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Another "On this Date in Railroad History"
Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:04 AM
This is From ArcaMax History and Quotes:

1.  On September 27, 1825, the Stockton and Darlington Railway opened, 
      becoming the first permanent steam locomotive railway.

2.  Also on September 27, 1825, in England, George Stephenson operated
the first locomotive to pull a passenger train.

Can anyone else find any railroad trivia facts for this date in history?
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:13 AM

While I am not sure how to go about finding significant items for this particular date in history, I remember a time when a lot of people were playing the game "Trivial Pursuit". I have often thought that it would be fun to create a game like this just for us railroad enthusiasts. Has anyone else out there had basically the same thought??

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:01 AM

Cherokee Woman, I did some digging into today's date in railroad history and I have come up with a few more entries.

September 27, 1835

Phineas Davis, inventor of the first practical coal burning locomotive, is killed when his invention, the York, derails.

September 27, 1864

Jesse James gang surprise attack train: 150 killed.

September 27, 1890

Farmers Transportation Company is renamed the Columbia Railway & Navigation Company (CR&N).

September 27, 1923

37 killed in train accident in Casper, Wyoming.*

*I am guessing this happened on the CB&Q, although I could be wrong.

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Posted by miniwyo on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:31 PM
 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

September 27, 1923

37 killed in train accident in Casper, Wyoming.*

*I am guessing this happened on the CB&Q, although I could be wrong.

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I believe it was on the CB&Q.

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:22 AM

September 28, 1956

C&O completes dieselization.

September 28, 1981

Illinois Central becomes first RoadRailer operator.

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Posted by yippinyahoo on Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:09 PM
Jesse James killed 150 people in a train robbery???  Shock [:O]  I had no idea
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:24 PM

 yippinyahoo wrote:
Jesse James killed 150 people in a train robbery???  Shock [:O]  I had no idea
I was thinking about this, this morning. I think that more than likely this is a typo on the part of the person who authored the web site where I had gotten the information from. Add a 0 to 15 and presto! You have 150.

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Posted by rrandb on Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:42 PM
I beleive in there attempt to stop the train they caused a catastrophic train wreck that resulted in a huge loss of life. Not hard to do with wooden coaches, telescoping and the ensuing fires.
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:55 PM

 rrandb wrote:
I beleive in there attempt to stop the train they caused a catastrophic train wreck that resulted in a huge loss of life. Not hard to do with wooden coaches, telescoping and the ensuing fires.
I am glad you brought this up, it is a possibility that I didn't even think of. And it certainly is plausible, considering that it would have happened during the Civil War era or shortly thereafter.

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Posted by videomaker on Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:06 PM
150 Killed ! That has to be a misprint ...I dont hink the James Gang killed that many people in their whole carrer! I could be wrong tho...Danny
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:18 PM

 videomaker wrote:
150 Killed ! That has to be a misprint ...I dont hink the James Gang killed that many people in their whole carrer! I could be wrong tho...Danny
Someone should do some research into this subject, because I too doubt that the James Gang would have killed even a third of that number.

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Posted by rrandb on Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:07 PM
Here is a link that staes on September 27th, 1864 " The James Gang suprise attack a train. 150 killed." From the NHRS i.e. National Railway Historical Society.  This act and the national attention it drew was the begining of the end for whatever pouplar support the James Gang enjoyed.   http://avenue.org/nrhs/histsep.htm
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Friday, September 29, 2006 4:23 PM

September 29, 1849

New Haven Railroad provides first passenger train service to Peekskill, NY.

September 29, 1890

Railroads forfeit unused land grants, which had been granted as inducement for constructing new lines.

September 29th 1913

Rudolph C.K. Diesel, inventor of the diesel engine, dies at 55.

September 29, 1957

0-3 #539 moved to Ester Short Park, in Vancouver, Wa (SP&S Ry).

September 29, 1962

Last steam-powered run on the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range.

September 29, 1967

Last RPO run on the Southern Pacific.

September 29, 1967

Monon becomes freight only.

September 29, 1978

VIA Rail Canada takes over Canadian Pacific passenger operations.

September 29, 1988

Washington, D.C.'s Union Station returns to service as passenger terminal.

 

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Posted by ChuckHawkins on Friday, September 29, 2006 5:03 PM
I, too, am doubtful about this information, no matter where it's posted. First off, at that point in time there wasn't any "James" gang. I believe Jesse was serving with Quantrill, and Frank may not have been active in the partisan forces, by then. Secondly, I could understand Quantrill attacking a Union army train but I would assume his tactic would be "wrecking" it, rather than engaging in a firefight with the occupants(they could have too much cover from the cars). I find it difficult to believe that at the speeds involved you would have that many casualties, umless if fell off a mountainside that would be difficult to find in Missouri or Kansas.



