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Turntable and Roundhouse locations.
Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:04 PM

I am compiling a list of turntables and/or roundhouses that presently exist, even if only as a vague outline on the ground.  I am just looking at the aerial photos of the earth using Google Earth and following RR tracks to yards and zooming in where the photos have enough resolution to see if I can see anything of interest.

If you know of one (or more) please describe for me where it is.  Please tell me what city and state/country and some description of WHERE in that city, such as direction from the center or from some easily recognizable landmark (dam, major road intersection, large sports complex, etc.) or, if you know the Latitude and Longitude that would be nice, [(Edit 05/23/2007 3:27 PM CDT) but you don't need to provide them; once I find the place I can read them from the web photo/maps].  Any other info about the railroad it belonged/belongs to, or the name of the yard, or the date it was built or torn down would be nice to know, also.

The following is my list so far (my actual Excel list has one more column of "Comments" that offers some more description, but I left that off for this posting in the interest of readability):

EDIT 06/02/2007

State/Country      City                   Lat              Lon          TurnTable    Building
 AL             Birmingham             33° 31' 45" N    86° 50' 27" W    Working      No
 AL             Birmingham             33° 32' 25" N    86° 50' 11" W    No           Commercial
 AL             Huntsville             34° 44' 04" N    86° 35' 22" W    Working      Working
 AL             Montgomery             32° 23' 25" N    86° 18' 24" W    Ruin         Ruin
 AL             Tarrant City           33° 34' 12" N    86° 47' 12" W    No           Commercial
 AR             North Little Rock      34° 45' 52" N    92° 15' 04" W    Working      No
 AZ             Phoenix                33° 27' 21" N   112° 06' 04" W    Working      Outline
 AZ             Pueblo                 38° 15' 36" N   104° 36' 51" W    Working      Outline
 AZ             Tucson                 32° 12' 16" N   110° 58' 45" W    No           Commercial
 BC, Canada     Coquilam               49° 15' 27" N   122° 45' 33" W    Working      No
 BC, Canada     Esquimalt              48° 25' 47" N   123° 22' 54" W    Working      Working
 CA             Bakersville            35° 22' 36" N   118° 59' 10" W    Working      Outline
 CA             Los Angeles            34° 05' 51" N   118° 14' 21" W    Working      Outline
 CA             Redondo                34° 01' 09" N   118° 13' 33" W    Working      Working
 CA             Richmond               37° 56' 05" N   122° 22' 40" W    Working      No
 CA             Roseville              38° 44' 47" N   121° 17' 28" W    Working      No
 CA             Sacramento             38° 35' 07" N   121° 30' 19" W    Working      Working
 CA             Sacramento             38° 35' 17" N   121° 30' 04" W    Working      No
 CA             San Diego              32° 42' 10" N   117° 09' 14" W    Working      No
 CA             San Jose               37° 20' 18" N   121° 54' 30" W    Working      Outline
 CA             Stockton               37° 56' 05" N   121° 16' 26" W    Working      No
 CO             Colorado Springs       38° 50' 25" N   104° 51' 36" W    No           Commercial
 CO             Colorado Springs       38° 52' 00" N   104° 49' 54" W    No           Commercial
 CO             Durango                37° 16' 05" N   107° 52' 59" W    Working      Working
 CO             Golden                 39° 46' 18" N   105° 11' 31" W    Working      Working
 CT             East Hartford          41° 46' 45" N    72° 37' 47" W    No           Commercial
 CT             Hartford               41° 46' 48" N    72° 40' 10" W    No           Commercial
 Czech Rep      Prague                 50° 03' 39" N    14° 27' 36" E    Working      Working
 DE             Wilmington             39° 44' 41" N    75° 31' 28" W    No           Commercial
 France         Paris                  48° 45' 25" N     2° 26' 13" E    Working      Working
 France         Paris                  48° 54' 41" N     2° 21' 17" E    Working      Outline
 GA             Athens                 33° 57' 57" N    83° 22' 28" W    No           No
 GA             Atlanta                33° 46' 02" N    84° 24' 01" W    No           Commercial
 GA             Atlanta                33° 48' 00" N    84° 26' 18" W    Working      Outline
 GA             Atlanta                33° 43' 54" N    84° 23' 53" W    Working      Working
 GA             Savanna                32° 04' 32" N    81° 06' 06" W    No           Commercial
 GA             Summerville            34° 28' 43" N    85° 20' 47" W    Working?     No
 IA             Cedar Rapids           41° 59' 04" N    91° 40' 11" W    No           No
 IA             Cedar Rapids           41° 59' 13" N    91° 40' 15" W    No           Outline
