Since Howard Johnson's name was mentioned: Does anyone else recall (and miss) their Fried Clam Strips? Mmmmm Mmmmm!
54light15 Backshop- the same for Buddy's. I'm in Plymouth Michigan every summer for the Concours of America car show and I will be trying their dogs!
Backshop- the same for Buddy's. I'm in Plymouth Michigan every summer for the Concours of America car show and I will be trying their dogs!
Ah yes, HoJo's "clams fried to order" which meant that if you didn't order fried clams, you didn't get fried clams. How many ways were there to fly clams? Only one that I'm aware of.
"Pop"- that's what Canadians and Western New Yorkers call soda. We went camping near Salamanca, New York in 1969 and these girls we met called it, "Pahhp." A regional accent I guess.
It's "pop" here in Michigan, too. My wife is from Southern California and it's "soda" to her. Since it's not important and I'm a good husband, I let her think that she is right!
Time for a "True Tale Of The Marine Corps."
One day the troops were having an argument over the proper terminology for soft drinks, and indeed it depends on what part of the country you're from.
"It's soda pop!"
"It's pop!"
"It's SODA POP!"
"IT'S POP! "
So in frustration, they turned to me...
"Say Lieutenant, what is it? Pop or soda pop?"
I looked at the group, and gravely answered in my best New Jersey accent...
"It's SO-dah!"
Didn't help.
Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk
Flintlock76"It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me...
And you in command track, in a military situation, and you didn't remember your military-industrial dictionary?
"Carbonated beverage, counter-dipsotic, OTS" might be a 'promising' start. Then add the particular encapsulation, transport, and imbibition-option modalities appropriate to the instantiation.
Just remember, on the box a Creamsicle is a 'quiescently frozen confection'.
Overmod Flintlock76 "It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me... And you in command track, in a military situation, and you didn't remember your military-industrial dictionary? "Carbonated beverage, counter-dipsotic, OTS" might be a 'promising' start. Then add the particular encapsulation, transport, and imbibition-option modalities appropriate to the instantiation. Just remember, on the box a Creamsicle is a 'quiescently frozen confection'.
Flintlock76 "It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me...
Nah, Marines don't have time for all that BS, we leave it to the Army.
Or the Air Force. The Navy we're never sure of.
If we want to elaborate or add emphasis we insert the "F-Bomb" or a variant thereof in the appropriate location.
Now this is a true story...
One day I was working in the gun shop and two guys came in who worked for the Popsicle Corporation in the quality control department, so I just had to ask...
"Hey guys, just what is the proper pronunciation of this product of yours, 'Fudge-sicle,' or 'Fuggical?'"
"Well, it's supposed to be 'Fudge-sicle, but at the office everyone calls them 'Fuggicals!'"
So there you have it, right from Popsicle Co.'s head office!
I never cared for Creamsicles, every one I ever bought seemed to melt in 30 seconds. I've three O gauge cars for the "Suger High Express" under the Christmas tree, Popsicle, Fudgesicle, and Creamsicle, but I only bought the Creamsicle car to keep the collection complete.
54light15 Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk
I guess it'll work all right, as long as everyone stays on the outrigger side.
If anyone around here says soda pop, soda or pop we usually assume they're not locals. Usually it's soft drink, but sometimes Coke is used to mean any kind of soft drink.
"What kinda coke ya want?"
"Gimme an orange."
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
Flintlock76 54light15 Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk I guess it'll work all right, as long as everyone stays on the outrigger side.
One nice thing is that the track people don't have to maintain the gauge too accurately.
Paul of Covington If anyone around here says soda pop, soda or pop we usually assume they're not locals. Usually it's soft drink, but sometimes Coke is used to mean any kind of soft drink. "What kinda coke ya want?" "Gimme an orange."
Now that's what I've heard, get to certain places down South and the word "Coke" is a generic term for any soft drink.
Make sense. "Coca-Cola" has been called "Southern Holy Water."
Wow! One rail and a balancing wheel! That's a new one by me!
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
NKP guySince Howard Johnson's name was mentioned:
It's just not Christmas without Lionel and a 50's layout isn't complete without a HoJo's by the Turnpike!
Becky, that's a great kitbash of the Plasticville school and motel!
My complements!
And it goes without saying your Christmas layout's a stunner!
Penny TrainsWow! One rail and a balancing wheel! That's a new one by me!
It actually makes much better sense when the British do it. This is Thorold's idea from just after the Civil War when British road going powered vehicles were anathema.
The idea is to have one rail, and it can be fairly heavy, with a double-flanged wheel running on it to center, as the curb of a road. No curving resistance to speak of, and you could use a pipe rail or even logs if you wanted.
The offside wheel has only about 5% of the weight, just enough to preclude tipping over due to 'centrifugal force' or unbalanced load, and of course it runs on the road pavement. With that kind of loading even dirt or gravel would work, and pneumatic or rubber tires were known and might provide enough relatively damped suspension compliance to give quiet road running. (I'd use a long spring and rubber block isolators).
The Patiala system is taken from W.J. Ewing's adaptation, which is more like a narrow-gauge railway with only one side 'railed'. Only the center rail needs anything like precise lining and surface, which in the telephoto video it kind of isn't getting. Ewing puts the rail centered and uses a very narrow 'towpath' to the side as pictured for a dedicated ROW.
There is no reason why this would not work for electric streetcars, with one rail in the street perhaps close to the curb as the electrical return. Penny could try this out when she builds the Boynton Bicycle train for around the top of her tree...
Penny TrainsIt's just not Christmas without Lionel and a 50's layout isn't complete without a HoJo's by the Turnpike!
Thank you Penny Trains! I genuflect before your beautiful layout.
