PIctures of the new cab cars for GOtransit

[dh28473]

Are there any pictures of the cab cars controls?

[kgbw49]

These are some exterior photos of the new units:

http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/a-driving-by-the-oshawa-go-station-on-the-m-c-401-an-opportunity-presented-itself-so-i-couldnt-resist-shooting-this-thing-i-dont-mind-the-new-cab-car-design-looks-nice-enough-not-a-fan-of-the

http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/go-transit-cem-cab-car-in-foreground-with-via-passenger-cars-older-go-bi-level-coaches-and-in-background-at-the-willowbrook-yard-in-mimico

http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/a-cab-car-that-almost-looks-like-a-locomotive-a-fairly-new-cab-car-got-304-leads-a-westbound-go-transit-train-through-whitby-with-got-616-pushing

 

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Cab cars with that design can really limit flexibility in consists.  What is the reason behind a full-width control cab as opposed the more common smaller cab usually found in MU cars and other cab cars?

[kgbw49]

Could it be crash-resistance protection for the operator perhaps?

[Anonymous]

The new Bombardier bilevel cars are equipped with Crash Energy Management (CEM) elements, especially the cab cars at both ends.

According to FRA crashworthiness standards the car have corner post at the outside, collision post in the one-third and two-third points. On these post is a thick front plate. On top of the front plate are the CEM elements.

Additionally the cars have push-back couplers.

It is similar to the EMD F125 design: http://trainweb.org/carl/2017CaliforniaPassengerRailSummit/Slides/Tripoli/IMG_6241.JPG

The numbers need not be the same for the GO Transit cars.
Regards, Volker

[dh28473]

I wonder what it looks like inside the control cab?

[Anonymous]

Here is a link to an interakte website with the new cab car's desktop: http://www.trainweb.org/railwayop/ceminside.htm
Regards, Volker

[CMStPnP]

They look nice if you ask me.    Now lets start replacing the Chicago METRA fleet with the Bombardier cars.   

BTW, the Bombardier cars draw more HEP per trainset than the METRA locos can put out (probably due to the more advanced electronics on board) and I suspect that is one reason Chicago has stuck with the cattle cars.    I can just imagine the cost of upgrading all those HEP units across METRA and buying a new fleet of passenger cars.     At some point Chicago will need to modernize to a car that is more comfortable though.

[blue streak 1]

What is METRA's HEP output or are different units having different outputs.  Know the new Amtrak standard is 1000kW.

The cab cars look a lot like a loco.  Is there any reason why one could not be in middle of consist as long as some GO person in each section ?

[kgbw49]

I agree, CMStP. I think they are an aesthetic improvement over the Hyundal Rotems on Metrolink in So Cal, but that is just an opinion and aesthetically-pleasing is in the eye of the beholder.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/630821/

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/567072/

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Exteriors are fine and dandy if you're not a daily rider.  I have yet to see any interior shots.

I've been riding gallery bi-levels for over 35 years now and I've never had any problems regarding comfort.  I've even managed to sleep past my stop a couple of times.

[Anonymous]

Nothing easier than that.

2014 Bombardier bilevel, lower level, Interior (3): http://www.ttmg.org/pages/bombardier/go-bombardier.html

2015 Bombardier bilevel, upper level, Interior (5) on the same website or: https://www.railwaygazette.com/uploads/pics/tn_ca-metrolinx-doubledeck-interior.jpg
Regards, Volker

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Low ceilings are a definite negative as they give a tunnel effect.  Fixed seats facing each other can make for an uncomfortable ride unless you don't mind bouncing your knees against a stranger.  Walkover seats would be preferable.

[Anonymous]

CSSHEGEWISCH

Low ceilings are a definite negative as they give a tunnel effect.

I have ridden a lot of Bombardier bilevels in Germany. Being 6'-5'' high I never felt uncomfortable. I have never been on gallery car so I can't compare.

Our early ICE trains had walkover seats but they weren't used that much so they vanished.

So everybody has his own preferences.
Regards, Volker

Edit: It is a kind of seating common in all German subways and City Rails

[54light15]

Go Transit has had those cab cars for a few years now. The ones they replaced are totally gone. 

[ATSFGuy]

Gone, but not forgotten.

The flat ended ones that Metrolink used from October 26, 1992 - January 3, 2012 have either been sold to Caltrain or rebuilt into regular coaches.  I still remember what they looked like.