 IA             Cedar Rapids           41° 59' 18" N    91° 40' 09" W    No           No
 IA             Council Bluffs         41° 14' 00" N    95° 50' 04" W    Working      No
 IA             Council Bluffs         41° 16' 09" N    95° 51' 40" W    Working      Working
 IA             Davenport              41° 29' 14" N    90° 38' 12" W    Working      Working
 IA             Des Moines             41° 35' 17" N    93° 34' 24" W    No           Outline
 IA             Iowa City              41° 39' 21" N    91° 31' 47" W    No           Commercial
 IA             Oelwein                42° 40' 59" N    91° 55' 36" W    Track Fan    Working
 IA             Waterloo               42° 30' 24" N    92° 19' 55" W    Working      Working
 ID             Nampa                  43° 34' 14" N   116° 32' 50" W    Working      Outline
 ID             Pocatello              42° 52' 06" N   112° 27' 06" W    No           Outline
 IL             Aurora                 41° 46' 18" N    88° 16' 23" W    Working      Outline
 IL             Aurora                 41° 45' 39" N    88° 18' 31" W    No           Residential?
 IL             Bedford Park           41° 46' 10" N    87° 45' 28" W    Working      Outline
 IL             Bensonville            41° 57' 13" N    87° 55' 55" W    Working      Outline
 IL             Bloomington            40° 29' 21" N    89° 00' 24" W    No           Outline
 IL             Blue Island            41° 38' 58" N    87° 37' 34" W    Working      No
 IL             Brooklyn               38° 39' 15" N    90° 09' 30" W    No           Outline
 IL             Centralia              38° 30' 04" N    89° 08' 43" W    Working      Working
 IL             East Hazel Crest       41° 34' 10" N    87° 39' 36" W    Working      No
 IL             East St. Louis         38° 38' 00" N    90° 09' 07" W    No           Yes
 IL             Joliet                 41° 32' 16" N    88° 03' 30" W    Working      Working
 IL             Rock Island            41° 30' 31" N    90° 33' 12" W    Working?     Outline
 IL             Silvis                 41° 30' 57" N    90° 24' 56" W    No           Outline
 IL             Springfield            39° 47' 29" N    89° 38' 35" W    No           Commercial
 IL             Stone Park             41° 53' 55" N    87° 53' 42" W    Working      No
 IL             Waukegan               42° 21' 30" N    87° 49' 41" W    Working      No
 IL             West Peoria            40° 40' 17" N    89° 36' 53" W    No           Outline
 IN             Bloomington            39° 08' 50" N    86° 32' 07" W    No           Outline
 IN             Evansville             37° 57' 48" N    87° 36' 27" W    Working      Working
 IN             Frankfort              40° 16' 55" N    86° 31' 18" W    Working      Working
 IN             Ft. Wayne              41° 04' 14" N    85° 07' 20" W    No           Outline
 IN             Ft. Wayne              41° 04' 21" N    85° 02' 01" W    Working      No
 IN             Gary                   41° 36' 48" N    87° 21' 11" W    Working      Working
 IN             Hammond                41° 36' 14" N    87° 28' 00" W    Working      Working
 IN             Indianapolis           39° 45' 41" N    86° 08' 21" W    No           Outline
 IN             Indianapolis           39° 48' 24" N    86° 08' 22" W    No           Outline
 IN             Washington             38° 39' 25" N    87° 11' 40" W    No           Outline
 KS             Goodland               39° 20' 28" N   101° 42' 55" W    Working      Outline
 KS             Kansas City            39° 05' 25" N    94° 38' 24" W    Working      Outline
 KS             Newton                 38° 02' 44" N    97° 20' 52" W    Working      No
 KS             Wichita                37° 43' 58" N    97° 20' 03" W    No           Outline
 KY             Louisville             38° 16' 08" N    85° 48' 09" W    Working      Working
 KY             Loyall                 36° 51' 20" N    83° 20' 57" W    Outline?     Warehouse?
 KY             Ludlow                 39° 05' 30" N    84° 32' 48" W    No           Outline
 KY             Russell                38° 32' 10" N    82° 41' 58" W    Working      Outline
 LA             Baton Rouge            30° 28' 07" N    91° 11' 21" W    Working      No
 LA             New Orleans            29° 54' 58" N    90° 06' 19" W    Working      Working
 LA             Shreveport             32° 30' 24" N    93° 30' 84" W    Working      Outline
 MA             Greenfield             42° 34' 19" N    72° 34' 01" W    Working      Working
 MD             Baltimore              39° 17' 08" N    76° 37' 58" W    Working      Working
 MD             Baltimore              39° 19' 00" N    76° 37' 32" W    No           Commercial
 MD             Brunswick              39° 18' 39" N    77° 37' 26" W    Working      Outline
 MD             Cumberland             39° 37' 47" N    78° 45' 56" W    Working      Working
 MD             Frostburg              39° 39' 25" N    78° 55' 28" W    Working      No
 ME             Bangor                 44° 47' 09" N    68° 46' 39" W    No           Ruin
