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Posted by Entropy on Monday, December 3, 2018 12:33 PM

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Looks like Quebec North Shore and Labrador (QNSL) is jumping in on the ex-BHP SD70ACe sale.  Saw one yesterday at Progress Rail Tacoma marked QNSL 524.  QNSL currently has 22 SD70ACe on their roster with the last batch arriving in 2013.

Cats out of the bag :)

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Posted by M636C on Monday, December 3, 2018 5:39 AM

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Although not likely maybe BHP would want them back ?  Is it  short  at least 4 locos or can it just postpone some retirements ?

 

The 13 units returned to the USA are the oldest units.

All the units in service are newer than those, 4314 to 4492 (or so) and they all have isolated cabs.

I think they can afford four new units and they probably don't need them until they get around 240 new cars. It isn't as if they are short of money. They are buying back some of my shares this month.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, December 2, 2018 7:53 PM

Although not likely maybe BHP would want them back ?  Is it  short  at least 4 locos or can it just postpone some retirements ?

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Posted by SooBoy61 on Sunday, December 2, 2018 12:34 PM

Looks like Quebec North Shore and Labrador (QNSL) is jumping in on the ex-BHP SD70ACe sale.  Saw one yesterday at Progress Rail Tacoma marked QNSL 524.  QNSL currently has 22 SD70ACe on their roster with the last batch arriving in 2013.

An interresting side note is that QNSL received 10 GE AC44/Dash9 units back in 2003 but their has been no sighting of them since 2013.  Wonder if the EMD units were built in London?

 

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Posted by M636C on Monday, November 19, 2018 7:50 PM

Since the Tier 4 regulations don't apply in Australia, BHP wouldn't buy any Tier 4 units. They are most likely to buy standard Tier 3 SD70ACe units, just like the ones they had before.

They probably need around four new units right now after their runaway....

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Posted by power58 on Monday, November 19, 2018 7:10 PM

Great info, no they looked used and paint was dull. 

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, November 19, 2018 7:07 PM

Sounds more like they're some of the early SD70ACe's that have been exported back to the US and which have been the topic of discussion in this thread.

I haven't seen these particular units, but I've seen several others with similar numbers like EMDX #2003 in weathered BHP paint with patched cab-side with white spray painted number and EMDX reporting marks. What I've seen sure weren't new Tier 4 SD70ACe-T4's heading to a sea port for export to BHP.

Did they look brand new? And if they are new units being exported, odd that they'd mar the side of the cabs with crude EMDX markings and number. 

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Posted by power58 on Monday, November 19, 2018 7:02 PM

My Friend Glenn shot the photos he had to get a long shot across route 17 in Kankakee the EMDX 1009 and EMDX 2001  are some great finds he has captured 

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Posted by power58 on Monday, November 19, 2018 6:56 PM

In the Kankakee Il. NS yard 11/16/18 saw EMDX 1009 and EMDX 2001 in BHP colors. The reporting marks were spray painted white.  By the Cab  had BHP Billiton Iron Ore. They were EMD Teir 4, are they headed to Auzzie land ?  

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, November 1, 2018 1:22 AM

NorthWest

Pictures have also surfaced of the first CFAQ unit, 1001 in service in Quebec with a PRLX ex-CSX unit.

http://railpictures.net/showphotos.php?railroad=Arnaud%20(Chemin%20de%20fer%20Arnaud)

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:57 AM

Pictures have also surfaced of the first CFAQ unit, 1001 in service in Quebec with a PRLX ex-CSX unit.

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Posted by Entropy on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:09 AM

MRL 4319 has entered service (was seen in Montana) that was once a BHP SD70ACe/LC, 4316, 4317, and 4318 should not be far behind.

 

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Posted by Bryan Jones on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:52 AM

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I know it's off-topic, but since it's the only other homeless SD70ACe that I'm aware of, does anyone know if anything has happened to CSX 4839 since being sold?

She was sold to NRE in 2016 with some chronic ailment that CSX shop forces couldn't figure out (I thought it went to LTEX which typically means parting out and scrapping for six axle SD's, but the BullSheet says NRE).

CSX of course retired the rest of the fleet a year or so later, but they went to Progress Rail and are being leased out. 12 of the 19 are on lease to Norfolk Southern right now and presumably all 19 will slowly follow the path of these BHP units in time, being reconditioned, updated, and resold to new owners.

 

 

CSX SD70ACe #4839 was indeed sold to LTEX and there are photos of it on LTEX property. As to what ultimately happens to it nobody knows. it could be sold, scrapped, It could sit in the backlot for years like so many other locomotives owned by LTEX.

the remaining CSX SD70ACe’s in the PRLX lease fleet will continue in service as lease units as long as there is a demand for them or until sold to an interested party. They will surely find permanent homes eventually just as the former BHP units are doing now.

 

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Posted by Entropy on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 7:11 AM

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Going to Tacoma as I recall.  I think the numbers were EMDX 3004 and 3010, still in BHP colors.  I wrote the numbers down in my time book, but it's in my locker at work.

