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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:09 AM

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Personal hygiene is a relatively recent phenomenon. 100+ years ago people didn't bathe daily, brush their teeth, and deodorant and other hygiene products were simply not available. The good old days.. bad teeth and horrible BO.. on trains and everywhere else. 

 

 

Lifebuoy Soap radio ads from the '30s were famous for the "B.O." foghorn, so the shift in personal hygeine was definitely taking place by 1930. I would suspect that air conditioned trains also helped as people weren't sweating as much in transit.

 

In childhood,  I recall a character in the Dick Tracy cartoon called B.O. Plenty. 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:14 AM

The Chicago Tribune still carries Dick Tracy, and B O Plenty and his daughter Sparkle turn up every now and again.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:38 AM

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The Chicago Tribune still carries Dick Tracy, and B O Plenty and his daughter Sparkle turn up every now and again.

 

The depiction of B.O. Plenty gives the impression that he is not careful about personal hygiene; among other matters, he has never combed his beard.

Incidentally, "Dick Tracy" must be stuck in time; seventy years ago, B.O. was not a young man. Are Junior Tracy and Sparkle still around? I have not see the strip for perhaps fifty years.

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Posted by 54light15 on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:36 PM

Dick Tracy is still being published? I haven't seen it in many years. I stopped reading it when the characters were flying around in space in spacecraft that looked like garbage cans. The original strips done by Chester Gould could be pretty violent, sort of a comic strip version of Warner Brothers gangster movies of the 1930s. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:26 PM

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Dick Tracy is still being published? I haven't seen it in many years. I stopped reading it when the characters were flying around in space in spacecraft that looked like garbage cans. The original strips done by Chester Gould could be pretty violent, sort of a comic strip version of Warner Brothers gangster movies of the 1930s. 

 

It's Dick Tracy in name only.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:27 PM

As a kid, Dick Tracy was on the front page of the four page color Sunday comics in our paper.  The cartoonist had great criminals in the strip.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:46 PM

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As a kid, Dick Tracy was on the front page of the four page color Sunday comics in our paper.  The cartoonist had great criminals in the strip.

 

I remember those full-page Sunday comics in the New York Daily News decades back, and "Dick Tracy" was one of them.

Chester Gould was still alive at the time, and he drew criminals the way he always did, all the criminals were ugly.  Stood to reason, crime was ugly, and Gould didn't glamorize it.  And when a villian was killed the last you saw of him was stretched out on a mortuary slab.  

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 8:03 PM

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Dick Tracy is still being published? I haven't seen it in many years. I stopped reading it when the characters were flying around in space in spacecraft that looked like garbage cans. The original strips done by Chester Gould could be pretty violent, sort of a comic strip version of Warner Brothers gangster movies of the 1930s. 

 

 

 

It's Dick Tracy in name only.

 

Does it feature Junior and Sparkle's geandchildren or great-grandchildren?

As I recall, the strip" Gasoline Alley", was the only one I saw which had the characters aging.

Cookie Bumstead was born about 1941 or 1942--she and Alexander ("Baby Dumpling") are still teenagers.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:03 AM

There is a Canadian strip called "For Better Or Worse" that's carried by the Tribune in which the characters are aging.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:17 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

There is a Canadian strip called "For Better Or Worse" that's carried by the Tribune in which the characters are aging.

 

Wonderful strip!  And it's actually in it's second go-'round.  The creator, Lynn Johnston, wrapped up the first story line in 2008, then decided to re-boot not long afterward and do the Patterson family story again.  And yes, the strip does place in "real-time" and the characters age.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:34 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
There is a Canadian strip called "For Better Or Worse" that's carried by the Tribune in which the characters are aging.

 

She also sticks in railroad themes every so often since her husband was a model railroader!

Here's her page with the strip running each day.  If you go back through the archives, you can find some of the model railroad strips:

https://fborfw.com/

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:01 AM

Is Gasoline Alley still being published? It's funny how the characters age but still, Skeezix has to be over 100 years old and Walt has got to be about 130! If they are both still in the strip, that is. But Calvin and Hobbes never get old! Cripes, I miss that strip but I do have all the books and still laugh my head off. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:10 AM

"Gasolene Alley" is indeed still being published!  I only get to see it when traveling out-of-state, the local paper doesn't carry it.

I sure miss "Calvin and Hobbes" as well, but I think it hit its zenith with...

"The Attack Of The Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goons!"

Really!  Now how do you top that?

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:11 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

There is a Canadian strip called "For Better Or Worse" that's carried by the Tribune in which the characters are aging.

 

Yes, I had forgotten about it; the local paper stopped carrying it too many years ago. I enjoyed reading it.

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:19 PM

Remember- "Snow goons are bad news." Words of wisdom! 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:36 PM

Flintlock76

"Gasolene Alley" is indeed still being published!  I only get to see it when traveling out-of-state, the local paper doesn't carry it.

I sure miss "Calvin and Hobbes" as well, but I think it hit its zenith with...

"The Attack Of The Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goons!"

Really!  Now how do you top that?

 

Some of your favorite comics are as close as your computer.

https://www.gocomics.com/comics/a-to-z

https://www.comicskingdom.com

These two sites have many comics, including some no longer being produced and political comics.  I have my favorites that I check everyday.  I started using it after local papers dropped some favorites.  