 ME             Hermon                 44° 47' 26" N    68° 51' 55" W    Working      Working
 ME             South Portland         43° 37' 31" N    70° 17' 43" W    Working      Working
 ME             Waterville             44° 34' 06" N    69° 37' 00" W    Trans Table  Working
 ME             Waterville             44° 33' 59" N    69° 37' 09" W    Working      Working
 Mexico         Mexico City            19° 31' 34" N    99° 11' 01" W    Working      Working
 MI             Dearborn               42° 18' 25" N    83° 13' 48" W    Working      Working
 MI             Detroit                42° 19' 19" N    83° 07' 02" W    No           Outline
 MI             Grand Rapids           42° 56' 11" N    85° 40' 42" W    Working      No
 MI             Grand Rapids           42° 56' 41" N    85° 42' 13" W    No           Outline
 MI             Kalamazoo              42° 17' 38" N    85° 33' 58" W    No           Outline
 MI             Owosso                 42° 59' 38" N    84° 09' 56" W    Working      No
 MI             Pontiac                42° 39' 22" N    83° 19' 05" W    Working      Ruin
 MI             Proctor                46° 45' 29" N    92° 14' 26" W    Working      Working
 MI             Wells                  45° 46' 34" N    87° 03' 56" W    No           Working
 MN             Brainerd               46° 21' 24" N    94° 11' 14" W    No           Outline
 MN             Columbia Heights       45° 02' 49" N    93° 16' 21" W    Working      No
 MN             Dilworth               46° 52' 22" N    96° 41' 34" W    No           Outline
 MN             Minneapolis            44° 59' 39" N    93° 14' 41" W    No           Outline
 MN             Minneapolis            45° 01' 11" N    93° 14' 58" W    Overgrown    Commercial
 MN             Montevideo             44° 56' 33" N    95° 43' 39" W    Ruin         Outline
 MN             Rollag                 46° 44' 51" N    96° 14' 06" W    Working      Working
 MN             Sharonville            39° 16' 04" N    84° 25' 06" W    Working      Outline
 MN             St Paul                44° 56' 23" N    93° 02' 50" W    Working      Working
 MN             St Paul                44° 57' 21" N    93° 11' 11" W    Working      Working
 MN             St Paul                44° 57' 45" N    93° 05' 45" W    Working      Working
 MN             Thief River Falls      48° 07' 50" N    96° 10' 32" W    Working      Working
 MN             Wabasha                44° 23' 02" N    92° 02' 56" W    No           Commercial
 MN             Wilmar                 45° 07' 27" N    95° 01' 59" W    Working      No
 MO             Alorton                38° 36' 04" N    90° 07' 47" W    Working      No
 MO             Kansas City            39° 04' 46" N    94° 36' 03" W    Yes          Yes
 MO             Kansas City            39° 07' 14" N    94° 30' 00" W    Working      No
 MO             Springfield            37° 13' 48" N    93° 18' 34" W    Working      No
 MO             St. Louis              38° 37' 56" N    90° 14' 46" W    Yes          Outline
 MO             St. Louis              38° 41' 28" N    90° 12' 54" W    Working      No
 MS             Columbus               33° 30' 03" N    88° 24' 43" W    Working      Working
 MS             Vicksburg              32° 20' 37" N    90° 53' 17" W    Working      No
 MT             Butte                  46° 00' 34" N   112° 31' 11" W    No           Yes
 MT             Glendive               47° 06' 18" N   104° 42' 34" W    Working      Working
 MT             Great Falls            47° 30' 00" N   111° 18' 51" W    Working      Outline
 MT             Havre                  48° 33' 10" N   109° 39' 49" W    Working      No
 MT             Helena                 46° 36' 04" N   112° 00' 38" W    Working      Outline
 MT             Miles City             46° 24' 59" N   105° 50' 26" W    No           Outline
 MT             Whitefish              48° 24' 47" N   114° 20' 47" W    Working      Working
 NB             Freemont               41° 25' 34" N    96° 28' 31" W    Working      Outline
 NC             Asheville              35° 34' 01" N    82° 33' 41" W    Track Fan    Working
 NC             East Spencer           35° 41' 10" N    80° 26' 10" W    Working      Working
 NC             Greensboro             36° 03' 33" N    79° 50' 59" W    No           Commercial
 NC             Raleigh                35° 47' 15" N    78° 38' 31" W    Working      Outline
 ND             Fargo                  46° 53' 23" N    96° 48' 57" W    No           Outline
 ND             Grand Forks            47° 55' 03" N    97° 02' 46" W    Working      Working
 ND             Mandan                 46° 49' 30" N   100° 53' 21" W    Working      Outline
 NE             Lincoln                40° 48' 39" N    96° 44' 00" W    Working      No
 NE             Lincoln                40° 49' 13" N    96° 42' 52" W    No           Outline
 NE             Omaha                  41° 13' 49" N    95° 54' 55" W    Working      No
 NH             North Conway           44° 03' 07" N    71° 07' 46" W    Working      Outline