One of the BHP engines had a nice modification I wish the rest of the SD70ACe variants had.  One thing, among others, I don't like is the rear end walk way.  There's not much footing going around the nose from the side to the rear because of the steps.  The one engine had a plate that slides out of a holder and over the steps.  They also have or have provisions for safety chains around the steps between the side and back railing.

Jeff  

 

Originally all of the BHP units were provided with folding service steps, so its a walkway from the service platform.

BHP also did a mod where they made a swing out service gate in the handrails on the side of the locomotive. Makes it lot easier getting on the loco than walking around from the long hood end for service work.

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Posted by Entropy on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 7:03 AM

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Jeff,

For MRL or CFAQ?

Thanks.

 

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Sunday, October 7, 2018 9:49 PM

I know it's off-topic, but since it's the only other homeless SD70ACe that I'm aware of, does anyone know if anything has happened to CSX 4839 since being sold?

She was sold to NRE in 2016 with some chronic ailment that CSX shop forces couldn't figure out (I thought it went to LTEX which typically means parting out and scrapping for six axle SD's, but the BullSheet says NRE).

CSX of course retired the rest of the fleet a year or so later, but they went to Progress Rail and are being leased out. 12 of the 19 are on lease to Norfolk Southern right now and presumably all 19 will slowly follow the path of these BHP units in time, being reconditioned, updated, and resold to new owners.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, October 7, 2018 9:16 PM

Thanks. Progress Rail Tacoma is doing the MRL conversions.

I wonder if those modifications will survive the process. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:51 PM

Going to Tacoma as I recall.  I think the numbers were EMDX 3004 and 3010, still in BHP colors.  I wrote the numbers down in my time book, but it's in my locker at work.

One of the BHP engines had a nice modification I wish the rest of the SD70ACe variants had.  One thing, among others, I don't like is the rear end walk way.  There's not much footing going around the nose from the side to the rear because of the steps.  The one engine had a plate that slides out of a holder and over the steps.  They also have or have provisions for safety chains around the steps between the side and back railing.

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, October 6, 2018 8:34 PM

Jeff,

For MRL or CFAQ?

Thanks.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, October 6, 2018 7:35 PM

jeffhergert

On one of my e-mail lists, someone reported spotting two ex-BHP engines at Marshalltown, IA.  The old M&StL shop is used by EMD, or whatever they call themselves now.  

Jeff 

 

Those 2 from Marshalltown are on the way (north)westward.  I had them in a train a couple of days ago.  I didn't go into the cabs but the conductor did.  He said one of them had been completely stripped, including the toilet.

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Posted by HR616 on Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:13 PM

The CFAQ units have also appeared (with their original cabs), and are currently headed north. 

Found this on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31385681@N02/30917591638/

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 AM

These units have started to appear in MRL colors. They retain the original non-isolated cabs.

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Posted by Trainzguy2472 on Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:11 AM

Ooh, extra cab comforts!  I hope they keep that in for the crews!Laugh

 
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Two of the ex-BHP Bilton SD70ACes have been spotted at Progress Rail Tacoma, WA, for conversion to North American standards. Rumor is they are destined for MRL. 

 

 

These are the thirteen without isolated cabs. They arrived as standard units, but had a lot of extra equipment added to the cabs, CD players, refrigerators and microwave ovens (they worked in really isolated areas and this was needed - you could be held in a siding with nothing in any direction for 100 miles).

Otherwise they had marker lights. Not much else non-standard.

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Posted by tm-pmg on Monday, August 6, 2018 12:55 PM

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Rumors are that a Canadian mining road might be getting four of these units. 

 

 

Yes four ex-BHP are at Mayfield for complete rebuilding for CFAQ in Sept-iles, Quebec 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, May 8, 2018 6:09 PM

On one of my e-mail lists, someone reported spotting two ex-BHP engines at Marshalltown, IA.  The old M&StL shop is used by EMD, or whatever they call themselves now.  

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, April 20, 2018 3:01 PM

Rumors are that a Canadian mining road might be getting four of these units. 

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Posted by SooBoy61 on Monday, April 9, 2018 5:59 PM

Looks like they will be numbered as an extention of the MRL 4300 series.  Saw three of them sitting outside of Progress Rail Tacoma this last week marked as 4316, 4317 and 4318.  The 4th one inside most likely.

Also looks like they will retain their original standard cab.

 

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:09 PM

I don't have picture but there are several on FB though in closed groups.

As for taking stuff off, anything the FRA doesn't like will be removed (probably the CDs as they are electronic devices) as well as anything uneccesary, as the FRA will require it be maintained in workable condition.

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:57 PM

caldreamer

OK, I understand that the BHP units have all of that extra equipment on them because of where they worked.  How much will it cost and who will pay to turn them into standard north american SD70ACe's?

 
You shouldn't need to take anything off unless you want to.
 
They were built in London as standard units with everythng in the usual place (except for the radiators being 6" lower). The actual radiators and fans are the same.
 
You could leave the CD player in place and just tell the crews not to use it if it was important that they not use it.
 
The marker lights can just be left turned off.
 
Shouldn't be a big problem.
 
Peter

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