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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, September 29, 2006 5:08 PM
 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

September 28, 1981

Illinois Central becomes first RoadRailer operator.

Somebody obviously forgot about the C&O's use of RoadRailers in the late 1950s and early 1960s!

Where do you think these Johnny-come-latelies got the idea?

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Friday, September 29, 2006 5:27 PM
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 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

September 28, 1981

Illinois Central becomes first RoadRailer operator.

Somebody obviously forgot about the C&O's use of RoadRailers in the late 1950s and early 1960s!

Where do you think these Johnny-come-latelies got the idea?

My source of information is www.Railwaystation.com . I suspect that a lot of the information in this web site is wrong. And I wish I knew of another online source that I could use to verify a lot of what I am coming up with. If anyone has any suggestions, I will certainly try them.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, September 29, 2006 6:31 PM

Don't worry, Ray, we're not blaming you.

As for a source, you've got the best possible source right here, with a lot of well-informed correspondents, experienced railroaders, and historians.  No malice in corrections--just a desire to set the records straight whenever possible.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, September 29, 2006 6:58 PM
 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

September 27, 1864

Jesse James gang surprise attack train: 150 killed.

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     Actually, Quantrill's Raiders, the renegade Confederate gang that Jesse James rode with during the Civil War, ransacked  Lawrence, Kansas, killing 150 people.  I don't think a train was involved.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:40 PM
On September 30, 1981, Amtrak's Chicago Dubuque, Iowa Black Hawk is
discontinued. 
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:35 PM

September 30, 1877

The Southern Pacific enters Arizona at Yuma, becoming the first railroad in the Territory.

 

September 30, 1914

Great Northern Pacific Steamship Co. (GNPSS) incorporated.

And Cherokee Woman already covered the the detail of Amtrak discontinuing the Chicago to Dubuque, Iowa Black Hawk run, so I will not list that.

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Sunday, October 1, 2006 7:39 AM

October 1, 1834

Patent issued to Ross Winans for the first locomotive with six or eight driving wheels.

October 1, 1861

Theodore Judah recommends Donner Pass route for the Central Pacific through the Sierra Nevadas.

October 1st, 1931

Cotton Belt's Blue Streak freight service begins.

October 1, 1943

T.F. Dixon becomes Vice-President & General Manager of SP&S Ry.

October 1, 1964

San Francisco cable cars declared a national landmark.

October 1, 1967

Last run of Chicago, Burlington & Quincy's Fast Mail.

October 1, 1979

Amtrak's National Limited, Lone Star, North Coast Hiawatha and Hilltopper are discontinued.

October 1, 1988

Last run of Canadian National narrow gauge in Newfoundland.

(I wasn't even aware that the CN operated narrow gauge trackage in that part of the world........interesting!)

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Monday, October 2, 2006 6:49 AM

October 02, 1872

Colorado's second largest narrow gauge railroad, the Denver, South Park & Pacific is incorporated.

October 02, 1882

Asked whether he operates his railroads for the public benefit, William Vanderbuilt answers: "The public be damned! What does the public care for railroads, except to get as much out of them for as little consideration as possible!"

October 02, 1960

Last steam run on the Illinois Central.

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 7:58 AM

October 03, 1837

The Sandusky, the first locomotive equipped with a whistle, makes it's first run from Patterson to Brunswick, New Jersey.

October 03, 1937

Railroad unions win 44 cent per day pay raise.

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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 8:53 AM
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October 1, 1988

Last run of Canadian National narrow gauge in Newfoundland.

(I wasn't even aware that the CN operated narrow gauge trackage in that part of the world........interesting!)

CN only took over the old Newfoundland Railway in 1949, after Newfoundland joined Canada, as part of the agreement regarding Confederation.  I was recently up there, and this is the report I posted elsewhere about the trip.  It includes a few links to the history of the Newfoundland Railway.

As you may remember, we made a trip to Newfoundland this summer, and I’m just now getting around to editing my photos and writing up some notes.  Thought I’d share a few thoughts about the trip. I was born in Newfoundland, but not raised there.  And I’ve never been all that interested in the history of the railroad there until I started preparing for this trip.

 

To give a quick, condensed summary of the Newfoundland Railway, suffice it to say that it was built between 1881 – 1898.  It was narrow gauge, built to 3’-6” gauge.  About 550 miles of mainline from the capital, St John’s to Port-aux-Basques on the southwestern coast. 