 NJ             Newark                 40° 42' 58" N    74° 09' 32" W    Working      Working
 NJ             Ridgefield Park        40° 50' 23" N    74° 01' 46" W    Working      No
 NM             Albuquerque            35° 04' 23" N   106° 39' 01" W    Working      Outline
 NM             Belen                  34° 39' 16" N   106° 46' 03" W    Working      Outline
 NM             Clovis                 34° 23' 48" N   103° 12' 41" W    Working      Outline
 NY             Binghamton             42° 05' 48" N    75° 51' 12" W    No           Commercial
 NY             Binghamton             42° 05' 53" N    75° 51' 26" W    Working      No
 NY             Port Jervis            41° 22' 35" N    74° 41' 41" W    Working      Ruin
 NY             Rome                   43° 11' 56" N    75° 27' 15" W    No           Damaged
 NY             Utica                  43° 06' 28" N    75° 14' 01" W    No           Commercial
 NY             Watertown              43° 57' 19" N    75° 56' 59" W    Pit?         Outline?
 NY             Watertown              43° 58' 21" N    75° 55' 50" W    Pit?         Outline?
 OH             Akron                  41° 03' 47" N    81° 27' 26" W    Working      No
 OH             Cleveland              41° 26' 12" N    82° 08' 44" W    No           Outline
 OH             Columbus               39° 54' 35" N    82° 59' 02" W    Working      Working
 OH             Marion                 40° 35' 25" N    83° 09' 03" W    No           Outline
 OK             Oklahoma City          35° 27' 22" N    97° 29' 48" W    Working      Outline
 ON, Canada     Toronto                43° 38' 27" N    79° 23' 09" W    No           Commercial
 ON, Canada     Toronto                43° 48' 09" N    79° 14' 45" W    Working      No
 OR             Ashland                42° 11' 55" N   122° 42' 19" W    No           Outline
 OR             Eugene                 44° 03' 60" N   123° 07' 40" W    Working      Outline
 OR             Portland               45° 29' 28" N   122° 38' 45" W    Working      Working
 OR             Portland               45° 38' 58" N   122° 41' 10" W    Working      No
 PA             Altoona                40° 32' 12" N    78° 22' 52" W    Working      Working
 PA             Bethlehem              40° 37' 10" N    75° 24' 39" W    No           Outline
 PA             Clifton Forge          37° 48' 36" N    79° 50' 09" W    Working      Ruin
 PA             Connellsville          40° 00' 24" N    79° 35' 40" W    Working      Run
 PA             Conway                 40° 30' 04" N    80° 14' 31" W    Working      Working
 PA             Enola                  40° 17' 43" N    76° 55' 37" W    Working      Working
 PA             Monroeville            40° 26' 05" N    79° 48' 12" W    Working      Working
 PA             Orbisonia              40° 14' 25" N    77° 54' 00" W    Working      Working
 PA             Philadelphia           39° 55' 43" N    75° 12' 29" W    Working      No
 PA             Port Clinton           40° 34' 54" N    76° 01' 37" W    Working      Working
 PA             Scranton               41° 24' 26" N    75° 40' 16" W    Working      Working
 Peru           Chosica                11° 56' 03" S    76° 41' 29" W    Working
 Peru           Lima                   12° 02' 24" S    77° 02' 19" W    Working      Working
 Peru           San Bartolome          11° 54' 14" S    76° 30' 57" W    Working      No
 SD             Aberdeen               45° 27' 52" N    98° 29' 47" W    Track Fan    Working
 SD             Huron                  44° 21' 57" N    98° 12' 21" W    Working      Working
 SD             Mitchell               43° 42' 27" N    98° 01' 35" W    Working      Outline
 SK, Canada     Moose Jaw              50° 23' 16" N   105° 32' 15" W    Working      No
 TN             Chattanooga            35° 03' 37" N    85° 15' 01" W    Working      No
 TN             Memphis                35° 04' 13" N    90° 04' 15" W    Working      Working
 TN             Nashville              36° 05' 31" N    86° 45' 09" W    Working      Working
 TX             Amarillo               35° 11' 43" N   101° 49' 44" W    Working      Outline
 TX             El Paso                31° 45' 23" N   106° 29' 45" W    Working      No
 TX             Fort Worth             32° 43' 41" N    97° 22' 02" W    Working      No
 TX             Fort Worth             32° 47' 22" N    97° 20' 44" W    Working      No
 TX             Houston                29° 44' 41" N    95° 20' 25" W    Working      Outline
 TX             Maybelle               31° 48' 06" N    95° 18' 05" W    Working      No
 UT             Ogden                  41° 12' 47" N   111° 59' 07" W    Outline      Outline
 UT             Ogden                  41° 13' 35" N   111° 58' 59" W    No           Outline
 UT             Salt Lake City         40° 47' 22" N   111° 54' 29" W    Working      No
 VA             Norfolk                36° 52' 26" N    76° 18' 59" W    Working      Working
 VA             Roanoke                37° 16' 28" N    79° 55' 50" W    Working      Working

