BTW, Dale, I got another shot of #33 at Dubuque a couple of weeks back from a different angle, complete with train...
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spokyone wrote: Opahujo wrote: Hi, Bob, Thanks for the picture. Now where have I seen one of these engines before? Hmmm. Oh, here it is: I recently sold the engine. I'm 76 and the time has come to clear the display shelves and thin out my collection of Lionel postwar equipment. My heirs wouldn't have a clue as to what to do with all my stuff. I'm hanging on to some of the trains on my layout, though. Even old boys need some toys. I live in eastern Iowa and perhaps this fall we'll make another trip to Keithsburg. But although it's not all that far, it's not the easiest place to get to. First we head east, crossing the Mississippi at Davenport; then turn south for about 40 miles and finally go west for about 20 miles to get back to the river at Keithsburg. I spend time in several forums but I'm not used to this one. Is there a way when I post a reply that I can link my reply post to the one that I'm replying to?Just click on the quote box that is next to the reply button, like I just did. As you drive east on I-80 you pass the rest stop. Next exit is 38 South. Follow business route 61 in Muscatine. You will see the bridge and hiway 92 on your left. Cross the bridge and turn right at the church, then left at the stop sign on Hiway 17. Then turn right, (south) where the sign says Keithsburg. This way saves a lot of miles. Then you can continue south and go through Burlington IA on your way back.Thanks for the tip. I'm quite familiar with hwy 38 to Muscatine, but I had never considered the road that runs south on the other side of the river in the direction of New Boston. That route looks a lot shorter.
Opahujo wrote: Hi, Bob, Thanks for the picture. Now where have I seen one of these engines before? Hmmm. Oh, here it is: I recently sold the engine. I'm 76 and the time has come to clear the display shelves and thin out my collection of Lionel postwar equipment. My heirs wouldn't have a clue as to what to do with all my stuff. I'm hanging on to some of the trains on my layout, though. Even old boys need some toys. I live in eastern Iowa and perhaps this fall we'll make another trip to Keithsburg. But although it's not all that far, it's not the easiest place to get to. First we head east, crossing the Mississippi at Davenport; then turn south for about 40 miles and finally go west for about 20 miles to get back to the river at Keithsburg. I spend time in several forums but I'm not used to this one. Is there a way when I post a reply that I can link my reply post to the one that I'm replying to?
Hi, Bob,
Thanks for the picture. Now where have I seen one of these engines before? Hmmm. Oh, here it is:
I recently sold the engine. I'm 76 and the time has come to clear the display shelves and thin out my collection of Lionel postwar equipment. My heirs wouldn't have a clue as to what to do with all my stuff. I'm hanging on to some of the trains on my layout, though. Even old boys need some toys.
I live in eastern Iowa and perhaps this fall we'll make another trip to Keithsburg. But although it's not all that far, it's not the easiest place to get to. First we head east, crossing the Mississippi at Davenport; then turn south for about 40 miles and finally go west for about 20 miles to get back to the river at Keithsburg.
I spend time in several forums but I'm not used to this one. Is there a way when I post a reply that I can link my reply post to the one that I'm replying to?
Thanks for the tip. I'm quite familiar with hwy 38 to Muscatine, but I had never considered the road that runs south on the other side of the river in the direction of New Boston. That route looks a lot shorter.
Opa. Thanks for the post. If you visit Keithsburg again you will see this.
The bridge is in the background.
Thanks for the interesting post (I'm a long-time Trains subscriber, but just found this forum today). We visited Keithsburg July 5, 1981, the day the 220 foot vertical lift span was to be demolished. Unfortunately, there were some delays with placing all the charges and we had to leave for home before the structure was blown.
