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Posted by dmoore74 on Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:25 PM
We did have an interesting three way conversation several years ago. The specific town has been deliberately omitted.
Fire Dispatcher - "Dispatch to Station A, we have a brush fire down by the depot,
north side of the tracks."
5 minutes of silence.
RR Dispatcher - "Thank you 448 (Amtrak), we don't know these things unless they
tell us."
1 minute of silence.
Fire Dispatcher - "Dispatch to Engine 1, got Conrail on the phone. Says one of
their trains ran over your hose."
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwboehm

Hey Mook-
I was listening last night to the scanner and I heard the dispatcher going on about a "cluster" in your neck of the woods. Something about 2 trains going into Lincoln, and light power running to Havelock because the crossover job (whatever that was) "went on the ground", which sounds like an oops on their part. Did you hear or see anything to that effect?? I know there's a lot of ground to cover between the yard on the west side and Havelock, and I can't narrow it down any. Just curious to see if you knew anything about any possible mishaps in your area.
I didn't hear anything on the radio this morning - will listen to local at 11 and see if they say something. My scanner is always on police and fire and they always do their best work - AFTER I go to sleep! I will check around and see what I can find. Thanx for the heads up.

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Posted by kwboehm on Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:41 AM
Hey Mook-
I was listening last night to the scanner and I heard the dispatcher going on about a "cluster" in your neck of the woods. Something about 2 trains going into Lincoln, and light power running to Havelock because the crossover job (whatever that was) "went on the ground", which sounds like an oops on their part. Did you hear or see anything to that effect?? I know there's a lot of ground to cover between the yard on the west side and Havelock, and I can't narrow it down any. Just curious to see if you knew anything about any possible mishaps in your area.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by goboard

Let's see . . .

I have a bunch of minor stories, but here's one for starters.

I had just hired in with a freight railroad that used NJ transit back in the 90s. I was training in as a conductor. They ran a tight schedule between passenger trains, and were understandably slick with their moves. Maybe a little too slick.

So I'm getting my typical crew hazing on the first day, and we pull up to the branch junction at the westbound crossover. The crew drops off, and the engineer pulls ahead of the switch. We get permission from dispatch to line for the backing move, cross over, and shuffle into the eastbound branchline switch.

Since the conductor doesn't want to use the west lead of the wye (since it's blocked with other loads), we yank our fresh loads off the interchange to the main for a drop.

Now, up until this point in my railroad career I haven't much used a drop. I worked in a chemical plant, and that was a no-no. About the time I'm calculating the total moves in my head, we cut off, I get down at the branch switch to line the main, while the brakeman bleeds the air (and probably bottles the cut). Meanwhile, the *REAL* conductor is somewhere down on the siding, getting papers or something.

Our brakie was an older guy, but a real mushmouth. I have my radio turned up all the way trying to make out his phrases. Suddenly, I hear this:

"I've asdghr ghrfdklhkd !"

(What the heck?)

"ADSRIUYREG AHHHHH!!!"

(By now the engineer comes on.)

"What's that Rog?"

"I got aBAD werrtylon thebasdkend! I caafrfnthrdown!"

(The cut is coming toward me, steadily by now . . .)

"Oh, )(*&^! What's that?"

(About this time the cut is picking up some speed . . .)

"Where are you Joe, can you get it?"

I look at the cars. I look at the engine. Now I'm calculating that this thing will be really moving by the time it gets to me. I start to move toward the cut and realize by the time I run 25 feet it will have doubled its speed. Plus, there's no B-end facing me.

The engineer sees me stop, jumps down the steps from the 1500, (which is hard enough to do on a vertical ladder) and runs across the ballast, reaching the cars as they start to gently rock back and forth.

He grabs the ladder and drags himself onto a box, and manages to start winding on the handbrake, as they coast by me.

Now the conductor has run into the picture, hops up into the cab, as I stay put. My blood runs cold in the summer heat as I realize I may have to line this for a running couple.

"What's going on Rog? You got them?"

"Yeah, Bill hopped on the middle. . ."