 

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Posted by Dough on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:46 PM

I can add a few to your GA section.  I believe that there are only two roundhouses left in GA.  And I put all of the turntables that I know of (can think of right now).  I also tried to add some detail to what you already have.  Have you considered posting the KMZ file somewhere?  It would make it a lot easier than trying to copy and paste the cordinates.

  

StateCityLatLonTurntableBuilding
GA Atlanta43° 48' 1" N     84° 26' 18" W   WorkingOld Outline w/ some new buildings
GA Atlanta33° 46' 3" N84° 24' 1" WGoneLoft Office Space http://www.artery.org/NorthYards.htm
GA Athens33° 57' 57" N83° 22' 28" WRuinsNo roudhouse--Look at my post here:  http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1113309/ShowPost.aspx
GAAtlanta 33° 43' 54" N 84° 23' 53" WWorkingWorking Double Check this (I'll look too--I have an old post on this...I don't think that the facility is in operation right now: http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/421054/ShowPost.aspx
GASavannah32° 04' 32" N81° 06' 06" WNo TracksWarehouse? Part of the Savannah Railroad Museum http://www.savannahga.net/tours/railroadroundhouse.html

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:40 PM

There are only two problems with posting the KMZ file.

 1) I don't "know" HOW.

 2) I dont "know" WHERE.

Those two things (with an emphasis on "KNOW") always seem to severely limit my usefullness.  Dunce [D)]

Thanks for the info.  I will look for the places and add them to my list.  Your "comments" are appreciated also.

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Posted by inch53 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:12 PM

The C&EIL is still standing in Villa Grove, IL, atleast it was bout a month ago. TT been gone for years though. Don't have the Lat/Lon, hope you can find them

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:17 PM

HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS SOME OF THOSE!!!!!Shock [:O]Blush [:I]Dunce [D)]

And apologies to the Savannah Roundhouse Railroad Museum for marking the use of the building as "Warehouse?".  From space it is a bit hard to tell what the actual use of a building is.  I could tell it was in good repair, but the lack of tracks in the area had me a bit confused.  The "Comment" in my list is "Nice, but no tracks anywhere."

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:17 PM
Without looking at the photos or coordinates, I suspect that the turntable shown at Stone Park, Illinois, is the one at UP's Proviso Yard, and should more properly be identified as Melrose Park (Stone Park is a small enclave from which I moved just in time in the 1970s).  It was at one time surrounded by a good-sized roundhouse.  UP still uses the turntable.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:23 PM
RE: Villa Grove:  Unfortunately, the Google Earth photos are much too low resolution to see anything worthwhile.  I can tell the RR was a diagonal NE/SW line, but the image is just black/green/white squiggles.  I will keep the name in my list, but I can't add Lat & Lon until I can "see" it.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:33 PM

You may be right.  The yard is an East/West yard and the TT is on the North side.  I almost called this one "Berkeley" as that city name is closer to the yard, but the TT is on the Stone Park side.  Melrose Park is farther (not much) away to the East.  There is another, smaller North/South yard closer to Melrose Park on the North side between Melrose Park and Franklin Park, but I can find no TTs in that area.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:02 PM
There is a turntable still in use by the TPW railroad at the East peoria Yard.  It is right down the hill from the big water park and sports complew in East peoria, IL.  There is also one in Forest Illinios.  There used to be a diamond just east of the town.  The current train tracks are the TPW and the turntable is still in place but no trakcs lead to it.  If I remeber correctly it was used by the old Penns.  Like I said I could be wrong.  If you look maybe 15 feet North of the tracks it will be in the general vacinity.  By the way Hwy 24 runs parallel to the train tracks.
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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:15 PM

Another couple of places were the resolution is just too poor to see anything.  In the Peoria, IL area, there is a dividing point in the photos where West Peoria is high res, but Peoria (and east) is low res.  I can tell that there are probably at least 2 large railyards in East Peoria, but can't see enough detail to state that as a fact, or see what the track structure is like or what buildings are there.

 

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Posted by tatans on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:55 PM
Try this: 50 23' 16.71'' N    by   105 32' 15.37'' W   Located in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada. Still operational, roundhouse gone, turntable only. Located  behind large train station in centre of town, on C.P.R. Mainline.  have fun.
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Posted by Dough on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:00 PM

Have you considered the Google Earth Forum?  They allow you to post the KMZ file.  They may even help you find some.  Here's the one for trasportation:  http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/modEarthTransportation

Also, remember that Microsoft is trying to compete with Goggle.  The now have their Microsoft Live going, and the resolution is far better.  Plus they give you four angles.  Of course the downside is that they have only flown their aircraft over select areas, but they hope to have something like 80 percent of N. America and Europe done in the near future.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=pntx1m81jxb3&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5829210&encType=1

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Posted by Dough on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:08 PM

Also, everything that I have read about the Savannaha turntable says that it is operable.  I guess that I need to go down there and see for myself!