I took the picture: http://i3.tinypic.com/5zfd8aw.jpg when we returned to Keithsburg 10 years later in 1991. The gap shown in the picture is wider than the 220 feet that the lift span once bridged; when the lift span fell into the river it also dislodged the adjacent fixed span. That span and its pier were removed a few years later to improve river navigation. One can also see in the pictures the piers from an earlier railroad bridge.
engineer wrote:Here is some additional information to the ferry crossing at Ste.Genevieve, MO. There was a ferry that crossed the Mississippi from Thomure, MO to Kellog, IL. (I don't belive Thomure exists anymore) This line started life as the Illinois-Southern RR. It ran from Bismarck,MO to Centralia,IL. It was later named the Mike 'n Ike, (MoPac), and it is still there, on the MO side, with ownership being the Union Pacific. Also, a couple of miles south of that, there was a ferry crossing around Chester,IL. It was located at the Northern end of the Louis Houck Railroad. Officially known as the "Cape Girardeau Northern" I do not remember that station's name anymore. But, the ferry crossed from here to Chester.
Engineer, the town on the Missouri side was called Claryville, but is now called West Chester. You can call it anything you want because there's nothing there anymore. There is a highway bridge crossing the river at this point and some good activity on the UP on the Illinois side. I've done some research on the CGN and don't believe they ever crossed the river. In fact, they used that line so little that the grass grew over it and the farmers pulled the ties out to use for retaining walls and other projects.
The town, (again no town left) of McBride is on the BNSF (ex-Frisco) in front of the bluff.
Also the Mike 'n Ike was officially the Missouri-Illinois, and they still run from Thomure (a few houses) up into Bonne Terre. They have a heck of a grade coming south out of Bonne Terre and I have some photos of a short train climbing the hill at walking speed.
Thanks for the great postings. At age 2 to 6, my family lived on southern edge of Hamilton, near the tracks. My father worked in Keokuk and due to WW2 he walked on the rail level because the highway approach was much longer. I remember the covered road bridge on the approach. At last I have found some pics at this web site for bridge #42http://www.hamiltonillinois.org/Final%20Photo%20Album/Historical/index.html
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QUOTE: Originally posted by sommerkamp wow--all I can say is that someone has done a lot of diligent work! we should all be grateful for this excellent contribution. I am not familiar with the upper Mississippi. I have crossed by rail at Newport, twice on the Milw Rd, at Ft Madison, Merchants, Eads, and MacArthur at St Louis, both at Memphis, and Huey Long at New Orleans. I have also used road vehicles by several where this was possible [some still rail have been closed to vehicular]. is McKinley at St Louis closed to vehicular? We may need new rail bridges to relieve New Orleans, especially if the Old River Structure fails and sends the Mississippi out through the Atchafalaya 80 miles west of New Orleans. Several geologists think this a real, even eventual, possibility. Theo Sommerkamp crosstie@wowway.com
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73 St. Louis Bridge #46 is called Merchants bridge. It opened in 1890 and has been operated by Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis since. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=12&Z=15&X=931&Y=5355&W http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.675158,-90.186961&spn=0.005045,0.009887 http://bridges.midwestplaces.com/mo/st-louis-city/merchants/ Amtrak uses Merchants bridge for Chicago-St. Louis trains Status-good St. Louis Bridge #48 is Eads bridge. This was the first St. Louis bridge, opening in 1874. The Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis was formed in 1889 to run the bridge. The last rail traffic was in 1974 and the bridge was traded to the City in 1989. The St. Louis Metrolink light rail system now uses the bridge. The Gateway arch is on the west bank just to the north. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=15&X=1864&Y=10698&W http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.628999,-90.179418&spn=0.005048,0.009887 http://bridges.midwestplaces.com/mo/st-louis-city/eads/ www.asce.org/history/brdg_eads.html 127 b/w and 1 color photo of this bridge can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #9 http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/ Eads bridge was used by Amtrak for the National Limited until October 1, 1979. Status-abandoned (by railroads) St. Louis Bridge #49 is named MacArthur bridge. This was built by the city because the other two bridges were owned by the TRRA. MacArthur opened in 1907 and was traded to the TRRA in 1989. A train can be seen on the east end of the bridge. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=15&X=1863&Y=10694&W http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.614465,-90.184654&spn=0.005049,0.009887 http://bridges.midwestplaces.com/mo/st-louis-city/macarthur/ 73 b/w photos of this bridge can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #18 http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/ Amtrak used this bridge for the River Cities from April 29, 1984 until November 4, 1993. Status-good
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