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Ghost Roundhouse
Posted by zgardner18 on Monday, October 9, 2006 11:26 AM

Guys,

Check this out, I was on Google Earth following the tracks through Utah when I came to the town of Lynndyl and found the remains of what looked like a very large Roundhouse and table. 

Does anyone have any information on this? 

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Posted by MStLfan on Monday, October 9, 2006 2:59 PM

Lynndyl is on the UP main line from Salt Lake City to Los Angeles (Los Angeles and Salt Lake). There is / was a branch to the west to an Intermountain powerplant. To the east is a UP (former Oregon Short line) line to Provo.

According to my SPV railroad atlas of North America Colorado and Utah.

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Posted by Datafever on Monday, October 9, 2006 11:26 PM
From www.uen.org--

Lynndyl was the first railroad junction south of Salt Lake City. One line went east to Provo, the other line went north and on to Salt Lake City.

All of the trains stopped in Lynndyl. Train crews changed and the locomotives were repaired in the round house. There were three hotels or places where the train crews could rent rooms to stay in. The Beanery was the name of the eating place. Lynndyl was a booming town in the early 1940’s with about 1,200 people living there.

The very first people who came to Lynndyl were not the home building kind, but lived in tent houses and came and went to other places. By about 1907 some of the railroad workers brought their families and a community was started.

In 1914 the Highline Canal was finished and the first farming was started in the area.

In 1919 a school east of town was built. It had four large classrooms, a library, and indoor restrooms.

and from utahrails.net--
  • Heavy maintenance (wheel and boiler work) on Shays was done at Lynndyl, then at Provo after Lynndyl was closed as a locomotive repair shop (when?).
  • Locals that worked out of Lynndyl included the St. John Local, the Tintic Local, the Delta Local, and the Provo Mixed.
  • The Lynndyl switcher was 2-8-0 number 6010.
and from www.zoominfo.com--

During a conversation in June 1977 with the author, Frank Acord, UP's Superintendent of Motive Power & Machinery, remembered many parts of his initial service on UP as a mechanic at both Lynndyl and Provo, Utah. According to Mr. Acord, UP's Shay locomotives at Tintic were always maintained at the engine house at Tintic. For more extensive repairs such as boiler work or wheel work, they were sent to the shops at Lynndyl, where there was large brick roundhouse, with several add-on all-concrete stalls. Mr. Acord remembered that during the 1940-1943 period that he worked at Provo, the Shay locomotives came to the Provo Joint Shops (with Utah Railway) several times for wheel and boiler work because UP had closed the shops at Lynndyl.

Hope this helps!

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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:34 AM
Now THIS is truly interesting stuff and I would like very much to see more threads like this one and not the typcal BS we have so very much of (sorry folks, that's just the way I feel this morning).
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:46 AM

 eolafan wrote:
Now THIS is truly interesting stuff and I would like very much to see more threads like this one and not the typcal BS we have so very much of (sorry folks, that's just the way I feel this morning).

I am very much inclinded to agree with you on this point, Jim. With my interest in old ghost towns as well as railroads, this kind of information is always welcome here and I'd like to see a lot more of it. We should also count ourselves fortunate that there is so much information being shared with others via the internet, and programs such as Google Earth that are out there. When I first downloaded Google Earth I was able to get a bird's eye view of the U.P. and BNSF yard trackage in the Denver area and an overview of the Colorado Railroad Museum at Golden.

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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:24 AM
That's pretty neat, I like things like that. The funny thing is that just the other day I looked up the yard where I work on Google Maps. We have a ghost roundhouse too. I knew there used to be much more to the yard than there is now but it's cool to actually see the traces of what used to be there. Here is a picture:



You can see it in the upper half of the picture just to the left of center. If you want to look around more here's a link to the map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=wall,+pa&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=40.398121,-79.7825&spn=0.006005,0.013561&t=k

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Posted by zgardner18 on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:42 AM
 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

 eolafan wrote:
Now THIS is truly interesting stuff and I would like very much to see more threads like this one and not the typcal BS we have so very much of (sorry folks, that's just the way I feel this morning).

I am very much inclinded to agree with you on this point, Jim. With my interest in old ghost towns as well as railroads, this kind of information is always welcome here and I'd like to see a lot more of it. We should also count ourselves fortunate that there is so much information being shared with others via the internet, and programs such as Google Earth that are out there. When I first downloaded Google Earth I was able to get a bird's eye view of the U.P. and BNSF yard trackage in the Denver area and an overview of the Colorado Railroad Museum at Golden.

