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[Anonymous]

I am very glad you all got along. Thank you very much.[:)][^][^]
I started this thread, after all.[:)]

[edblysard]

Hi Bat21,
Our office is right next door to where you see the locomotive parked, the two story brick office building is ours.
Remotes, inside industries, are ok, after all, switching and pulling hot poured steel inside a mill is not the best place for humans to be!
But, for the most part, on our property, remotes wouldnt work, we have way too many public crossings.

The loco you see is for jobs 170, 270 and 370, the jobs that works manchester yard and the industries around the bridge.

Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Bat21,
Our office is right next door to where you see the locomotive parked, the two story brick office building is ours.
Remotes, inside industries, are ok, after all, switching and pulling hot poured steel inside a mill is not the best place for humans to be!
But, for the most part, on our property, remotes wouldnt work, we have way too many public crossings.

The loco you see is for jobs 170, 270 and 370, the jobs that works manchester yard and the industries around the bridge.

Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

P.S.......I almost forgot....this also do away with jobs. I think that is an important issue, I think in this case the machine could not replace the human.

Jon

[Anonymous]

P.S.......I almost forgot....this also do away with jobs. I think that is an important issue, I think in this case the machine could not replace the human.

Jon

[Anonymous]

I guess the engineer is on the ground and has a transmitter radio box to control the loco. I have read lots of arguments against it by employee's on "BLE" sites regarding safety. For one thing, no matter the operator's location, he could not see on the oppisite side of the loco ie, if I cannot see you, you cannot see me. Someone could be on the other side and get hurt and and the operator not see them.

[Anonymous]

I guess the engineer is on the ground and has a transmitter radio box to control the loco. I have read lots of arguments against it by employee's on "BLE" sites regarding safety. For one thing, no matter the operator's location, he could not see on the oppisite side of the loco ie, if I cannot see you, you cannot see me. Someone could be on the other side and get hurt and and the operator not see them.

[Anonymous]

ED...Awesome info, I learned alot and have a new found respect for your railroad, and a cool 80 yrs old next year. That should put it up there in the standings. I got it about the difference in the blue units. I think I remember now seeing one of yours, they usually park it at the west end of Manchester, on the west side of the bridge. Hey, I know the union is against it, but what is your opinion about the use of remote control loco's for switching duties in yards?

[Anonymous]

ED...Awesome info, I learned alot and have a new found respect for your railroad, and a cool 80 yrs old next year. That should put it up there in the standings. I got it about the difference in the blue units. I think I remember now seeing one of yours, they usually park it at the west end of Manchester, on the west side of the bridge. Hey, I know the union is against it, but what is your opinion about the use of remote control loco's for switching duties in yards?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bat21

Hello All....."I'm back"...I just wanted to apoligize to each and every one of you for my past undesirable comments. And to you Mr Blysard, I owe a sincere apoligy sir and hope we can shake hands and get on to better and more meaningful subjects.

Well I am glad to see you are back. [:)] I am happy that things will be ok between all involved. [8D] We do have alot of teens in the forums so it is good to be mindful of what we say. [B)] We really don't want to lead them astray. [:(] They are a pretty good bunch and most of them are really "on the ball". [:p]

It is nice to see a good outcome on this one [:D] Thank you and all involved. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bat21

Hello All....."I'm back"...I just wanted to apoligize to each and every one of you for my past undesirable comments. And to you Mr Blysard, I owe a sincere apoligy sir and hope we can shake hands and get on to better and more meaningful subjects.

Well I am glad to see you are back. [:)] I am happy that things will be ok between all involved. [8D] We do have alot of teens in the forums so it is good to be mindful of what we say. [B)] We really don't want to lead them astray. [:(] They are a pretty good bunch and most of them are really "on the ball". [:p]

It is nice to see a good outcome on this one [:D] Thank you and all involved. [:)]

[edblysard]

Ready to shake and call it even?
Ok by me.
No, the blue one you see up there are CEFX lease units to the UP.
The units numbered in the 2000 series are 2000 hp, the1500 series are 1500 hp.
They are the "new" geeps, but in reality, they are MK1500 and MK2000Ds.
Built under contract by Boise Locomotive, (Morrison Knudson, then Motive Power Inc, now Boise Locomotive) then ones you see have EMD Diesels.
Ours are a dark blue, and you might see one of them in Englewood when we go there to pull a transfer cut.
Thats as far north as we go.
The MK1500Ds we use have Cat diesels, and you will only see them on PTRA property.
We were the first road to order the MK1500D, in 1996.
Along with HBT, we ordered 35 units, numbers 9601 through 9624 went to us, the other 10 to HBT, which was absorbed by its parent roads a few years ago. All 35 units are dark blue, with a scotch light silver chevron on the nose.
The MK1500s the HB&T had went to BNSF, they use them as transfer locomotives, so you may see one of them running around anywhere, they are numbered 9625 through 9635.