And so ends my first exhilerating experience with my crew (not to be my last).Everyone breathes easier. No one says a word.

It turns out that the grade is a steady 0.5-1% in there all the way to Dover. It was about 8:00 in the morning with frequent commuter trains for the Midtown-Hoboken runs.

When the brakie let off the handbrake, he didn't realize it was bent. The wheel kept catching on the ribbed bulkhead. If the engineer hadn't caught it, we would have been playing catchup, not to mention clearing the main through to Morris Plains. . .

'Course, this was the same *conductor* (also road foreman) who was best buds with the GM, had run a few engines off the rails, and hit a series of hirail dumps in an unflagged section of track. And they ran 30-45 mph as "restricted speed" on a technicality in NORAC.

Needless to say, since I was a straight arrow (along with some other issues), I didn't last long . . . I can't tell you how many times it was a comedy of errors for me. Everytime something happened, it became my fault. And of course, I wasn't vested yet, so I couldn't breathe a word, crew loyalty and all that.

I won't mention the road, but things are probably safer and calmer now with the old owner out of the way . . .

I especially enjoyed the radio conversation. I have heard that "type" of conversation relayed by the old engineer more than once! He worked with both lanterns and radios over the years - neither one "talked" well in some people's hands!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:13 AM
Let's see . . .

I have a bunch of minor stories, but here's one for starters.

I had just hired in with a freight railroad that used NJ transit back in the 90s. I was training in as a conductor. They ran a tight schedule between passenger trains, and were understandably slick with their moves. Maybe a little too slick.

So I'm getting my typical crew hazing on the first day, and we pull up to the branch junction at the westbound crossover. The crew drops off, and the engineer pulls ahead of the switch. We get permission from dispatch to line for the backing move, cross over, and shuffle into the eastbound branchline switch.

Since the conductor doesn't want to use the west lead of the wye (since it's blocked with other loads), we yank our fresh loads off the interchange to the main for a drop.

Now, up until this point in my railroad career I haven't much used a drop. I worked in a chemical plant, and that was a no-no. About the time I'm calculating the total moves in my head, we cut off, I get down at the branch switch to line the main, while the brakeman bleeds the air (and probably bottles the cut). Meanwhile, the *REAL* conductor is somewhere down on the siding, getting papers or something.

Our brakie was an older guy, but a real mushmouth. I have my radio turned up all the way trying to make out his phrases. Suddenly, I hear this:

"I've asdghr ghrfdklhkd !"

(What the heck?)

"ADSRIUYREG AHHHHH!!!"

(By now the engineer comes on.)

"What's that Rog?"

"I got aBAD werrtylon thebasdkend! I caafrfnthrdown!"

(The cut is coming toward me, steadily by now . . .)

"Oh, )(*&^! What's that?"

(About this time the cut is picking up some speed . . .)

"Where are you Joe, can you get it?"

I look at the cars. I look at the engine. Now I'm calculating that this thing will be really moving by the time it gets to me. I start to move toward the cut and realize by the time I run 25 feet it will have doubled its speed. Plus, there's no B-end facing me.

The engineer sees me stop, jumps down the steps from the 1500, (which is hard enough to do on a vertical ladder) and runs across the ballast, reaching the cars as they start to gently rock back and forth.

He grabs the ladder and drags himself onto a box, and manages to start winding on the handbrake, as they coast by me.

Now the conductor has run into the picture, hops up into the cab, as I stay put. My blood runs cold in the summer heat as I realize I may have to line this for a running couple.

"What's going on Rog? You got them?"

"Yeah, Bill hopped on the middle. . ."

And so ends my first exhilerating experience with my crew (not to be my last).Everyone breathes easier. No one says a word.

It turns out that the grade is a steady 0.5-1% in there all the way to Dover. It was about 8:00 in the morning with frequent commuter trains for the Midtown-Hoboken runs.

When the brakie let off the handbrake, he didn't realize it was bent. The wheel kept catching on the ribbed bulkhead. If the engineer hadn't caught it, we would have been playing catchup, not to mention clearing the main through to Morris Plains. . .