CANADIANPACIFIC2816

You see, that is why I log in everyday to learn from others about railroad history and modeling tips.  I am big on railroad history right now.  I think that my long hours of viewing Google Earth and seeing old routes has made me interested.  I see some facinating workmanship or railroading as I try to understand what was their motive.  One of my favorite spots to visit on Goole Earth is the Corrizo Gorge in Southern California.  That line is amazing.  Here are a few other things that have great interest to me:

The high wood bridge in Goat Canyon

Feather River's Kettie Wye:

The connection of the McCloud River RR

Mullan Pass Tunnel and bridge in Montan:

And these are only a few things I have found. 

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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:54 PM

Guys, how do you transport an image from Google Earth to this forum, I tried saving the image or copy/cut/paste and it would not work.  My reason for asking is I have one to offer as a local example.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:25 PM
 eolafan wrote:

Guys, how do you transport an image from Google Earth to this forum, I tried saving the image or copy/cut/paste and it would not work.  My reason for asking is I have one to offer as a local example.

What you need to do is once you get the picture that you like, go up to file and scroll down to save image (Ctrl+S) and save it to your desktop.  Then go to a place like Photobucket.com and upload the picture.  Next you highlight the 3rd box under the photo that says Img, right click and copy, then past on this page and you're done

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:27 PM
Google Earth will not run on my XP.  Once I get it installed, it gets to the login screen, tells me it's trying and then locks up. I have gotten a lot of use out of the Terraserver, but that is old B&W pix. Google looks much nicer in color.

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Posted by JSGreen on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:25 PM
could be a graphics card issue.  They are pretty specific about tyhe capabilities you need...if yoiu havent recently downloaded it, you might try downloading the newest version, i Upgraded today.....
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Posted by tatans on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:32 PM
Great stuff eh? I wondered what ever happened to the roundhouse in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, this was a huge divisional point on the C.P.R. mainline, it is now a large heavy haul service depot. They removed a lot of the old steam facility buildings and replaced them with typical steel sheds, I checked on goole earth and sure enough the turntable is still there, it seems to be operable too. I'm also checking around and finding old abandoned railway lines in the area,  great fun ! !
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Posted by Datafever on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:12 AM
 grampaw pettibone wrote:
Google Earth will not run on my XP.  Once I get it installed, it gets to the login screen, tells me it's trying and then locks up. I have gotten a lot of use out of the Terraserver, but that is old B&W pix. Google looks much nicer in color.


You might try to switch between DirectX mode and OpenGL mode.  My XP runs fine in one mode, but the system crashes in the other modeAngry [:(!] - and I don't remember which is which.  I just know that it works in the mode that I have it set in now.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:21 AM
 zgardner18 wrote:
 eolafan wrote:

Guys, how do you transport an image from Google Earth to this forum, I tried saving the image or copy/cut/paste and it would not work.  My reason for asking is I have one to offer as a local example.

What you need to do is once you get the picture that you like, go up to file and scroll down to save image (Ctrl+S) and save it to your desktop.  Then go to a place like Photobucket.com and upload the picture.  Next you highlight the 3rd box under the photo that says Img, right click and copy, then past on this page and you're done

I did. All I did was save the image to My Documents. Then am now useing my town as a Screensaver. Totaly cool.
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Posted by tatans on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:59 AM
Just got a note re: turntable in Moose Jaw, can it be possible when the old roundhouse was torn down they also ripped up the old turntable which was built in 1913??? Big Question?? supposedly a NEW  turntable was built in the 1970 or 1980's to accommodate the diesels. Does anyone out there have any information as to the actual situation, there is now an operating turntable on the facililty ,question is , is this the old one or the new one .  mysteries----mysteries. I shall dig around for more info.
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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:11 PM
I finally got Google Earth to work, don't know how, but anyway. First thing I found the old roundhouse in town and its turntable plain as day. This sort of stuff makes it worth getting up each day and coming to this forum. Thanks guys

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Posted by MStLfan on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:05 PM
 Datafever wrote:
and from utahrails.net--
  • Heavy maintenance (wheel and boiler work) on Shays was done at Lynndyl, then at Provo after Lynndyl was closed as a locomotive repair shop (when?).
  • Locals that worked out of Lynndyl included the St. John Local, the Tintic Local, the Delta Local, and the Provo Mixed.
  • The Lynndyl switcher was 2-8-0 number 6010.

and from www.zoominfo.com--

During a conversation in June 1977 with the author, Frank Acord, UP's Superintendent of Motive Power & Machinery, remembered many parts of his initial service on UP as a mechanic at both Lynndyl and Provo, Utah. According to Mr. Acord, UP's Shay locomotives at Tintic were always maintained at the engine house at Tintic. For more extensive repairs such as boiler work or wheel work, they were sent to the shops at Lynndyl, where there was large brick roundhouse, with several add-on all-concrete stalls. Mr. Acord remembered that during the 1940-1943 period that he worked at Provo, the Shay locomotives came to the Provo Joint Shops (with Utah Railway) several times for wheel and boiler work because UP had closed the shops at Lynndyl.

