Rampant Paranoia and The Beech Grove Shops.

[wallyworld]

I thought I had heard about every delusional conspiracy theory but this one should win some sort of Academy Award for paranoia. I was browsing search engines for "secret tunnels ' to dig up some information on the urban legend of England's "strategic reserve" of steam engines hidden away in a tunnel, as well as the former strategic reserve of engines over in I believe that were stored in Sweden, one of which is now operating on the Belfast and Moosehead..when I came across this. You have to see it to believe it. Welcome to The Twilight Zone..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/170906Camp.htm

[fuzzybroken]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/170906Camp.htm

Wow!  That's great!!!  I think I blinked when the video of the shackle boxcars was shown...

[wallyworld]

Where's Agent Muldaur when we need him? I could'nt figure out the boxcar with shackles you were referring to, so I ran a search.. LOL..it just gets more schizoid ..UN Boxcars? Some of these guys have a theory these white box cars are being delivered and labelled to KCS as that all of this is for a mass deportation of certain illegal immigrants..the internet rumour mill churns on..

This is what I dug up.

" A new found fear of trains. Many researchers have cited the existence of over 107, white, UN railroad cars that have been built by independent contracters in the United States.
These cars can hold dozens of prisoners and have, on numerous occasions, been shown to have 135 human shackles in each car. These would be the cars that FEMA would transfer such terrorists/dissidents to their forced labor, internment, or concentration camps.[C I L F=civilian inmate labor facility] A terrorist who may have only been a peaceful protestor at the Republican National Convention. Or perhaps an individual who had an interest in the wrong book at the library. (A reference to the post 9/11 “What if America, Wasn’t America?” line of commercials.)
Upon the instigation of martial law, FEMA’s infamous “RED and BLUE” List, with over 6 million Americans marked for priority arrest, would determine the location of your camp and your fate. It would be the beginning of many more arrests to come. But even if you deny the existence of that list, this one fact cannot be ignored: someone, for some reason, would be on a train to a FEMA camp in a time of national emergency.
Speaking on anonymity, an employee of a manufacturer of railcars stated that Gunderson Rail Car Co. received a contract to build over 400 boxcars. These boxcars were ordered and paid for by the UN. They were white and they had shackles built into them. Shackles possibly for a brother, a sister, a mother, or you. Another company was making the boxcars as well. A company called Thrall Railcar. Thrall Rail Car merged with Trinity Industries, Inc. in October of 2001 to form the Trinity Rail Group.[One location of ‘Trinity’ is Springfield, Missouri, close to The Burlington Northern Railway."

You've just entered another dimension....next stop..The Twilight Zone..

[da Milwaukee beerNut]

They weren't able to capture the Hoosiers guarding the installation on camera?

[csmith9474]

These types scare the heck out of me. I hope they don't get too far away from their meds, because if they do, who knows what might happen. The museum that I was affiliated with in San Antonio has both an Air Force AND Army switcher!!!!! We have barbed wire too. What does this mean?????

[chad thomas]

Did this come from White_supremisist_on_meth.com ?

[wallyworld]

On the serious side, what's scarier is the lack of critical thinking that is based on" it must be true because I read it on the internet.." Ninety nine percent of the time, these entertainingly twisted scenarios come from someone who has a book to sell...Whats even more amazing, is that rumours like this take on nine lives of their own in a sort of a self perpetuating, alternate reality all their own. My favorite part was the expos'e of the insidious turnstyles being installed...

[edblysard]

But you have to keep track of how many "units" per boxcar, right?

[wallyworld]

Or, how many Happy Meals to hand out..

[chad thomas]

Nah, It's all about the meds (or lack of).

[edblysard]

Ritalin to every third one?

[chad thomas]

As Dan would say, "It's not just for breakfast anymore".

[Murphy Siding]

. " A new found fear of trains. ..............." You've just entered another dimension....next stop..The Twilight Zone..

     Thank goodness!  This will help cut down the number tresspassers on railroad property getting hit by trains-right?

[wallyworld]

Kofi Annan will confront the rabble at the turnstyle with a bullhorn.. "Take your Happy Meal..and Mountain Dew along with your Ritalin...come along peacefully..there will be on board entertainment this evening..yes..a new episode of Sponge Bob!

[PBenham]

Good old Amtrak! I wonder if there are "showers" inside there!and. Then, what else can Amtrak do to make money? Beech Grove Federal Detention Center! The prisoners could fix the many,many derelict Amcars from all their wrecks in the last decade plus!!

[jclass]

There's trouble in Toontown!!!!  Where's Eddie Valiant??

