RCA and New York Central Building
From Mike:
One Vanderbilt nearing completion.
The relationship to mass transit is....?
It is next to a major transit site and connected or close to major transit systems. GRAND CENTAL STATION, Multiple NYC subway lines, & the new L.I.RR terminal.
Electroliner 1935 It is next to a major transit site and connected or close to major transit systems. GRAND CENTAL STATION, Multiple NYC subway lines, & the new L.I.RR terminal.
Across the river from Ogilvie Transportation Center:
https://www.google.com/search?q=civic+opera+building&client=ms-android-vivo&prmd=minv&sxsrf=ACYBGNSgmt4btKizaz51o7UHtwrkWdjScg:1569360845138&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHh8vdtOrkAhUBlKwKHaJSAbsQ_AUIGSgC&biw=360&bih=600&dpr=3#imgrc=R%253B15miA2abz5HdkM%253BO_hrDIL9T-Sc7M%253B0.000%252C0.000%252C1.000%252C1.000&imgdii=Rt52NZ96kUc_1M
charlie hebdoAcross the river from Ogilvie Transportation Center: https://www.google.com/search?q=civic+opera+building&client=ms-android-vivo&prmd=minv&sxsrf=ACYBGNSgmt4btKizaz51o7UHtwrkWdjScg:1569360845138&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHh8vdtOrkAhUBlKwKHaJSAbsQ_AUIGSgC&biw=360&bih=600&dpr=3#imgrc=R%253B15miA2abz5HdkM%253BO_hrDIL9T-Sc7M%253B0.000%252C0.000%252C1.000%252C1.000&imgdii=Rt52NZ96kUc_1M
While the Chicago Civic Opera Center is across the river from what used to be the C&NW RR terminal, it is not nearly as significant a structure as One Vanderbilt. Nor does it see the quantity of commuters as will 1V. I used to walk past it every night when I rode C&NW's Geneva route (befor Metra) trains to Lombard. Why did you inject it into this thread?
As relevant as One Vanderbilt is. The old Daily News Building was even more relevant. I used to walk through it along with tens of thousands of commuters daily.
As did I. Back in the late thirties, when I was about five and lived in Glen Ellen, my dad worked in the Daily News building (which is an AIR RIGHTS building over the Union Station tracks) for the MPRR. But I still think 1V is relevant due to its location. Does it have any tracks under it like the Daily News building has? The Opera House does not.
So why is a photo of the old Art Deco Daily News building not relevant but the new Vanderbilt structure is? Because you think New York is more significant than Chicago?
Why are either of them significantly more 'on topic' to the forum topics than a discussion of Warbirds that many folks enjoyed for a long time until someone ran to mommy?
Railway Age, March 11, 2019
https://www.railwayage.com/news/tod-how-new-york-got-it-right/
As part of the One Vanderbilt Avenue Transit Improvements project, new transit entrances are being added on-site, providing direct connections to the Terminal, the NYCT Shuttle (S) and Grand Central/42nd Street (7) subway stations as well as to the future LIRR East Side Access concourse, three levels below…
charlie hebdoThe relationship to mass transit is....?
You don't need anything more than this.
And relax, I believe the Sears Tower (I'm not calling it the 'Willis' Tower in this lifetime!) is still comfortably higher. Just not related to transit the way a building in Grand Central's Terminal City is.
And there is a photo posted from years ago of the RCA building, not transit-related at all.
My point is simply this. Lets have consistency in rules. Either stick strictly to rail transportation or allow the group to decide by participation numbers if a non-rail topic should be allowed to continue, rather than another member report it to the moderator.
Plenty of Transit at the RCA building!
Great photos! When was the 6th avenue El taken down?
54light15 Great photos! When was the 6th avenue El taken down?
80 years ago.
Nit picking, 81, 1938
Age 8, rode it many times, but too young to photograph it.
The stations look like they were transplanted from the Union Loop on the Chicago Rapid Transit Company.
charlie hebdo So why is a photo of the old Art Deco Daily News building not relevant but the new Vanderbilt structure is? Because you think New York is more significant than Chicago? Why are either of them significantly more 'on topic' to the forum topics than a discussion of Warbirds that many folks enjoyed for a long time until someone ran to mommy?
Well of course New York is more significant than Chicago! Why do you think Chicago's called "The Second City?"