The light blue units you see, with the white stripe on the side, and reporting mark of CEFX, are on a long term lease to UP.
But, our diesel shop has the repair contract, so we get a lot of them in here also.

A quick bit of history for you.
The PTRA was founded in 1924, as a netural switching association, back then we had some thing like 18 or 19 railroads that serviced houston and the ship channel industries.
Now we(the PTRA) are down to 3, the BNSF, UP and the Tex Mex.
We have over 450 miles of tracks, into and around both side of the ship channel.
Over 90 miles of running rail,(our version of a main line), three major yards, North Yard, 62 tracks, Manchester yard, 24 tracks,(thats the yard under the ship channel bridge) and Pasadena Yard, 15 tracks, along with three small yards.
We service the entire ship channel complex, on both sides out to Barbors cut.
In North Yard, we average 10 trains out to UP and BNSF per shift, 3 shifts a day.
We switch on average 2500 cars per day.
Not to shabby for a "little" railroad.
And the invite still stands, sorta of.
If you want, come by and I will show you around.
Sat through weds, 8 am to 3pm.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Ready to shake and call it even?
Ok by me.
No, the blue one you see up there are CEFX lease units to the UP.
The units numbered in the 2000 series are 2000 hp, the1500 series are 1500 hp.
They are the "new" geeps, but in reality, they are MK1500 and MK2000Ds.
Built under contract by Boise Locomotive, (Morrison Knudson, then Motive Power Inc, now Boise Locomotive) then ones you see have EMD Diesels.
Ours are a dark blue, and you might see one of them in Englewood when we go there to pull a transfer cut.
Thats as far north as we go.
The MK1500Ds we use have Cat diesels, and you will only see them on PTRA property.
We were the first road to order the MK1500D, in 1996.
Along with HBT, we ordered 35 units, numbers 9601 through 9624 went to us, the other 10 to HBT, which was absorbed by its parent roads a few years ago. All 35 units are dark blue, with a scotch light silver chevron on the nose.
The MK1500s the HB&T had went to BNSF, they use them as transfer locomotives, so you may see one of them running around anywhere, they are numbered 9625 through 9635.

The light blue units you see, with the white stripe on the side, and reporting mark of CEFX, are on a long term lease to UP.
But, our diesel shop has the repair contract, so we get a lot of them in here also.

A quick bit of history for you.
The PTRA was founded in 1924, as a netural switching association, back then we had some thing like 18 or 19 railroads that serviced houston and the ship channel industries.
Now we(the PTRA) are down to 3, the BNSF, UP and the Tex Mex.
We have over 450 miles of tracks, into and around both side of the ship channel.
Over 90 miles of running rail,(our version of a main line), three major yards, North Yard, 62 tracks, Manchester yard, 24 tracks,(thats the yard under the ship channel bridge) and Pasadena Yard, 15 tracks, along with three small yards.
We service the entire ship channel complex, on both sides out to Barbors cut.
In North Yard, we average 10 trains out to UP and BNSF per shift, 3 shifts a day.
We switch on average 2500 cars per day.
Not to shabby for a "little" railroad.
And the invite still stands, sorta of.
If you want, come by and I will show you around.
Sat through weds, 8 am to 3pm.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

ED....By the way....your loco's must be the ones blue ones with the elevated cabs...are they GP15D'S or 20D'S ? .....also, I was in the greenspoint area working last week near Hardy tollway and Beltway 8 (U.P. mainline) and I saw one of your loco's pulling cars south. Do you guys work that far north or was that loco on loan (horsepower hours) etc.?

[Anonymous]

ED....By the way....your loco's must be the ones blue ones with the elevated cabs...are they GP15D'S or 20D'S ? .....also, I was in the greenspoint area working last week near Hardy tollway and Beltway 8 (U.P. mainline) and I saw one of your loco's pulling cars south. Do you guys work that far north or was that loco on loan (horsepower hours) etc.?

[Anonymous]

Hello All....."I'm back"...I just wanted to apoligize to each and every one of you for my past undesirable comments. And to you Mr Blysard, I owe a sincere apoligy sir and hope we can shake hands and get on to better and more meaningful subjects.

[Anonymous]

Hello All....."I'm back"...I just wanted to apoligize to each and every one of you for my past undesirable comments. And to you Mr Blysard, I owe a sincere apoligy sir and hope we can shake hands and get on to better and more meaningful subjects.