'Course, this was the same *conductor* (also road foreman) who was best buds with the GM, had run a few engines off the rails, and hit a series of hirail dumps in an unflagged section of track. And they ran 30-45 mph as "restricted speed" on a technicality in NORAC.

Needless to say, since I was a straight arrow (along with some other issues), I didn't last long . . . I can't tell you how many times it was a comedy of errors for me. Everytime something happened, it became my fault. And of course, I wasn't vested yet, so I couldn't breathe a word, crew loyalty and all that.

I won't mention the road, but things are probably safer and calmer now with the old owner out of the way . . .
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:58 PM
LOL true, but the one word I've heard I'm pretty sure is still not allowed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:42 PM
kwboehm, maybe you should watch more TV, there aren't many words not allowed anymore.
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

And when I catch that guy there's gonna be hell to pay. He leaves gates, doors and refrigerators open. Leaves the butter out and eats all the pop tarts and leaves the empty box in the cabinet....all sorts of stuff.


I think he's been at my house, too [:D]. Worse, he's spoiling the dog. Every time I eat now, she's at my side begging. Of course, I have to give her something. And here I thought I lived alone (with the dog).

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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:18 AM
I was wondering if the railroads were supposed to stick to FCC guidelines on the radio. Lately I've heard one of the seven words you supposedly can't say on the air in a couple radio conversations on the railroad.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:51 PM
And when I catch that guy there's gonna be hell to pay. He leaves gates, doors and refrigerators open. Leaves the butter out and eats all the pop tarts and leaves the empty box in the cabinet....all sorts of stuff.
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

And now you're going to try and tell me it wasn't a Mookie that made all those circles on my lawn too?
And you think Mookies go around in circles?


Beats me, but the chocolate cake that was sitting on the counter is gone too........after rounding up the usual suspects it seems that either a Mookie or some oriental guy named Naut Mi ate it.
It was definitely Naut Mi!

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:05 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

And now you're going to try and tell me it wasn't a Mookie that made all those circles on my lawn too?
And you think Mookies go around in circles?


Beats me, but the chocolate cake that was sitting on the counter is gone too........after rounding up the usual suspects it seems that either a Mookie or some oriental guy named Naut Mi ate it.
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Posted by Saxman on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:45 AM
During the 1980's I worked at the Huckleberry Railroad and Crossroads Village in Flint, MI. The railroad's east loop circled by a campground called Timberwolf Campground. This campground had a store that sold sandwiches. On occassion we would call from the depot in Crossroads, order our sandwiches and tell them to make change for say a ten or twenty. The camp store would in turn pack the lunch and put the change in the bag. The train would approach the store give a long blast on the whistle through the money out attached to a piece of coal and retrieve the lunch.

This little procedure worked most of the time. However, one day my fireman forgot that he had change for a twenty in the bag and he bought only $5.00 worth of food! I watched as he carefully took his food from the bag, placed it on the paper towel he spread on the firemans seat and then promptly throw the bag into the fire box. The look on his face when he realized what he had just done was priceless. I thought he was going to jump in the fire box after the bag with his money. All he could do on the way back to Crossroads Village was mutter: "My change, my change and I gave them a twenty dollar bill."
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

And now you're going to try and tell me it wasn't a Mookie that made all those circles on my lawn too?
And you think Mookies go around in circles?

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:51 PM
Mookster in cahoots with the local gendarmerie? I am now considering a large detour via Kansas (Land of Ah's) next trip east. I now have to worry about looking through the rear view mirror prior to Lancaster County. Mooks let a large kitty-kat loose in the Platte River bottoms the last trip through. ( A plains ...er,um...mountain lion!, that showed up in Willy2's neighborhood a long way from any mountains....)

As for best radio story, a play by play account of a caboose drop gone bad over the caboose radio. Seems the crew forgot about the bad-ordered handbrake, bled the air off, dropped the car off the main line and forgot about the derail in the middle of the lead track going down hill. A big "Oh No...oooooo!" followed by the sound of wheels hitting ballast and ties when gravity and the derail actually worked.

