M636CDoes anyone know whose FA-1s were used in the movie?
Hard to tell with a B&W film, but looking at the paint scheme on the FA-1 I suspect it's a Southern Pacific locomotive with a ficticious 'road name applied.
Espee and the Santa Fe were typically the "go-to" railroads for Hollywood in those days when they needed some contemporary railroad action.
Oh yeah, that was one hell of a long-distance run all right, but I'll bet it was a fun trip!
M636C Juniatha Did anybody mention this film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniBSbF42XI Its an interesting document of the time of change over from steam to diesel and it's an interesting document of the society then ... sort of frightening. Juniatha That's a long distance train in the opening sequence... It runs across the bridge at Harper's Ferry West Virginia on the B&O and stops in Albuquerque New Mexico, passing a Pennsylvania steam hauled freight on the way.... Does anyone know whose FA-1s were used in the movie? I was surprised that they took the A unit off the train leaving the B unit coupled when they ran to the locomotive depot, but I guess the turntable couldn't take the two units and for once they thought of continuity... Peter
Juniatha Did anybody mention this film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniBSbF42XI Its an interesting document of the time of change over from steam to diesel and it's an interesting document of the society then ... sort of frightening. Juniatha
Did anybody mention this film?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniBSbF42XI
Its an interesting document of the time of change over from steam to diesel and it's an interesting document of the society then ... sort of frightening.
Juniatha
That's a long distance train in the opening sequence...
It runs across the bridge at Harper's Ferry West Virginia on the B&O and stops in Albuquerque New Mexico, passing a Pennsylvania steam hauled freight on the way....
Does anyone know whose FA-1s were used in the movie? I was surprised that they took the A unit off the train leaving the B unit coupled when they ran to the locomotive depot, but I guess the turntable couldn't take the two units and for once they thought of continuity...
Peter
Don't overlook the ACL passenger train it passed on the way during the opening.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
"Streets of San Francisco" is classic TV! I loved that show!
54light15: you wrote >>"Human Desire" is a yet another great film from Fritz Lang- It was originally made in France in 1938, called "La Bete Humaine" with the legendary Jean Gabin. <<
Yes, but that is a totally different film and a different story: the French film tells of a sexual pervert who is shown as a victim himself of his overwhelming dark desires, the other film tells the decline of just a violent husband as there were so many at that time, one more, one less, but all despotic in one way or another.
Excuse if I write this so, I understand if not everybody is prepared to take this. But it shows how the whole society was built on standards that not many lived up to. Pretending that everything is fine and there is nothing to worry about was a thing so widespread, it was in no way better in Germany and it goes on in Turkey and India and the like states where women are now standing up even risking their lives! That our societies have developed on has not come easy.
In the Highway Patrol series, they have a simple two-way scheme: there are either the police which to 100% are the 'good guys' or there are the gangsters who clearly are the 'bad guys' and behave accordingly. That one episode "Blind deaf" where the wife of the bad guy protects that 10 years old against her husband is one rare break in the scheme. But the quintessence it tells to people so inclined is not good: show human behavior and you get caught!
The best series of that kind of stories to me still is "Streets of San Francisco" with Karl Malden and Michael Douglas. It puts up a picture of more colors and shades.
Sara 05003
I have three seasons of Highway Patrol on DVD. It's funny how the bad guys always drive convertibles and never once do they put their suitcases in the trunk, but always on the back seat. It's been discussed in another thread how whatever you see of southern California in the series doesn't exist anymore by being paved over for freeways and housing developments.
"Human Desire" is a yet another great film from Fritz Lang- It was originally made in France in 1938, called "La Bete Humaine" with the legendary Jean Gabin. It's written up in Trains magazine's "100 Greatest Train Movies" from a few years ago.
Sara TBroderick Crawford is said to have been a real boozer, in the series 'Highway Patrol' of the 1950s he is said at times to have been too drunk to play his role.
Oh yeah, Broderick Crawford loved his liquor all right. In fact, when doing "Highway Patrol" his drivers license had been suspended due to drunk driving charges so the only driving he could do on the series was on private roads.
I doubt there were times he was too drunk to play his role though, Hollywood would put up with just about anything from popular actors in those days but not unreliability. They could do just about anything off the set but when filming time came they had to be ready to go to work. Delays in production cost money, an unforgivable sin. Being unreliable killed a lot of star's careers and still does.
Juni >>an interesting document of the society then ... sort of frightening.<<
Ohh-jee, ach-du-liebe-Zeit! That subdued, then outbreaking violence! I just saw a part of it then had enough! Society has advanced since then, still we should be glad we have become so tall we are not in that awful situation as those women were back then.
Broderick Crawford is said to have been a real boozer, in the series 'Highway Patrol' of the 1950s he is said at times to have been too drunk to play his role. But fast speaking like a diesel motor always seems to have worked. Hard for me to follow. The series episodes are funny in that they only ran for 1/2 hour, so the criminals, all dressed in correct business suits and ties, were still a bit naive.
These are two episodes which involve a train:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTN9fgl2qpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDA3p-Fm2eo
I prefer Broderick Crawford much better in this role! And I like those fanciful cars! With fins like mad, can't believe it! And the soft suspension, wowwh!
ORNHOO Flintlock76 Cool! I was a regular viewer of "Combat!" It took me a while to find this, but the "generic french village set" on the studio back lot they used all the time included the "generic french railway station set" seen in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGqMR02eeQk It was later available for this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c
Flintlock76 Cool! I was a regular viewer of "Combat!"
