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Posted by garyla on Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:47 AM

For a parallel in the automotive world, this is like taking one of those great-looking old Jaguars, removing the troublesome, expensive-to-maintain, long-stroke engine, and replacing it with a small-block Chevrolet V-8.

To some purists, it's a crime, but you get a beautiful machine that is now reliable.

If I ever met a train I didn't like, I can't remember when it happened!
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Posted by jsphoto on Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:00 AM
I believe NYC also had on PB re-engined in their shops. It was not duplicated
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Posted by CPM500 on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:40 PM

D&H PA arrived on D&H with 16-244 engines. Re-engined by MK w/ 12-251's.

MKT, RI  & FRISCO FAs were done EMD.

MOPAC RS-11's were done EMD.

CR(PC) did a whole bunch of RS-3's with surplus 12-567s.  AMTK did a handful.

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Posted by mmm1000 on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:16 PM

Isn't this one of the PAs that was sold to D&H?

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Posted by CPM500 on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:34 AM

In the late '50s, GE proposed a PA upgrade program that was adopted by both ATSF and SP. This program centered upon an upgrade/simplification of the controls.

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Posted by erikem on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:53 AM

Looks like the old SDG&E plant near the Santa Fe depot.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:40 PM

erikem

The AT&SF had their first PA re-engined with a 567, though it took a hit in power.

Dug around and was able to find this:

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:23 PM

erikem

The AT&SF had their first PA re-engined with a 567, though it took a hit in power.

All three of 'em, wasn't it?  (51A-51B-51L)
1750hp doesn't look like 'that' much derating, but oh, brother, does it hurt at higher speed!
At least it wouldn't break cranks and all that...
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Posted by erikem on Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:11 PM

The AT&SF had their first PA re-engined with a 567, though it took a hit in power.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:11 PM

Are you thinking of FAs?  I know of one NYC PB (booster) that was done at Collinwood in the late '50s.   'Christine' was the previous generation of Alco passenger power (DL-109, with the 'streetcar motors' that so mortified the Santa Fe people)

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PA reengining
Posted by mmm1000 on Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:01 PM

I seem to remember reading somewhere that some Alco PA's were reengined with EMD 567's any truth to this??

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