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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:27 PM
62nd st on the West End line. At the south end of the platform facing southwest. You can see the Sea Beach line under lion.

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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:31 PM
PS The head house for the Sea Beach like is also under the lion. 62nd st is also the location of the end of the great subway chase in the movie The French Connection.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:55 AM

When the movie came out, many of us agreed that the chase in "The French Connection" was the best and most hair-raising chase ever filmed, even better than "Bullitt".

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:02 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
many of us agreed that the chase in "The French Connection" was the best and most hair-raising chase ever filmed

what are you going to do with all of those hare raising rabbits? Take them to Coney Island?

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:47 AM

The rabbits adopted hares?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, January 9, 2014 1:26 PM

62nd Street looking west i woiuld guess, despite the new building since I was there last and the name change on the corner store.  If I remember correctly, the old tower is at the north end of the station.

In the classic era some West End Locals, via Tunnel to Nassau Loop, Via Bridge to Brooklyn, would change ends on the center track here, running express between here and 9th Avenue in the REVERSE direction of the rush hour.  Others did terminal at Bay Parkway, often running light between there and C. I. Yard, directly, not via Stillwell Avenue Station.   The expresses to and from Times Square, local on the el structure of course, also reversed at Bay Parkway during rush hours, with three car gate trains with subway shoes running from there to Stillwell.   For some reason I remember them painted an odd shade of green, differen than other el cars.   1200-series wood  with steel underframe motors flanking center-door (c.d.not used) gate trailers, 900's?

During rush hours the four western-most tracks looked like an el terminal at Stillwell, with only gate cars, since Culver steels revesed at Kings Highway and gate shuttles (usual BMT brown color) ran 9th Avenue - Coney Island.  Of course before June 1940 these were Park Row - Coney Island elevated trains.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, January 9, 2014 4:18 PM
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CSSHEGEWISCH

many of us agreed that the chase in "The French Connection" was the best and most hair-raising chase ever filmed

what are you going to do with all of those hare raising rabbits? Take them to Coney Island?

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The rabbits adopted hares?

The rabbits with hair adopted so they would have heirs.

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Posted by NorthWest on Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:20 PM

Have the rabbits fight it out with the rats...?

I'll have to look into that movie.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, January 10, 2014 9:26 AM

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, January 10, 2014 5:35 PM

THERE'S the little guy!  Doing a little "sidewalk supervision" and going over the foremans job sheet with him.

Is there anything about subwayin' the Lion doesn't know?

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Posted by narig01 on Friday, January 10, 2014 5:48 PM
Ft Hamilton on the Sea Beach line? If I'm right then the bridge in the background is the 11th Av overcrossing with the stationhouse. And the New York and Atlantic Bay Ridge line in the background.
Oh yea the lion is supervising on the clipboard.

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, January 10, 2014 6:57 PM

Finding a clean subway window is hard, isn't it? I always have trouble finding one not scratched into an opaque mess.

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, January 10, 2014 9:50 PM

Oh, I have a question: what are those black things with graffiti on them in the foreground?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:40 AM

They are wiring pedestals. Could be signals, could be power, but they look like splice boxes for signal cables.  They are all over the place. You can see that they are sitting atop a concrete conduit that runs parallel to the track.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:24 AM

NYCT has four levels of snow plans. Well actually I wrote to the MTA Inspector General and now they have 5 levels, and I do not know if my letter had any effect, but they have adopted a fifth level according to mu suggestion.

Anyway, here we are at Snow Plan 5

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:41 PM

How does one mu snow plans?   I can see the possibilities of the three A-Div. redbirds mu'd together, one married pair and one solo car, possibly, but how does one mu snow plans?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:11 PM

The snow plans mostly have to do with protecting equipment during a storm.  Laying up trains on the express tracks and out of the exposed yards is one step, delaying planned work is another.

LION'S snow plan 5 calls for a graduated shutdown in service, and is supposed to let people know hours in advance as probable shutdowns, and not having passengers stranded on stalled trains.

LION made a map to esplain the plan of him:

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Posted by narig01 on Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:18 PM
And here I thought the plan was to put EZ track down after it snowed!