The Sixth Avenue El. Hmmmm, isn't that the one who's scrap metal was sold to the Japanese, and then they returned the finished products to us at Pearl Harbor?
Oh well, off to get some "Canadian Content" in the "Stringlining" topic. I'll tell you, NDG, Miningman, and the SD70Dude keep up better informed of what's going on up there than the American press does!
Wayne--Now hold on thar partner... not when it comes to Railroads and Hockey! Of course being a Blackhawk fan kind of skews my vision but the Rangers kinda suck.
Charlie-- Mike has his reasons and they are personal and valid.
He sends this:
Miningman Wayne--Now hold on thar partner... not when it comes to Railroads and Hockey! Of course being a Blackhawk fan kind of skews my vision but the Rangers kinda suck. Charlie-- Mike has his reasons and they are personal and valid. He sends this: The RCA Building is where Bill Paisley worked with Toscanini. https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc28200/m1/#track/6 https://ia600401.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/20/items/nbctransmitter3193nati/nbctransmitter3193nati_jp2.zip&file=nbctransmitter3193nati_jp2/nbctransmitter3193nati_0161.jp2&scale=2&rotate=0
Well of course the Rangers suck Vince, I blame NHL over-expansion! There aren't enough Canadian players to go around anymore, not like years ago! Over-expansion's the reason why there's so many mediocre baseball and football teams now instead of fewer, but more outstanding and exciting ones.
Ah, it's all about money. What are you gonna do? That's why I spend so much time on this website, it's more entertaining than anything else around.
daveklepper Nit picking, 81, 1938 Age 8, rode it many times, but too young to photograph it.
Not so fast!! It last ran on Dec. 4, 1938 and was torn down in 1939.
As to the scrap metal to Japan allegation, it was never substantiated one way or the other.
charlie hebdoAs to the scrap metal to Japan allegation, it was never substantiated one way or the other.
Doesn't have to be substantiated to be societally well known. Perhaps in large part because of this:
plato told him:he couldn't believe it(jesus told him;he wouldn't believe it)lao tsze certainly told him, and general (yes mam) sherman; and even (believe it or not)you told him:i told him; we told him (he didn't believe it, no sir)it took a nipponized bit of the old sixth avenue el;in the top of his head :to tell him
charlie hebdo daveklepper Nit picking, 81, 1938 Age 8, rode it many times, but too young to photograph it. Not so fast!! It last ran on Dec. 4, 1938 and was torn down in 1939. As to the scrap metal to Japan allegation, it was never substantiated one way or the other.
Really? Then where did all those New York City transit tokens scattered all over Hickam Field come from?
My mother's a New York City girl, she told me all about it! Mom wouldn't lie about stuff like that, would she?
Somebody mention RCA and Maestro Toscanini?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmmTjC3ffk
As was my mom. Manhattan-born. But probably not a reliable source.
Tootsie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEA-X0Fo-0&t=34m21s
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OiUAAOSwMmBV03Gb/s-l1600.jpg
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/imgsrv/image?id=nnc2.ark:/13960/t3jw8t41s;seq=1229;size=200;rotation=0
Don't like to strain my eyes and still wished to read the text, so:
AND:
There was an old hotel here in Richmond across from Capitol Square that was almost a dead-ringer for the Roosevelt, same architectural style but not as big.
They tore it down last year. It outlived it's usefulness as a hotel 30-plus years ago and was re-purposed as a state government office building, then it outlived its usefulness as that too.
I have no idea what it's replacement's going to look like. Probably nothing as classy looking.
When the 6th Avenue Elevated was discontinued I was six, shortly to be seven, not eight. But I had ridden it many times, any time Mom dragged me to Macy's or Gimble's for new clothes. As a growing boy with no older brothers to provide castoffs, this was twice a year. And of course to visit reletives in Staten Island, the first South Ferry local to arrive, the family boarded at Columbus and 86th, whether 6th or 9th. Always the front car from about age 4, just barely tall enough for eyes above the front window's bottom.
Lots of memories. When the 6th was discontinued, the M7 bus was the only replacement for us for clothes shopping, and it was really awful in comparison.
And David, how a lot of us envy you those memories! Just like my mother, you grew up in New York City in what had to be the best era to do so!
Certainly it wasn't all perfect, but what a wonderland it was.
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