Datafever wrote:Keep the pictures coming, pedrop!
Hi datafever, thanks for the good words.
Here is a picture of the deep pit of Socoimex iron ore mine. Note the EFVM viaduct at the background. The passenger train also passes there. Today the pit is much deeper.
Here is a picture of old Caue mine, the oldest mine of CVRD. CVRD stopped the mining process there, but there are another two mines at the sides: Mina do Meio and Conceicao. 60 years ago this deep pit was a high and beautiful mountain
Picture from my friend Giovani carvalho
Here we see a view of the huge Brucutu mine, at Barao de Cocais. Note the train loading. This mine accept locotrol with 320 cars. In this picture the mining complex wasn´t finished, but today is complete.
picture from the Estado de Minas newspaper.
Hi Pedro,
is the Serra-do-Tigres-railroad the Line that leads from Curitiba to the port of Paranagua?
And do you know anything about the actual state of the famous Serra Inclines (old and new, trains pulled by ropes) between Sao Paulo and Santos. AFAIK, the old Serra Incline has been converted to rack-and-cog-system with broad-gauge.
Murphy Siding wrote: edblysard wrote: Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about. Now there's a porch! Is the B+B set-up to reduce the axle loading on lighter track?
edblysard wrote: Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about.
Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about.
Now there's a porch! Is the B+B set-up to reduce the axle loading on lighter track?
Just the right size for a couple lawn chairs.
Lionel collector, stuck in an N scaler's modelling space.
RR Redneck wrote:Just the right size for a couple lawn chairs.
....and a cooler and grill....if you do it on the front porch, you cant call it Tailgating, can you?
Would it be a Hood Party? (Or Bonnet party, for our cousins across the pond?)
martin.knoepfel wrote:Hi Pedro,is the Serra-do-Tigres-railroad the Line that leads from Curitiba to the port of Paranagua? And do you know anything about the actual state of the famous Serra Inclines (old and new, trains pulled by ropes) between Sao Paulo and Santos. AFAIK, the old Serra Incline has been converted to rack-and-cog-system with broad-gauge.
Hi martin.knoepfel,
Serra do Tigre is at FCA line that connects the states of Minas Gerais and Goias. That line is used to transport soybean. The line that links Curitiba to Paranagua belongs to ALL network, in the state of Parana, in the soulth.
The old cog line between Santos and Paranapiacaba is out off service since 1990´s because an old bridge is in bad condition. That line is preserved to steam operation, but the site there have no money to fix the bridge for while. MRS has a modern cog line there two, the new one. It is in plenty operation. It uses Hitachi cog locomotives there, as you can see here. I will post more pictures of that line soon.
Pedro
Today I met this train crossing the yard here...EFVM 1249 is one of the newest BB40-9W that joined to EFVM fleet.
A rear view of EFVM 1249....
Here we see at view of DDM45 859 helping BB40-9W 1249 with that big train.
Look how much space we have between a BB40-2 and a BB40T-2.
Here we see two ex- ATSF C30-7 units on FCA broad gauge lines in Sao Paulo state
MRS 3841 passing by Sebastiao Lacerda station. Photo from my friend Gutierrez Lhamas.
The only RSC3 in operation condition in Brazil. Here we see it being moved by truck to EFC, where it is working now as a MOW loco in the construction of Norte e Sul line.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Murphy Siding wrote: Why doesn't the RSC3 have *extra* axles? Does it already have a low enough axle loading for running in Brazil?
The RSC3 already has an idler axle (A1A-A1A) so extra axles would probably make it too slippery. It may also not be assigned to meter-gauge trackage.
CSSHEGEWISCH wrote: It may also not be assigned to meter-gauge trackage.
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Here we see a Volvo front loader give a help to the truck to departure...the RSC3 traveled more than 3,000km onto the truck to reach the line of EFC...
Here we see the small Houston locomotive that loaded the RSC3 onto the truck.
Hi guys,
I received this picture of Serra do Tigre line. Note the FCA train doing a "S" curve (the top of the "S" is at top right) It´s a wonderful line.
Datafever wrote:Pedro, I'm not sure if you answered this before, but do you know how much trackage is dual gauge? And where would be the location(s) of most of that dual gauge track?
Hi Datafever,
we have dual gauge line in Sao Paulo state, from the location of Boa Vista Nova to Santos, where ALL line (meter gauge) connects to MRS (broad gauge). Some suburb lines in Sao Paulo city use dual gauge lines too. The ALL line from Pederneiras to Itapevi and Bauru is dual too. I do not know how long is the dual gauge system in Sao Paulo state, but I think is much more than here in Minas.
In the south, we have dual gauge at Uruguaiana yard, where ALL have meter and standard gauge. The standard gauge belongs to ALL network in Argentina. I also do not know how long is the dual gauge system in ALL network in the south.
Also we have dual gauge in northeast at EFC where its connect to CFN. I think it´s only at Sao Luiz yard.
In Rio de Janeiro we had dual gauge lines too, but they were removed some years ago.
Here in Minas Gerais we have dual gauge links Contagem to Sete Lagoas, and at Patrag yard. These section together have about 200 km long. The lines passes through Belo Horizonte city, the capital of Minas Gerais.
An interesting thing about dual gauge system is the fact the companies use to have 3 rails on flat lands and 4 rails on steep grades. The reason is the fact of broad gauge trains wast the rails much more than meter gauge ones. So, the companies have their own line in the steep grade sections to avoid argument among the companies. Close here, we have a section of dual gauge with 4 rails. The line belongs to EFVM but MRS also use it to reach PATRAG yard, to get steel produts at Acominas steel plant. So each company have it´s "own" rails in the same line. I will get a picture of this section to add here.
One of the special gondolas used to switch cars on bolth gauges. We call them Maromba or Madrinha cars. Note it has one truck on meter line and the other at the broad...
Some locomotives have dual gauge couplers, like SPA RSC-3. The broad gauge coupler is higher than the meter one (higher than standard gauge too) and is centered to the loco. The meter gauge coupler is located a bit to side.
...we also have gondolas with two couplers, like this FCA GFD class gondola. They use gondolas because the car must be very heavy to connect the locomotives of different gauge to the train. So the gondolas are full of old pieces of rails or full of stone ballast.
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