Honorary runner-up: Blind geometry car shove caught by the on-board CAMERA as the car split an improperly thrown rigid switch and hit the dirt.

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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:39 PM
And now you're going to try and tell me it wasn't a Mookie that made all those circles on my lawn too?
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon


[}:)] Ever had a Mookie on your front porch?


Yeah, .....but ever since then my family has been wearing tin foil helmets, listening to the baby monitor and placing glasses of water around the house........[:D]
Not THAT kind of a Mookie.....
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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:34 PM

[}:)] Ever had a Mookie on your front porch?


Yeah, .....but ever since then my family has been wearing tin foil helmets, listening to the baby monitor and placing glasses of water around the house........[:D]
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwboehm

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie
[}:)] Ever had a Mookie on your front porch?


Can't say as I have.

The location from my last story is also where I arrested my 1st drunk driver. I was aimlessly wandering around town and I come up to the crossing with these 2 guys frantically waving me down. I also see this old Ford LTD / Crown Vic land yacht stuck in the ditch...right next to the mainline. I take a quick look and just as quickly make the observation that a train will not clear the vehicle. So I call dispatch to call the RR to close down the tracks until we get the obstruction cleared. Dispatch returns with some not-so-good news..."Railroad has been advised...however they have a train in the area and are unsure if they'll be able to get it stopped." Well, I continue dealing with the person that placed the vehicle where he did. Smelled nicely of Bud Light. Anyways, I just about get done making him do all the little doggie tricks, when I look to the west and see these headlights coming around the corner 1/2 mile away. About that time the lights & gates start going right behind me. You hear a nice loud, heart dropping into your stomach "OH S#!*" on my video camera. I start yelling at everyone to get awy from the tracks...after all that the train stops in the siding. The conductor of the train offered to move the vehicle for me...with the SD on the point. I kindly told him that was what I was trying to avoid. Tow truck showed up a short time later, moved the car, I got a DUI arrest and BNSF was quickly on the way w/in 15 minutes of pulling up..everyone was content.

Conductor was probably hoping to take the boat off your hands - make it a hood ornament until he could get to his home base!

Aren't drunks just the most fun! [xx(]

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:45 AM
One of the CSX locals (trains, that is) was stopped in a small town for a snack break. It's a common practice, although coming across that crossing and catching the front of a loco out of the corner of your eye can give you a start... I pass the place daily to and from work.

I have been listening to the dispatcher on the scanner trying to raise the local, to no avail. There are a couple of through freights that will soon need to pass through the area, and the local is tying them up.

I turn around, stop at the convenience store. The crew was easy to pick out - the conductor was just sitting down, the engineer was still in line. I walk up to the conductor, ask him "Are you guys the (insert train designation - left out to protect the guilty)?" He admitted as much. "The dispatcher is looking for you. " The conductor checks his handheld, but I knew it wouldn't pick up the DS from there, hollers at the engineer. They hustled back to their train and called in as they pulled away. Small town back to normal...

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Posted by kwboehm on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie
[}:)] Ever had a Mookie on your front porch?


Can't say as I have.

The location from my last story is also where I arrested my 1st drunk driver. I was aimlessly wandering around town and I come up to the crossing with these 2 guys frantically waving me down. I also see this old Ford LTD / Crown Vic land yacht stuck in the ditch...right next to the mainline. I take a quick look and just as quickly make the observation that a train will not clear the vehicle. So I call dispatch to call the RR to close down the tracks until we get the obstruction cleared. Dispatch returns with some not-so-good news..."Railroad has been advised...however they have a train in the area and are unsure if they'll be able to get it stopped." Well, I continue dealing with the person that placed the vehicle where he did. Smelled nicely of Bud Light. Anyways, I just about get done making him do all the little doggie tricks, when I look to the west and see these headlights coming around the corner 1/2 mile away. About that time the lights & gates start going right behind me. You hear a nice loud, heart dropping into your stomach "OH S#!*" on my video camera. I start yelling at everyone to get awy from the tracks...after all that the train stops in the siding. The conductor of the train offered to move the vehicle for me...with the SD on the point. I kindly told him that was what I was trying to avoid. Tow truck showed up a short time later, moved the car, I got a DUI arrest and BNSF was quickly on the way w/in 15 minutes of pulling up..everyone was content.
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwboehm

