They're not saying much at this point, but the TV news is showing lots of smoke and fire. I can see several tank cars that are lying perpendicular to the track. They're saying that there are a dozen cars on fire, and possibly some more tankers that aren't burning at this point.
I'll post a link to the story as soon as one is available.
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=5944082
I rode near here and took pics just two days ago.Jeez.
SimRacin40 wrote: http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=5944082 I rode near here and took pics just two days ago.Jeez.
Jim,
No, these are two completely separate incidents. Kind of strange, though, that they would happen two days in a row.
jp2153 wrote:Is this the same wreck that occured in Irvine Ky?? There was a post yesterday about a CSX runaway. It would be odd if it was two different accidents on the same day in the same state.
No,this is a different location. Just guessing,but probably about a 130 miles apart.
Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
Is this NS or CSX again? Shelbyville is on both lines. Second haz-mat incident in Kentucky in as many days. Wasn't it just yesterday that four runaway tankers hit a stopped CSX train at Irvine not very far east of today's derailment? Frankfort, the state capitol is roughly mid-way between the two accident scenes and I'll bet the lawmakers will be asking some tough questions about rail safety in that area.
Mark
KCSfan wrote:Is this NS or CSX again? Shelbyville is on both lines. Second haz-mat incident in Kentucky in as many days. Wasn't it just yesterday that four runaway tankers hit a stopped CSX train at Irvine not very far east of today's derailment? Frankfort, the state capitol is roughly mid-way between the two accident scenes and I'll bet the lawmakers will be asking some tough questions about rail safety in that area.Mark
CSX,ex L & N from Louisville to Nashville. Just north of Shepherdsville.
KCSfan wrote: Is this NS or CSX again? Shelbyville is on both lines. Second haz-mat incident in Kentucky in as many days. Wasn't it just yesterday that four runaway tankers hit a stopped CSX train at Irvine not very far east of today's derailment? Frankfort, the state capitol is roughly mid-way between the two accident scenes and I'll bet the lawmakers will be asking some tough questions about rail safety in that area.Mark
The headline on UTU's website says it best: "CSX in Flames Again".
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Dan
Fox news originally reported it was at Shelbyville or maybe I heard it wrong. CNN is now saying it ocurred at Brooks which would place it near Shepardsville on the old L&N mainline just south of Louisville. They also reported there may be a car of liquid propane involved which would make quite a fireball when it went off. Attempts to put this fire out are futile. They should just get everybody well away from the scene and let it burn itself out.
I'm glad I live 250 miles from the nearest CSX line. The KCS runs about a mile from my house and they run whole trains of tankers filled with all kinds of bad s--t from the petro-chemical plants in the Beumont-Houston-Lake Charles corridor. Knock on wood they seem to be able to keep their trains on the tracks. If it was a CSX line my house would be up for sale.
CSX sucks should have a reporter on the scene.
I just retired from the Army and I recall that we had to notify local and state jurisdictions that we were carrying HAZMAT. Before we left a base Fort Ord Ca to Travis AFB Ca we needed to make sure that we had the proper escorts and equipment to protect and preserve equipment / pax's.
When I begin my train service after my training next month, who is responsible for the notification of the load that is being shipped on the train? I am sure that there is a notification process. I just heard on CNN that the local Fire Fighters were not aware of what was on the train.
Does the Conductor and Engineer have the responsibility to inform the first responders of what kind of cargo is being shipped? Similar to a OTR Driver with a HAZMAT Load?
I pray that the crew and local pers are safe and sound.
Yeah, it's in the Brooks, KY area; not too far away from my brother's house. Talked with him a few minutes ago, they're all home safe and sound. This area is very close to where Mutt and I lived when we got married. As a matter of fact, he was on the fire department for this area in and around Brooks, for about ten years.
Shelbyville to Brooks is about 70 miles apart.
derek b wrote: The trains manifest should have had haz-mat info on it.
They do; complete with evacuation parameters and specific hazards.
jp2153 wrote:I just retired from the Army and I recall that we had to notify local and state jurisdictions that we were carrying HAZMAT. Before we left a base Fort Ord Ca to Travis AFB Ca we needed to make sure that we had the proper escorts and equipment to protect and preserve equipment / pax's.When I begin my train service after my training next month, who is responsible for the notification of the load that is being shipped on the train? I am sure that there is a notification process. I just heard on CNN that the local Fire Fighters were not aware of what was on the train.Does the Conductor and Engineer have the responsibility to inform the first responders of what kind of cargo is being shipped? Similar to a OTR Driver with a HAZMAT Load?I pray that the crew and local pers are safe and sound.
I would honestly think that CNN got some very bad information that the firefighters first in were not aware of what was on the train, according to what I've seen and heard,ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS they did; was find the Engineer & Conductor and get the
manifest so they would know what they were facing. I had my scanner on and was listening when this run was dispatched,so I heard most of what was going on. I used to
be on this department and I still know a few of the guys,they know what to do!!
Loco, I was not trying to bring discredit to the crew or the company. I was just curious how these situations are handled. As with any large organization, there are SOP's and safeguards in place to handle any issue. I am sure that when I begin my training in a few weeks, the training that I will receive will be top noch and followed up with a company mentor.
I apoligize if I seemed dumbfounded. I am not. I just wanted to know if the same reporting proceedures are used for transporting HAZMAT as they are in my previous place of employment.
I respect the work that all of the "SEASONED PROFESSIONALS" are doing to identify, correct, and protect the scene.
I look forward to enjoying my next challenging career within the railroad industry.
They're saying the tank cars had cyclohexane in them. Here's the latest article from CNN. They have video and a map as well.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/16/train.fire/index.html
jp2153 wrote: <SNIP>Does the Conductor and Engineer have the responsibility to inform the first responders of what kind of cargo is being shipped? Similar to a OTR Driver with a HAZMAT Load?I pray that the crew and local pers are safe and sound.
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Truckers will either leave the bills in the left door pocket or slap them down onto the first responder's vehicle he or she sees. Woe onto the driver and company if the bills are not properly marked.
A specific number will be present on the Placards or on the Paperwork that will identify the product and the procedures that is required. Example, Ammunition: Evacuate 5 miles radius plus line of sight.
I wonder what kind of spin CSX mouthpiece Gary Spease will put on this one and the one that happened yesterday.
The governer of KY Ernie Fletcher eairler today made a statement on WHAS about what is about to go down in the next 16-18 hours. Well, I 65 is back open, but there are still road closeures around the sight. The evacuated people can't come home just yet. It turns out that as of this morning they started the started the slow controlled burn of the Butadiene tank cars.
Well we'll see what happens!
The latest news is that CSX is offering a check for $100 to all the residents of Bullitt County.
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=5957405&nav=menu31_3
I'm guessing that one of the terms of accepting the money is that agree not to sue CSX, but I don't know for sure.
You have to show proof of residence, and explain how you were inconvenienced by the wreck.
One report says that the wreck was caused by a flange defect.
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