[BaltACD]

Barely even worthy of The Onion

[Anonymous]

I came across the white boxcar scenario a few years ago. Interestingly enough, I used to work at Gundersons in Portland, Or. I did some research into the subject and a lot of these conspiracy nuts or "patriots" were saying that these boxcars were being built by FMC. FMC was bought out by gundersons about 15 years before I started working there.

For a real laugh, google up Fema detention centers in America and see what comes up. I am currently going throught the list validating every claim here. Well, it is more like disproving the wingnuts. Read closely at the camp locations. You will see just how vague the descriptions are. I have done 6 states so far and have found nothing that validates the claimed existance of 600+ secret camps littered accross America that are rumored to exist but at the same time, not one of these "patriots' can find. Think about it. 10+ camps per state, and none of to be found. If you are wondering why I am doing this, I just need some mental exercise in doing internet research. Besides, it gives me a chance to really use and get good with google earth.

[bnsfkline]

Does anyone even HAVE photos to validate the existance of the FEMA cars?

I think this is too stupid. I swear. Does the director of FEMA have a life? Uh-oh. For saying that I may be going to beech grove! I better watch what I say!   

 If this is all true, FEMA is acting like the NAZI's in the WWII era operating death camps. And with a dumb president at the helm of the country, he won't even order an investigation.

 FEMA, The nazi's of the 21st Century.

[coborn35]

Did this come from White_supremisist_on_meth.com ?

OH BOY ROTFLMAO!!!

We had some Neo Nazi's up here awhile ago. They pretty much got scared away by us Northerners.

[miniwyo]

HAHAHA!!1  Notice they were in theese secure areas, and all they saw was a helicopter fly over, most likely unrelated. I love how theese people play things into things that are what they are and nothing else.

[Gluefinger]

Does anyone even HAVE photos to validate the existance of the FEMA cars?

I think this is too stupid. I swear. Does the director of FEMA have a life? Uh-oh. For saying that I may be going to beech grove! I better watch what I say!   

 If this is all true, FEMA is acting like the NAZI's in the WWII era operating death camps. And with a dumb president at the helm of the country, he won't even order an investigation.

 FEMA, The nazi's of the 21st Century.

 

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

 

I liked in the video when they mentioned that the ancient 44-tonner "indicated government involvement"

[eolafan]

Yep, paranoia is right!  I'll bet the "woman" who narrated this piece of film was wearing a tie-dye shirt, dirty jeans, Indian sandles, cheap American Indian jewelery, funny octogon shaped and red colored sun glasses and a great big peace sign medalion around her neck...and her name is something like "squeaky" or something just as stupid.  I thought we left all that conspiracy crap way back in the 1960's folks!  Oh well, just goes to show it takes all kinds of people to make our crazy mixed up world, doesn't it?

[MOPACnut]

I was about ready to post a thread about this beech grove video but it looks like everybody allready knows about it. I hope it'll continue to be used for train repair, but some of that stuff did seem out of place for a repair shop.

Of course aren't some people whining about more prision capacity being needed? (got an opinion on that but it'd be).

If newcomers are wondering here's the link:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlKg5ZXPu0

[csmith9474]

I hate to jump into old threads, but I did finally find something on the "boxcars with shackles" a while back (with pictures). Appearantly one of these groups came across an auto-rack and interpreted it to be some sort of prison car. I would assume that they mistook some tie downs or something like that in the car as shackles. There was a pic of them standing in front of the rack, and a short video that I did not waste my time watching.

[zugmann]

Now all we have to do is park some auto-max cars at beech grove.  That would get their heads spinning...

[MOPACnut]

Now all we have to do is park some auto-max cars at beech grove.  That would get their heads spinning...

LOL yeah i just found a video of an auto train on youtube labeled as "FEMA cars"

[garyla]

Has Rev. Jeremiah Wright weighed in on this story yet?  He seems to have an affinity for the delusionals in our midst, though maybe these aren't his favorite delusionals.

 

 

 

[carnej1]

 I've read some of this stuff on the web and in the case of this particular strain of lunacy it seems to be more appealing to anti-Federalist/militia/survival types then the radical left/"NeoYippie" types, after all the latter tend to be pro United Nations. The two groups do seem to find common ground on some tin foil hat topics such as 9/11/01 conspiracies but it tends to be the White Nationalist/Impending Apocalypse/Turner's Diaries(Tim McVeigh's favorite read) followers that think the UN will invade the US (which from the perspective of many on the extreme left would probably be seen as desirable)....

 I read one guys rantings where he cited the number of Chinese containers (which he called "double stacked boxcars")going by on his local rail line as proof of an impending "one world government" takeover...

 

[rrnut282]

Don't write off the tin hat crowd just yet.  Amtrak announced cut-backs in the jobs assigned to Beech Grove and impending layoffs.  (to make room for more prisoners)