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:46 AM

You got the low risk and at risk portions of the f-&-G Culver Line reversed!  North of Church should be low risk and Macdonald Avenue at Risk.    You cannot effectively run down Madonald without going past Smith-4th and Smith-9th, unless you want to run  a C. I. - Ditmas service, not very useful. 

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:46 AM

Lion is in the tree in the background, above the snow pile.

I would suspect that the Rockaway Lines would be shut down, especially if there is spray onto the track. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:20 PM

daveklepper

You got the low risk and at risk portions of the f-&-G Culver Line reversed!  North of Church should be low risk and Macdonald Avenue at Risk.    You cannot effectively run down Madonald without going past Smith-4th and Smith-9th, unless you want to run  a C. I. - Ditmas service, not very useful. 

LION plan to keep most running as possible. McDonald is on open el with snow that falls down to street below. The Smith Viaduct is on a concrete slab subject to accumulating and drifting snow. These McDonald passengers can indeed change to the 4th Avenue line if the viaduct is blocked.

With the Brighton and the Se Beach blocked, and with the West End subject to FUBAR at both ends of its run, you darn well want that McDonald line running if you can have it.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, January 13, 2014 12:50 AM

And just what do they do when they get to Ditmas Avenue?  Are they better off than when they were at Coney Island?   Look at your map.   You are not providing service from Macdonald Avenue to 4th Avenue, only as far as Ditmas.

The concrete viaduct can be kept in service  becauss it is four-tracks wide, and snow that cannnot be shoved over the side can be piled up on the center tracks with the local tracks kept open.   At least that would be my stratergy, and I agree that the F line is the best to keep open to Coney Island, because all three of the others have extensive deep cuts.   The West End between 9th and 4th Avenues, mostly in tunnnel but also a rather long cut.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, January 13, 2014 7:13 AM

The dot at 4th Avenue is the wrong color.. Trains would have no trouble getting there since the station is half underground anyway.

The Plan is for shutting down the system in the face of a storm: getting people home or to their emergency work place. Once they start cleaning the tracks, every thing is running again, albeit lamely.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, January 13, 2014 2:18 PM

Yes, , but the switches are not arragned for turning back at 4th Avenue, and you would have to run to the switches just east of Smith-9th.   Since you have to clear the track there, you miight as well go all the way to the west portal.

The Culver is the logical line to devote all efforts for keeping open anyway, half-way between the underground IRT Nostrand Avenue  service and 4th Avenue.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:22 AM

Switches? Who needs switches. You can run a single train shuttle between there and elsewhere if need be. You can come into the station and wrong rail all the way back to Church if you have to.  We are thinkng extreme emergency operations here, just one step below a total shutdown.

If it can be cleared, it will run. But what if it cannot? Where do the plows have to come from, and how will they get there. Yes the Smith Viaduct would be among the first to reopen, bit it is more likely to close in the first hours of a storm than the rest of the McDonald (who had a farm--EIEIO)

And on his farm he had a cow, but the LION took care of that out of paw.!

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:30 AM

At the Island of Coney the LION inspects the (F) [as in frankfurter train) Maybe some Widebeests will come in on the nest train. If not, Nathan's is just down stairs.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:57 AM

Nathan's is an impressive hot dog shack, it would be better if they served decent hot dogs like Portillo's.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:05 AM

BroadwayLion

At the Island of Coney the LION inspects the (F) [as in frankfurter train) Maybe some Widebeests will come in on the nest train. If not, Nathan's is just down stairs.

Since I am not a lion, I would prefer going to see a new gnu at the zoo, rather than wait for one on a train.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:13 AM

Funny how the BIG CATS and Bears et al are at the north end of the zoo, and all of the big tasty beasts are at the south end of the zoo. I wonder if they planned it that way.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:23 AM

YOu may be inspecting the F, but you are on the platform used by the D, at the north end looking south.

The 4th venue station is also at risk from snow blowing in as well as falling, and it is partly in a cut itself.

Church Avenue has plenty of underground siding capacity for a snow blower and a plow to prepare for the storm.

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