the requote) had it not been so quoted.

It is not as if the thread would stand or fall if a humorously-intended post fell flat or not, so no one would (or should) miss it.  And in any case far more posts viciously directed against the particular group in question and likely far more "offensive" to it, remain not only unacknowledged, but unapologized for.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, October 23, 2020 2:12 PM

Rationalization, as expected. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 23, 2020 2:16 PM

This thread is operating in excess of Track Speed.

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