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SD70ACe-T4 - does EMD actually have a T4 locomotive?

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Posted by carnej1 on Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:21 AM

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It'd be rated at 4500hp....
 

Is there a source for that?

I ask because the GEVO engine could technically have had a 4500 HP rating (the 16 cylinder version is rated between 5800-6000 HP depending on settings) but GE rated it at 4400 HP.

 Also there seem to be a few questions on this thread about whether ot not the 1010 is a "clean sheet of paper" desing but industry sources like "Railway Age" have clearly reported that it is derived from the 265H engine.

 Of course the GE GEVO has significant improvements compared the earlier HDL it was developed from, enough thet the manufacturer marketed it as a new engine line. So it makes sense that EMD is persuing a similiar strategy with the 1010.

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Posted by owlsroost on Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:02 AM
I didn't think they made any other sort (the main part of CAT that is, not EMD) Smile
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Posted by LensCapOn on Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:59 AM

But, But, Does CAT know anything about 4-Stroke engines?

 

 

 

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 9:37 PM

Thanks, guys, for the information.

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Posted by M636C on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:08 PM
Wizlish wrote the following post an hour ago:

Yes, 1010 is the (metric) cylinder displacement.  Give me some time and I'll look up the bore and stroke for you (but someone who knows the tech blindfolded will beat me to it).

My recollection is that the 265 was 265 bore (of course) by 300 stroke

That gives 16543 cubic centimetres = 1009.51 cubic inches....

So it is a 265 in one respect...

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 6:09 PM

Yes, 1010 is the (metric dimensions for inch volumetrics - thanks, Peter!) cylinder displacement.  Give me some time and I'll look up the bore and stroke for you (but someone who knows the tech blindfolded will beat me to it).

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 5:36 PM

I'm not either, I am just interested in whether or not the 1010 represents the cylinder displacement in the new prime mover.

Regarding designation, EMD sort of put themselves in a tight spot. 80 and 90 series models were built, and they probably don't want to go to the 100 series, so 70 it stays.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:51 PM
It'd be rated at 4500hp....

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Posted by carnej1 on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:30 PM

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They've not changed the name of the locomotive tho, a 4-stroke SD70? Never...

 

A continuation of EMD's campaign to befuddle railfans; after all the SD75 model was superceded by SD70 variants with the same power rating...I agree though, it really should be an SD89Ace except what if they rated the engine at 4300 HP rather than 4500? Would that make it an SD88?

 

 

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 12:08 PM

They've not changed the name of the locomotive tho, a 4-stroke SD70? Never...

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Posted by carnej1 on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:32 AM

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First I had heard that the new engine was going to be the 1010. Interesting.

 

I'm not surprised that they are marketing the 265-H derivative with a new engine series name.

After all, GE chose to name their HDL evolved engine the GEVO series rather than an calling it an "HDL plus" or whatever..

After all both the HDL and 265 series engines were not widely accepted by the railroad industry, at least in North America.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, September 9, 2015 5:29 AM

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:51 PM

First I had heard that the new engine was going to be the 1010. Interesting.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:59 PM

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September 2015 issue of Railway Age on page 36 is a Progress Rail Services advertizement for an SD70ACe-T4 locomotive featuring an EMD 12 cylinder 1010 engine, AC traction, etc, etc.  What gives? Guess I've been in a fog or something, thought they were way behind GE?

They are.  GE is delivering production T4 engines to multiple carriers as we speak.

EMD is projecting 2017 for their T4 locomotive deliveries.

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SD70ACe-T4 - does EMD actually have a T4 locomotive?
Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:07 PM

September 2015 issue of Railway Age on page 36 is a Progress Rail Services advertizement for an SD70ACe-T4 locomotive featuring an EMD 12 cylinder 1010 engine, AC traction, etc, etc.  What gives? Guess I've been in a fog or something, thought they were way behind GE?

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