Hope this helps!

Just about every time I come to Trains.com a learn something! Didn't know UP had shays! What did they use them for? Mining branches in the area?

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Posted by LehighValleyman on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:24 PM
supposedly ina town 9mi from where i live there is an old turntable, but i dont know if it is there. the branch line, The LEHIGH VALLEY's NAPLES branch is what ran on the edge of my property. i dont know if it is there anymore, the last pics i have seen of it were taken in 1996? i believe. there is also an old turntable and round house, STILL UP!! in manchesterNY. but they are in major states of disrepair and vegetation grows like crazy on the old turntable in the spring and summer. the house has no rails in it anymore. the old yard is gone, all but gone. only one track meanders it's way thru. the main of the Ontario Midland, or Ontario western, something similar to that.....
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Posted by yippinyahoo on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:10 PM
This is awesome!  I checked out my hometown & found two ghost roundhouses - one ex-B&O (their extensive shops were still standing until the mid 90s) and one ex-Erie on the west end of town.  Both were division points at one time.  The Erie coaling towers survive but in near-rubble condition

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:24 PM

http://http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Milby+street,+houston+texas&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=29.744738,-95.340959&spn=0.001826,0.004538&t=k&om=1

Milby street round house and turntable.

Was a round house eons ago, still have a working turntable.

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Posted by Datafever on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:32 PM
 marcimmeker wrote:

Just about every time I come to Trains.com a learn something! Didn't know UP had shays! What did they use them for? Mining branches in the area?

greetings,

Marc Immeker



Here's a good article to answer that question - The story of UP's Shay locomotives, and the LA&SL Tintic Subdivision where they worked. http://utahrails.net/utahrails/tintic.php
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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, October 13, 2006 11:02 AM

Guys,

I was looking around and noticed that some turntables are still around but the roundhouses aren't.  Do you know if they still use the turntable but why would they rip down the roundhouse. 

Here's a few examples:

Bakersfield, CA.

Helena, MT.

Klamath Falls, OR.

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Posted by JSGreen on Friday, October 13, 2006 12:04 PM
Here is another turntable in Missoula, MT, now a part of the Montana Rail Link.



it looks like they still use it to turn the power...not sure if they actually do, because I havent seen it in use. 
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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, October 13, 2006 12:10 PM

 JSGreen wrote:
Here is another turntable in Missoula, MT, now a part of the Montana Rail Link.



it looks like they still use it to turn the power...not sure if they actually do, because I havent seen it in use. 

JSGreen,

your picture didn't come through so please try again.  You don't live in Helena do you?  I used to live in Bozeman and still wish that I did.  One of my all time favorite places to railfan was Mullan Pass.

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Posted by JSGreen on Friday, October 13, 2006 12:56 PM
Interesting.  It shows up when I am looking at it....but not for you.  Dont know why that would be. Anyway, here is the link to the picture itself...

Missoula Turntable.

If that doesnt work, try a cut and paste...
http://picasaweb.google.com/jimandcathygreen/FerroEquestrianism/photo#4985414012210315282

We live in Missoula....for all of two months now.  Love it here!
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, October 13, 2006 1:43 PM

JSGreen-

I could not see your posted picture, it was a red cross. After I used your Missoula Turntable link, the picture posted now works. Hmmmm..

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, October 13, 2006 3:19 PM
 nanaimo73 wrote:

JSGreen-

I could not see your posted picture, it was a red cross. After I used your Missoula Turntable link, the picture posted now works. Hmmmm..

Same thing happened for me.

JSGreen, sure you might like it now but wait for the winter.  My buddy who lived in Mussoula loved it too but said that it got really cold.  I guess a lot colder than Bozeman.

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Posted by JSGreen on Friday, October 13, 2006 5:12 PM
not sure what is happening with the pictures, but it may  be related to using the google picture web site, Picasaweb.  Be interesting to know if another one acts the same way, or if your computer "learned" how to find "Picasa". 

At this point the concept of cold doesnt worry me, but we will see if parctice matches theory....
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, October 13, 2006 5:19 PM
     Does a Zombie Roundhouse count?  We have a two-stall Illinois Central roundhouse that is now part of a junkyard complex.Dead [xx(]

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:17 AM

 JSGreen wrote:
not sure what is happening with the pictures, but it may  be related to using the google picture web site, Picasaweb.  Be interesting to know if another one acts the same way, or if your computer "learned" how to find "Picasa". 
 

I went off of the forum and deleted my temporary internet pages and the same thing happened again.

Double hmmmm...

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