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:14 PM
 Semper Vaporo wrote:

You may be right.  The yard is an East/West yard and the TT is on the North side.  I almost called this one "Berkeley" as that city name is closer to the yard, but the TT is on the Stone Park side.  Melrose Park is farther (not much) away to the East.  There is another, smaller North/South yard closer to Melrose Park on the North side between Melrose Park and Franklin Park, but I can find no TTs in that area.

Yep--sounds like Proviso.  Melrose Park virtually surrounds Stone Park.  The yard has been my "home away from home" for 36-plus years, so I'm somewhat familiar with it. Confirm with the street address of 5050 W. Lake St., Melrose Park.

Portions of Proviso are within the limits of six area suburbs:  Franklin Park, Northlake, Melrose Park, Bellwood, Berkeley, and Elmhurst.

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:58 PM

Janesville, WI.  The WSOR roundhouse and turntable.  Try 203 S. Pearl St. 

Horicon, WI.  The enginehouse is called the roundhouse.  Might have had a turntable in the past, not sure.   Rectangular building with 3 tracks going inside.

Madison, WI.  Former CNW roundhouse.  Recently had a fire in the building.  Used to be a caboose inside, not sure how well it survived the fire.

That is all I can think of for now.  Good luck! 

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Posted by Zwingle on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:44 PM

I recall there being a couple of turntables in Savanna, Illinois years ago.  At least the Milwaukee one was in use when I was in high school, but that was 1982.  Not sure their current status.

The old two-stall BCR&N roundhouse is still standing in Iowa City, although the turntable is long gone.  Its obvious shape is easier to see up close, but here's a sat link.  Its the middle building standing askew. The engines entered from the northeast.  Back in the 1980's it was a Suds N Duds, but I have no idea what it might be today.  Iowa City, IA, USA - Google Maps

I'll bet there are a lot more roundhouse "footprints" out there.  Seems I'm always finding them when I research abandoned lines.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:45 PM

Watertown, NY, NYC, 43 58'21.63"N, 75 35'50.30"W - buildings long gone.  Just east of current county jail.  You can still pick out the pit and most of the tracks.

Utica, NY, DL&W, 43 06'28.90"N 75 14' 01.40W.  Tracks are gone, believe the building is now a private concern.  Pit may still be there, but has been filled in. 

Rome, NY, NYO&W, 43 11' 55.92"N 75 27'14.15"W.  Tracks long, long gone, two or three stall roundhouse still stands, but satellite image looks like roof has collapsed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:47 PM
I beleive the 2 yards you are refering to is the one one the west side is the large TZPR railroad Yard.  The one in East peoria is the TPw yard where the turntable is.
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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:26 PM

Dough: 
Yes, I started with a list on one of the Google forums, but it dissappeared on me, and then I lost the ability to access the forum altogether, so I gave up several weeks ago. 
I tried your link and it works again.  Go fig! 
(I hate cornpewters!  And I made my living programming them for 40 years!!!!!  By which I have come up with the following adage:  "Computers are neither smart, nor dumb... they are mean, just plain ol' mean!")
Anyway, I still can't find the original list that was there but I am looking for some of the individual items that are listed in 49 threads with "Roundhouse" in a title on the "Transportation (unmoderated)" forum; I could not find any threads about Roundhouses on the "Transportation (moderated)" forum.

Dough: 
The TT looks like it could work, but I "see" no tracks to it. 
The only indication of tracks are what appear to be abandoned roadbeds to the north and the west.

CShaveRR: 
I have heard about Proviso Yard many times but never knew just where it was.  Thanks. 
And yes, those are the names of all the "cities" that Giggle lists in the area.

WSOR 3801: 
Janesville and Horicon are too low of resolution to see anything. 
If the Madison RH is on the east side of the big lake then that is the one I have listed. 
No Turntable and no tracks to it (faces away from the only track in the area). 
If what you are thinking of is on the west side then the resolution is not good enough to see anything (the city is split right down the middle, high res on the east, low res on the west).

deepspire:
Savanna, IL... too low of resolution. 
Iowa City... that one is really obscure since there are no RR Tracks near it.  Thanks.

Tree68:
Watertown:  A typo in your coordinates put me off about 15 miles east of Watertown, NY, (about a mile east of Carthage).  But that made me look around Watertown a bit!
I think you meant the outline of a very overgrown TT & RH at: 43°58'21.64"N, 75°55'50.34"W (west of Watertown). 
But, in looking around I also found a vague outline of a TT at: 43°57'19.49"N, 75°56'59.18"W (Southwest of Watertown).
Utica, Nice building, but no evidence of the TT pit anymore.
Rome, Yes, the roof looks in bad shape.