The gocomics site does have more than it's share of ads.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:38 PM

The Far Side has finally made it to the web.

https://www.thefarside.com/

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by 54light15 on Friday, January 31, 2020 11:03 AM

Intersting, the gocomics site. I see L'il Abner and Alley Oop, but it doesn't list Pogo, Terry and the Pirates or Steve Canyon. The most important oversight is the first comic strip ever, Hogan's Alley by Richard F. Outcault. Hogan's Alley introduced "The Yellow Kid " to the world as the first real comic strip character in 1895. 

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 2:57 PM

Ulrich

Personal hygiene is a relatively recent phenomenon. 100+ years ago people didn't bathe daily, brush their teeth, and deodorant and other hygiene products were simply not available. The good old days.. bad teeth and horrible BO.. on trains and everywhere else. 

 

 
Back in 2010 when Russell Crowe's version of "Robin Hood" came out, the History Channel had a two-hour special referring to it and explaining how it more correctly depicted Medieval life than earlier films. I can't think of his name, but the host was the films technical advisor, who has been in several History Channel programs out the Middle Ages.
 
They pointed out that, for example, 1000 years ago people could buy white "Castillian" soap that is still available today, or make their own, since soap can be made from natural items typically found on a farm. People added things like flower petals to their home-made soap to make it smell nice.
 
They had natural plants they could use to brush their teeth with - which they did regularly. People often only had one set of clothes, so normally washed them every night and hung them up to dry by the fire. (That's where we get the deal of Santa leaving gifts in stockings hanging by the fireplace.)
 
BTW the Amish apparently make a very good 'all natural' soap....
 
Anyway, I'm old enough to have known people born in the 1880's. They weren't any different than us now.
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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:01 PM

54light15
Also, regarding flush toilets- they were invented by one Thomas Crapper in England.

He didn't actually invent them, they'd been around for about 50 years. Crapper was apparently the biggest producer and installer of "water closets" in Britain, and he did make some refinements that made them work better than prior ones.

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Posted by NKP guy on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:24 AM

54light15: "Also, regarding flush toilets- they were invented by one Thomas Crapper in England."

wjstix: "He didn't actually invent them, they'd been around for about 50 years. Crapper was apparently the biggest producer and installer of "water closets" in Britain, and he did make some refinements that made them work better than prior ones." 

 

   This British company is still in business and highly sought after by people restoring fine houses.

https://www.thomas-crapper.com

 

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 3:35 PM

As Tessio said, 'They have the old fashioned toilet, the box with the chain thing. We could tape the gun behind that." 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:15 PM

54light15

As Tessio said, 'They have the old fashioned toilet, the box with the chain thing. We could tape the gun behind that." 

 

I actually ran into one of those!  About thirty years ago I was repairing a copier in one of Virginia Commonwealth University's offices, it was in an old mansion on West Franklin Street here in Richmond.

Finished the job and needed to wash up, went into a men's room and there it was!  "Wow!" I said to myself, "Mom told me about those!  They had one in the apartment she grew up in in Manhattan!"

Needless to say I didn't pass up a chance to experience a bit of history.   Wink

Hey, Teddy Roosevelt might have used that thing!

Remembering an old Bill Cosby routine about pull-chain toilets before I pulled the handle I muttered...

"Torpedo los!"  

Living history, you can't beat it!

 

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:49 PM

Remember the Maine!  To hell with Spain!  And don't forget to pull the chain!

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, February 7, 2020 8:07 AM

Back in 1948, when I went to the wedding of one of my brothers, in West Virginia, I found, in the bride's home, one with a plunger that you pushed. The water was supplied through a ram a hill or two away. No, the ram was not one of the sheep that they raised.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, February 7, 2020 9:34 AM

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The water was supplied through a ram a hill or two away. No, the ram was not one of the sheep that they raised.

Nor was it a Dodge truck with a pump belted to a raised wheel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram

My 1976 Eldorado had an analogue of this for its ride leveling: engine vacuum rprovided thrust for a simple reciprocating air pump.  It could produce surprising pressure, if you gave it long enough to run ... until the little rubber dome diaphragm in it went bad.

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Posted by wjstix on Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:09 PM

Back to the original post/issue, I have to wonder if someone from c.1920 were brought into the present day, if they wouldn't be amazed at how sloppy and unkempt people are today. My parents were teenagers in the 1930's, and recalled how boys wore shirts and ties to schools, and of course girls only wore outfits with skirts. I was just reading where someone was talking about how in the 1940's his grandfather wore a suit and tie to ride the streetcar to his job as a steelworker. At the plant, he changed into work clothes, then took a shower and put his suit back on for the trip home. Many railroaders did something similar.

Schools taught classes covering things like manners and behavior. Our ideas of 'do your own thing' and asking your kids to pretty please stop doing whatever they doing wrong didn't exist. 

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, February 10, 2020 9:11 AM

Regarding steelworkers, I've seen in movies how workers didn't have lockers for thier street clothes but would hook them onto a chain thing and hoist them upwards to hang. Was that for real? Are there any places like that? Maybe it was in "The Deer Hunter" I saw that, I don't really recall but I did see more than once the chain arrangement. 

In the movie, "I Am a Fugitive From a Chain Gang," near the end, Paul Muni is not just playing a criminal bum, but a tie-wearing criminal bum. 

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Posted by York1 on Monday, February 10, 2020 9:19 AM

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in the 1930's, and recalled how boys wore shirts and ties to schools, and of course girls only wore outfits with skirts.

 

I'm old, but not that old!

In the 1950s and early 60s, girls in my school wore skirts.  On very cold days, they would wear pants under their skirts!  If I remember high school, by the late sixties, girls had switched almost completely to pants.

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