As of the 17th I'll have great viewing 24/7...from my front porch. SO I can already watch in my jammies and bunny slippers. As long as they don't screw up like they did there a few years ago...apparently someone missed a signal and they had a cornfielder right on the Main St. crossing (about 250 ft. from the soon-to-be-my porch). The local FD has a few pics of it. I remember one of the Sgts telling me of how she was doing reports at the FD when her typewriter started dancing across the table. She steps outside to check on the god-awful noise she was hearing and sees coal cars piling up on top of each other. I think the only injury was to the faulty engineer when he jumped from his train...broken leg I think. I heard the other crew rode it out & walked away.
[}:)] Ever had a Mookie on your front porch?

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Posted by FJ and G on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:38 AM
Couple weeks ago talking w/female VRE conductor. She said most horrible trip was from DC to Florida on Amtrak. In southern Virginia, her train ran over a 12-year-old boy who had trespassed. She heard his screams as the wheels ran over him.

Also, she said her train hits a lot of deer and she recalls picking antlers out of coupler.
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Posted by kwboehm on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:35 AM
As of the 17th I'll have great viewing 24/7...from my front porch. SO I can already watch in my jammies and bunny slippers. As long as they don't screw up like they did there a few years ago...apparently someone missed a signal and they had a cornfielder right on the Main St. crossing (about 250 ft. from the soon-to-be-my porch). The local FD has a few pics of it. I remember one of the Sgts telling me of how she was doing reports at the FD when her typewriter started dancing across the table. She steps outside to check on the god-awful noise she was hearing and sees coal cars piling up on top of each other. I think the only injury was to the faulty engineer when he jumped from his train...broken leg I think. I heard the other crew rode it out & walked away.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwboehm

How far is that from the Burlington Station downtown? I have a tendency to get a little turned around in downtown Lincoln. I know how the streets run as far as numbers and such, I'm just not too familiar with Lincoln. I think I have an idea of where you're talking about. Is it where all the lines from all directions come together to feed into the yards & Burlington Station? I think my buddy may have pointed that spot out to me as a good watching spot.
Lincoln central is very simple - all names and alphabet run east/west, all #'s run north/south. Depot is on 7th and P. I can be found just south and west of there - over O street viaduct (main drag) down to 1st or even 2nd and south to J.

You are right - that is where a lot of tracks from both the yard and behind the depot all merge into just 6 sets and then branch out again according to what and where.

Sat and Sun mornings are great times to watch and according to my ears - all during the night - about 11 pm to 5 am. Someday will show up in jammies and fuzzies and cause a train wreck! Someday....

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bnsfkline

Its not often we get a Die-hard Female Railfan...you are the only one I know Mookie...there should be an orginization called "National Womens Railfan Association" YOU should be president :) Just kidding
Don't have to be president - currently Queen - and that is taller! [}:)]

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Posted by bnsfkline on Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:33 AM
Its not often we get a Die-hard Female Railfan...you are the only one I know Mookie...there should be an orginization called "National Womens Railfan Association" YOU should be president :) Just kidding
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Posted by kwboehm on Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:51 AM
How far is that from the Burlington Station downtown? I have a tendency to get a little turned around in downtown Lincoln. I know how the streets run as far as numbers and such, I'm just not too familiar with Lincoln. I think I have an idea of where you're talking about. Is it where all the lines from all directions come together to feed into the yards & Burlington Station? I think my buddy may have pointed that spot out to me as a good watching spot.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 9:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwboehm

No, dispatched thru Plattsmouth. I only go as far west as Eagle & Greenwood & the new scales on I-80
[:o)] Mookie is SO excited, she can hardly stand it. We are practically neighbors! We are getting more Nebraska people on here all the time!

Come to Lincoln sometime and go to 1st and J. One of the nicer train watching spots! Look for only female in area, looking very subversive with binoculars and pen and paper...(but only on weekends)

Mookie! [:D]

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