All:
I will also look up all these places that are too low res on Giggle Erp on some of the other map/photo sites to see if they are any better.  I'll have to add another column in my list for which web site the TT & RH can be "Seen" on.


Also, I never figured I'd find more than a dozen active, working roundhouses, nor more than maybe a hundred ruins in obscure places.  From what I have found so far, I bet there are hundreds of active, working roundhouses and thousands of ruins still visible from the aerial photos, even in just the high resolution ones.

 

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Posted by Dough on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:00 PM

Yikes!  Go to http://www.railpictures.net/.  Do a search for turntable and then roundhouse.  It comes up with a BUNCH of hits.  Even if you only look at the ones in the US I already see some that aren't on your list.  I could help if you need it, as it would take quite a while to search that list.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:48 PM

I am very tempted to say, "You take the results of a search for 'Turntable' and I'll take the result of a search for 'Roundhouse".  But since it found only ONE (read it right, "1") 'Roundhouse' that would not really be fair!Big Smile [:D]

Take off from either end of the list (I think it said there were 298 photos of "Turntable") and I'll start at the other end.  Which end do you want to start from?

Do you have microsoft "Excel"?  I could send you the list I have now in that form as a starting place.  Or you can make your own list and share it back to me and I'll figure out how to blend it with my list and then send it back to you.

 

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Posted by Zwingle on Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:42 AM

Semper,

While the Google Resolution for Savanna is poor, the Yahoo one is decent enough for me to tell the Milwaukee roundhouse is completely gone. (I later remembered the problems they had removing it and redeveloping because of toxic soil.)  The old Q roundhouse footprint I can tell is barely there, but so overgrown its impossible to discern.  I just remember where it was.  A winter shot would capture it in this case.

This site allows you to interchange between several different image places. (Yahoo, Google, Virtual Earth, etc.)  I use it in situations where Google Earth is poor. It works very well and is quite useful: Flash Earth .. 

 This is going to be a good thread, and an important one too, I think..

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Posted by cordon on Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:56 AM

Smile [:)]

Bridge Street/Washington Street, Salem, MA.  The building marked Salem Depot on Google Maps is where the control tower used to be.  There are two parking lots in the satellite photo.  The one to the left has been there for many years, while the one directly to the north covers the location of the turntable and the roundhouse.  I can't see any hint of their existence in the current image.  In the early 1950s my friends and I used to walk around there on the turntable and in the roundhouse.  The tower operator showed us how everything worked in the tower and let us operate the mechanical switch and signal levers.

Salem Depot was an imposing gray granite structure at the south end of the RR tunnel under downtown Salem.  I'm not sure how people came to name the control tower Salem Depot.

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Posted by mackb4 on Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:02 AM

 First.This is a very interesting search and one that will take a while to complete.

 Second.The listing you show for Worthington,Ky should show Russell,Ky.This is at the mechanical facility of CSX.It is a working up to date turntable.The old wooden roundhouse and coal tipple were razed a few years back.The engine "house" and ready track are very active.Russell is a GE warranty shop.

 Now for some information I didn't see but may have over looked.

 The NS has a turntable,longhouse and roundhouse in Williamson,WVa (N&W).They both are used by the car shop and not the mechanical department.The roundhouse has two shifts that repair cars.The turntable is used to move the cars around to the different stalls for repair.

 

 Although the turntable is in service,it is not up-to-date to turn locomotives.I was told by an official that he has been trying to get the turntable in the budget to update it to handle locomotives.

 Portsmouth,Ohio (N&W),only has a longhouse and some of the car repair buildings left.A portion of the roundhouse foundation and tracks are all that remain.

 At one time Kenova,WVa (N&W) had some sort of roundhouse and turntable.I've never seen pictures of either one and am only going by what the "old heads" told me when I hired on  .But there is a track over the hill that's called "the roundhouse lead".

 Hope this information helps you out .Smile [:)]     

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:28 AM

 Semper Vaporo wrote:
Watertown:  A typo in your coordinates put me off about 15 miles east of Watertown, NY, (about a mile east of Carthage).  But that made me look around Watertown a bit!
I think you meant the outline of a very overgrown TT & RH at: 43°58'21.64"N, 75°55'50.34"W (west of Watertown). 
That's the one.   It's actually rather in the middle of town, but west of downtown.  The yard was also in that area at one time.  Probably couldn't read my own writing...

But, in looking around I also found a vague outline of a TT at: 43°57'19.49"N, 75°56'59.18"W (Southwest of Watertown).
I was going to check there (that's CSX's Massey Yard), but didn't.  The turntable appears to have been in the middle of the wye, or else the wye was built when the turntable was removed.  I don't have a ready resource for that kind of information, though.

I'm thinking there was also some sort of facility near where the tracks cross the Black River (north of the locations I gave), but I've never really researched it, so don't know for sure.  I think it supported a traction line.