And I think I can smell the fried clams and hot dogs from here!
Somewhere in France was a fairly new streetcar system that had one guide rail, pantographs and the vehicles ran on rubber tires on the streets. I've heard that there were so many problems with it, they gave up and made it run on two rails. Can't recall the name of the town.
NKP guy Penny Trains It's just not Christmas without Lionel and a 50's layout isn't complete without a HoJo's by the Turnpike! Thank you Penny Trains! I genuflect before your beautiful layout. And I think I can smell the fried clams and hot dogs from here!
Penny Trains It's just not Christmas without Lionel and a 50's layout isn't complete without a HoJo's by the Turnpike!
Thanks!
I'll give you the silent teaser for the really big layout!
54light15Somewhere in France was a fairly new streetcar system that had one guide rail, pantographs and the vehicles ran on rubber tires on the streets.
I think you are talking about the Bombardier GLT (guided light transit) system in Caen, which is supposedly being rebuilt as dual-rail. It was apparently called the Twisto system. The guide rail doubled as the return for electric overhead, but wasn't used as a load-bearing (or friction-reducing) element. One of the problems is that the engineers didn't figure out the need for slow jitter in the steering, so the vehicles ran exactly in the same track, over and over, until the pavement began to deteriorate in the 'ruts'. That took the bloom off the rose; apparently either the Caen management or Bombardier couldn't figure out the simple solutions to this, and now it's being rebuilt to more conventional rail-bearing configuration.
There is another system operating in Nancy that is interesting for a different reason. Their buses are both electric and diesel. Apparently they do not use the single rail as a return, as in Caen, but operate about 60% of the route steered by the rail. Away from it (or the double overhead) they run on diesel and are steered with a conventional wheel. Here is an early story with some of the 'complications' and details of the system. (TVR is the French acronym for the GLT system).
Translohr is the other system that does this sort of thing. They apparently can't figure out slow-speed jitter or periodic offset adjustment either.
It doesn't pay to mix road transport and rail transport. Streetcars run on tracks, buses run on roads. I see it here on roads served only by buses, the asphalt builds up into a big curved lump as they turn in and out at the bus stops and the term here is "bus knuckle." The road surface can get quite distorted from buses turning in at the exact same spots many times in the course of a day. But I guess that would happen anywhere.
There was a bus stop on Eglinton Avenue as I recall where the asphalt was pushed over into the curb and rose higher than the curb eventually. That made the newspapers and the TTC was pressured to sort it out, which they did.
I guess this qualifies as a monorail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Jnn2NaBMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSp9xvE_H_Y&t=239s
I've been to the Amberly museum several times. It's a former chalk mine and has a 24 inch gauge railway throughout the grounds. Open-cab steam locomotives and such. There's a lot of stuff to see like trench locomotives from the first world war. It's not far from London out of Waterloo station and is a "grand day out" as Wallace and Gromit would say.
It certainly does. Operationally it's much like the Listowel and Ballybunion principle (see the lateral stabilizing wheels) without the need for 'pannier' balance, and running on what is a nonsymmetrical-vertical=section I beam instead of a raised set of rails attached to frames.
Note the somewhat ad hoc leveling arrangements for the track, reminiscent of some forms of scaffolding. That is probably a legacy of the system's design as a construction-site tramway (for relatively even traversal of what may be extremely rutted and unstabilized ground via tracks easily taken up and repositioned).
Note that this kind of track is also tailor-made for an entirely-above-the-rail Brennan system, and indeed in the first part of the video I thought there was going to be some counterrotating gyroscope setup in that black 'box' on the vehicle chassis...
Hey, isn't the motor in that Bugs-Bunny-like shooting-gallery rig the same thing that would power a three-wheel Morgan?
Bus and truck tearing up asphalt as described is ongoing. The only real cure is to make it all concrete very thick and at least 7000# or greater making it much stronger than normal. Ga DOT repaved a road here recently . At a traffic light at bottom of small hill the pavement has already become wash board and getting worse.
blue streak 1 Bus and truck tearing up asphalt as described is ongoing. The only real cure is to make it all concrete very thick and at least 7000# or greater making it much stronger than normal. Ga DOT repaved a road here recently . At a traffic light at bottom of small hill the pavement has already become wash board and getting worse.
Has anyone ever figured out exactly how washboard is formed on roads?
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CSSHEGEWISCHconcrete pads in high-volume bus stops.
Here in North Texas where a good portion of the streets are concrete. After a rain, concrete can be as slippery as black ice when it has a heavy rubber and oil residue on it near stop lights. Not sure how that is going to work with a bus stop.
Overmod- Morgans were powered by Matchless V-twin motorcycle engines, or J.A.P. (Joseph A. Prestwich) V-twins or Anzani V-twins. The last orignal ones built in the early 50s had a small Ford 4-cylinder engine. The one you see here is a Matchless- It's a jewel, isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-6C6TfK1DI
Recall the motorcycle in the opening of "Lawrence of Arabia?" That was J.A.P. powered. I know, too much information, but I love Morgans!
I've read how on the L & B monorail that if a farmer loaded a cow onto one of the cars, he would bring two sheep to balance on the other side. Unload the cow and put one sheep on either side to keep the balance on the return trip.
54light15 I've read how on the L & B monorail that if a farmer loaded a cow onto one of the cars, he would bring two sheep to balance on the other side. Unload the cow and put one sheep on either side to keep the balance on the return trip.
CSSHEGEWISCH 54light15 I've read how on the L & B monorail that if a farmer loaded a cow onto one of the cars, he would bring two sheep to balance on the other side. Unload the cow and put one sheep on either side to keep the balance on the return trip. Sounds similar to loading a carferry.
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