It took me a while to find this, but the "generic french village set" on the studio back lot they used all the time included the "generic french railway station set" seen in this episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGqMR02eeQk
It was later available for this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c
That's an interesting film set...
In the shot at 0:24 in the "Combat" video the cars on the right hand side of the screen appear to match those in the Bee Gees clip, but on the left side of the screen there is a generic British passenger car. I have seen similar mock ups used in pre WWII "Sherlock Holmes" movies among others...
This is a good one- "Grand Central Murder" from 1942 with Van Heflin and Sam Levene. A snappy whodunit set in a private car and among the platforms of GCT. I think it's mostly done on film sets but those NYC electric locos are cruising around. Well worth seeing!
Flintlock76Cool! I was a regular viewer of "Combat!"
Sometimes ya gotta wallow in the trash. Pick any Russ Meyer movie but there's no trains in them but still, a lot to look at!
54light15 Here's one. "The Valley of the Dolls" from 1967. Total trash but still sort of worth seeing. They keep telling you that it's set in Connecticut but it features a New York Central commuter train which I think is shown at Mount Kisco on the Harlem Valley line. At that time there was service all the way to Millerton, if not further North.
Here's one. "The Valley of the Dolls" from 1967. Total trash but still sort of worth seeing. They keep telling you that it's set in Connecticut but it features a New York Central commuter train which I think is shown at Mount Kisco on the Harlem Valley line. At that time there was service all the way to Millerton, if not further North.
Oh yeah, the movies total trash all right, but there's some nice run-bys of that NYC commuter train with an RS-3 on the head end!
Forget the rest of it. Although Barbara Parkins was a hottie though!
Maybe not all that far off as most of the people commuting to NYC from CT were headed to Grand Central Terminal.
Hey, that 4-4-0 in the "Combat!" episode?
Leave it to "Magic Mike," our incomperable "Wanswheel," to find out its history! And here it is:
http://www.virginiaandtruckee.com/Locomotive/No11.htm
https://trn.trains.com/railroads/railroad-history/2010/07/virginia-and-truckee
Once I knew who it was I was able to find this:
https://locomotive.fandom.com/wiki/Virginia_and_Truckee_No._11_Reno#:~:text=Virginia%20%26%20Truckee%20Railroad%20No.,specifically%20to%20pull%20passenger%2
Thanks Mike!
My father had an 1903 Springfield- He let me fire it at the rifle range. Once. I was ten years old and never asked again. I was happy to use his .22s after that. I vaguely recall that episode you mention, it's sure been a long time since I watched that show.
54light15I never saw that episode of Combat either.
Do you remember the one called "The Doughboy?" Eddie Albert guest starred as a WW1 veteran who stayed in France after the war (Fell in love with a local girl. ) then when the second war comes has a flashback to 1918? He goes out to fight the "Heinies" in his WW1 uniform complete with his 1903 Springfield. That episode gave me a fascination with the First World War that's lasted to this day. It made me want an '03 Springfield too, but at 10 years old that was out of the question!
I did get an '03 many years later. Still have it too!
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I never saw that episode of Combat either. Funny how Europe looks so much like Southern California. Same goes for the Europe-set episodes of the old Mission Impossible. Whenever a show was set in, say, England, they'd break out the London taxi, a left-hand drive Rolls-Royce and a Citroen van that looked like it was made out of a garden shed.
Possibly, but I think continuity probably had a lot more to do with it. It's a lot easier for the film editors to put the final print together if the principals look the same all the time, or at least most of the time.
54light15 Well, I was only guessing about MST. But in the original, there sure were a lot of spiffy fedoras that got mussed up, don't you think?
Well, I was only guessing about MST. But in the original, there sure were a lot of spiffy fedoras that got mussed up, don't you think?
Absolutely! And who dresses up like that to ride the subways now? Different day and age.
Cool! I was a regular viewer of "Combat!" but I don't remember this episode.
Anyway, it's obviously an American 4-4-0 locomotive, something more appropriate for a Western than a WW2 drama. At the time this series was filmed (early 1960's) some Hollywood studios still had antique railroad equipment on hand, and wouldn't start selling it off until around 1970 or so.
That particular engine might be part of the collection at the Nevada State Railroad Museum now, I believe some of their stock did come from Hollywood.
Does anyone happen to know which locomotive this is in this episode of 'Combat!'?
https://youtu.be/dvjM4SwBHAA?t=1900
Oh brother, that lame "King Kong" remake from 1976!
Man, if you're a film-maker and you can't top the original, or even come close, don't bother! Spare us!
No, that's not "Mystery Science Theater" with those comments, "MST" never allowed potty words!
That Godzilla theme was awesome! Don't mess with the big guy!
King Kong didn't like trains too much either- one is the colourised original, the other is a remake and judging from the spoken comments on that one, it must be from the late, great Mystery Science Theatre 3000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwgdgD_BDHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03HxctDYuU
It's so much better in the original Japanese! A much darker version than the one with Raymond Burr, God rest his soul!
By the way, according to the Japanese Godzilla only chews on trains when he's very annoyed. Otherwise, Godzilla only eats fish.
And you just know Big G's a hero in Japan when he gets this treatment from the Tokyo Philharmonic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeU42u2s2Y
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