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Posted by youngengineer on Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:54 AM
in Denver Co the old C & S roundhouse is partially there 2 stalls and the turntable,(the original narrow gauge turntable was at Six Flags Elitch's but I think has since ben removed) This is north of union staion and coors field, also I believe Burnham, former Rio Grande yards still have a turntable but no roundhouse, I'll try for some better directions later. If interseted in narrow gauge turntables and roundhouse, Como, Co has a partially restored roundhouse and tunrtable pit,(not sure how well map coverage is of this area though) I know of some others if interested in these.
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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:23 PM

deepspire:
It sure helps when a person knows the area and exactly where thing were.  Sometimes the outline is recognizable if you KNOW it is there, even in the low resolutions. 
I will try other map sites when I have more time. 

I did try your link to Flash Earth.  Interesting to have the multiple systems on one interface, but Google seemed to be the best resolution in the few areas where I tried it. 

BUT, I sure don't appreciate their interface.  Really irritating the way it sometimes locks the "button down" when I try to pan long distances.  Click and drag and then release the button to move the mouse back to the starting edge and sometimes the map would pan with the mouse even though the button had been released.  A second click would make the place the mouse is pointing at jump to the center.  I'm trying to follow an obscure abandoned rail line and I lose track when those types of things happen.  Also, lots of the images from the other sites are "washed-out" or foggy and even the Google ones are affected if I zoom in too far... a "fog bank" rolls in from the Thames and a dozen slashed-circles show up distorting detail.  Please, no insult to you, tain't your fault... I am just irritated by it!  I could probably get used to it, but that may take longer than I am willing to put into it.  Yes, I am seeking instant gratification and Google Earth is coming closest to it so far.  I have a lot of "ground" to cover and there are still many higher resolution areas using Google that I have not looked at yet.  I have started a second section to my list that contains places to look at with the other map sites when I feel I have exhausted Google Earth's abilities.

Cordon:
Again, knowing WHERE to look is a great advantage, especially when the powers that be have paved it over with a parking lot!  Sad to lose them, but I guess that is progress and you can't save EVERYTHING.

mackb4:
Interesting to be sure, but what started out as a "Look!  I found a roundhouse!  I wonder how many more I can find?" has become almost overwhelming!  Sure is fun though.  I just hope no one is insulted if I can't find a particular site and don't add it to "my" list.
Thanks for the correction to the name of the Russell, Ky site.  I have to guess as to which nearby city is the appropriate one to use and it is sometimes difficult to decide which one is "closer" and even that may not produce the "correct" name.
I will go looking for the other places you list as I can.  I am getting quite a list of possibilities!

nanaimo73:
Thanks, even more to go after!

tree68:
Thanks for suppling "names" for the yards... I see another column for the list, aside from the "Comments".

youngengineer:
Ah!  Another column to add... Narrow/standard gauge, Traction, Ammusment Park, etc.  I may as well try to add anything somebody might be interested in.


All:
I will try to update the list on a weekly basis until I run out of information from others and after that only when I happen to find more.  Does anybody know how long I can "edit" the first post I made?  Can I edit it 'always' or only within some number of day after it is posted?  I'd rather update it in one place (and maybe post a note at the end of the thread to indicate I have done so) rather than keep adding long lists to the thread.

 

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Posted by Dough on Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:42 PM

Semper Vaporo:

Try searching roundhouse again, and make sure that you haven't selected any of the drop down menus like particular states.  There are a lot.

Also, do you want to include transfer tables such as the one at GE's locomotive plant in Erie, PA.  These slid up and down instead of spinning in a circle.  I am having a hard time finding a good aerial picture, but Trains September 1999 addition has a picture of it on page 51.

And finally yes I do have excel.  You can email me the excel file, and I'll just add on.  I don't care which end I start at.

deepspire:

The one thing that I really do like about that interface is that you can switch between modes quickly.  I found this useful when looking at maps of different eras.  Apparently Microsoft has some really old maps, so it is cool to switch between the then and now.  I did this with the GE plant in Erie, PA and you can see the downsizing pretty well!

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Posted by Dough on Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:00 PM

Got another one:

Buffalo, NY's Frontier Yard:  42° 53' 58"N 78° 48' 38"W  The turntable is completely gone, and it is used as a warehouse.  (Very good resolution in Google Earth)

Edit:  Ok, now I'm confused.  The one above may have been an old roundhouse, but it wasn't in use in the 1950's?  And I think the big one from the 1950's was torn down for yard expansion, but the original one is still there?  http://www.railfan.net/maps/1950usgs/bison50.jpg

I'm going to try to search out the ones listed on the maps of this page.

http://www.railfan.net/maps/1950usgs/

Wow there were a bunch of turntables and roundhouses in Buffalo!!!  I'll give details of which road they belonged to whenever you can send me the excel file.  Also, I'm going to keep editing this reply for a while.

This one for sure:  Buffalo, NY 42° 52' 43"N 78° 49' 13" W Ruins of both roundhouse and turntable

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