Including all branch lines, total mileage was around 900 miles (depending on at what period you were measuring), making it the longest narrow gauge system in North America.  After Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949, the Newfoundland Railway came under the control of Canadian National.  Towards the end of its run, they changed the name to Terra Transport. 

Like many railroads serving large, underpopulated regions, it was a money losing proposition.  When government funds starting running low, and with the competition from the newly completed Trans-Canada Highway in 1956, traffic decreased and deficits mounted.  Service was terminated in 1988.  Tracks were torn up almost immediately afterwards.  Very little track or equipment remains today.

For more detailed information see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Railway

Okay, enough background.  We landed at St Johns, and spent most of our time out on the Bonavista Peninsula, so my train watching was limited to spots in between those points, which covers basically the eastern section of the island.

Here’s a map of the island:

http://home.earthlink.net/~lkstrong/NfldMap.htm

Considering that I had the wife and junior in tow, I got to see a good number of sites.  We hit the Railway Coastal Museum, Avondale, Whitbourne, Clarenville, Trinity Loop, Bonavista and Pt Union.

 

Best Museum

Wow, they sure did a good job on restoring the old main station and railroad headquarters building in St John’s and turning it into the “Railway Coastal Museum”.  Good exhibits with lots of photos and displays.  Learned a lot about the Coastal Boats too.  (The railroad also operated a fleet of small coastal boats providing passenger and freight service to outlying posts).  Nice job restoring and/or preserving the building.  Too bad they didn’t have more rolling stock outside, but the museum itself is excellent.  Here’s a shot of the building.

 

Best preserved rolling stock

I have to hand it to Bonavista.  The locomotive (#932) and cars there were in the best condition of those that we saw.  The station building is nicely maintained and serves as a senior citizen center.  I have no idea how much the current condition resembles the station as it was when it was in service.  #932 is a class NF210 diesel, 1200 hp, built by EMD in the late 50’s.

 

Biggest (pleasant) surprise

I’m originally from Pt Union.  Of course, the trains were gone from that particular branch long before I came along.  In fact, I never associated trains with Pt Union.  I knew they had recently turned the old station into a museum, but didn’t really expect to see much.  Turns out that they did a very nice job of reconditioning the building.  It was moved some 50-100 yards from where it originally stood.  While about half the station is dedicated to the town in

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 8:58 AM
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October 03, 1937

Railroad unions win 44 cent per day pay raise.

That's about 550 percent of our most recent pay raise!Angry [:(!]

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 6:44 AM
On October 4, 1883, the first run of the Orient Express took place.


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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 10:50 AM

October 04, 1904

First day of New York City subway has 350,000 riders.

October 04, 1967

Santa Fe president John Reed announces that the railroad plans to drop all but a handful of first class passenger trains.

October 04, 1969

Last wooden passenger subway cars retired at Brooklyn.

October 04, 1970

First excursion train on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad.

October 04, 1980

Smithsonian reactivates 2-4-0 John Bull.

October 04, 1981

Amtrak's Chicago to East Peoria Prairie Marksman is discontinued.

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Friday, October 6, 2006 8:04 AM

October 06, 1846

George Westinghouse is born.

October 06, 1866

The four Reno brothers, hold up their first train, taking $13,000.00 from the safes on a moving Ohio & Mississippi train. This was the first robbery of a train in motion.

October 06, 1935

Market Street Railway starts using trackless trolley coaches.

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Posted by StillGrande on Friday, October 6, 2006 1:25 PM
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September 27, 1864

Jesse James gang surprise attack train: 150 killed.

The Centralia Massacre was an ambush by bushwhackers under Bloody Bill Anderson during the American Civil War in which 22 Union soldiers were executed at the Centralia, Missouri train station on September 27, 1864.

Jesse James was among the bushwhackers.

In the ensuing Battle of Centralia when federals attempted to capture Anderson another 123 federals were killed.

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:50 AM

October 07, 1826

The first American railroad is completed in Quincy, Massachusetts. Horse draw wagons carrying granite were pulled from a quarry along a 3-mile track for the Bunker Hill Monument.

October 07, 1834

First American railroad tunnel opens on the Allegheny Portage Railroad, east of Johnstown, Pennsylvania.

October 07, 1948

Passengers aboard the Baltimore & Ohio's Marylander between Washington and New York saw the first practical demonstration of television reception aboard a moving train.

October 07, 1949

The Gulf, Mobile & Ohio becomes one of the first major railroads to completely dieselize after it's last steam operation.

October 07, 1960

General Manager N.S. Westergard assumes additional post of Vice-President (SP&S Ry.)

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