[Anonymous]

Who would have ever thought that a loco that hasn't ran in years would generate so much forum traffic now. [:D]

[Anonymous]

Who would have ever thought that a loco that hasn't ran in years would generate so much forum traffic now. [:D]

[edblysard]

Hi Blue,
When we see them in a trailing unit, and its a bum, or a realitive of Mr Cellphone, we leave them be, call the gumshoes, and make arangements for them to meet us at a certain crossing, and we stop the train where they are waiting, guys on each side of the locomotives.
Havent had one fight yet, they go pretty quitely.
If its a kid, joyriding, we usually go get them, bring them into the cab, chew their butt up and down for a while.
The we put then off at the next crossing with warnings that next time we call the cops.
Havent had a repeater.
In the yard, if we see them in a car, we keep on switching till we get down to that car, then drag it up in front of the tower, where we have the gumshoes waiting.
Because we are a switching road, we really dont have main line per se, but we get our share of these dummies.
We did have a pair of real hobos get on a leading unit that was dragging a switch cut out, demanding to know where "this train is going"
They picked the wrong train, our engineer then was a ex Louisiana State fullback, and, after they ignored his request to get off the locomotive, he really and truly threw them off, while it was running about ten mph.
Just picked them up and chunked them over the railing.
Along with you, I would like to hear how wasbash would deal with them on a long distance run, out in the middle of the boonies!
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Blue,
When we see them in a trailing unit, and its a bum, or a realitive of Mr Cellphone, we leave them be, call the gumshoes, and make arangements for them to meet us at a certain crossing, and we stop the train where they are waiting, guys on each side of the locomotives.
Havent had one fight yet, they go pretty quitely.
If its a kid, joyriding, we usually go get them, bring them into the cab, chew their butt up and down for a while.
The we put then off at the next crossing with warnings that next time we call the cops.
Havent had a repeater.
In the yard, if we see them in a car, we keep on switching till we get down to that car, then drag it up in front of the tower, where we have the gumshoes waiting.
Because we are a switching road, we really dont have main line per se, but we get our share of these dummies.
We did have a pair of real hobos get on a leading unit that was dragging a switch cut out, demanding to know where "this train is going"
They picked the wrong train, our engineer then was a ex Louisiana State fullback, and, after they ignored his request to get off the locomotive, he really and truly threw them off, while it was running about ten mph.
Just picked them up and chunked them over the railing.
Along with you, I would like to hear how wasbash would deal with them on a long distance run, out in the middle of the boonies!
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[sooblue]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

MISSOURI LIVES!

OHHHH!
Jen, I was thinkin the same thing[:D][:D]
Lock out one Missouri and get another. It's just life.[:D]
Ed,
I hope Bat21 doesn't show up. You wrote like if he would have been standing in front of you he would have been in a choke hold [:D][:D]
If someone was aboard your train how would you handle it?
In a yard it wouldn't be that big a deal to say get off ! but out on the main line in the middle of no where how would it be handled?[:(]
Sooblue

[sooblue]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

MISSOURI LIVES!

OHHHH!
Jen, I was thinkin the same thing[:D][:D]
Lock out one Missouri and get another. It's just life.[:D]
Ed,
I hope Bat21 doesn't show up. You wrote like if he would have been standing in front of you he would have been in a choke hold [:D][:D]
If someone was aboard your train how would you handle it?
In a yard it wouldn't be that big a deal to say get off ! but out on the main line in the middle of no where how would it be handled?[:(]
Sooblue

[Mookie]

MISSOURI LIVES!

[Mookie]

MISSOURI LIVES!

[edblysard]

Hi Bat21,
Sorry, but Gene Hackman did a much better job with that tag.

And sorry my spelling dissapointed you.
Please note, it is "throw me off your train", not "through me off".
I would suggest your also check your spelling plus grammer, and you should try to write for context and content, not just for self amusement and self gratification.

But your wrong, not only am I proud of where I work, but proud of the work I do.
Without us, most of the industries along the Houston Ship Channel wouldnt have any way to ship their product by rail.

Although your were correct when you said you wernt very interesting.
That much of your posting sounds very true!

And as for size, well, I really could car less how big your behind is, or you gut, both must be massive compared to your brain.

Am I am neither impressed with your stories of tresspassing, or your story of riding in the cab..big deal, I ride in one, and on one, every day.

Wonder if your fat fanny could hang on the side of a covered hopper for a mile or two?
Doubt it, the wind drag from your oversized self important narcissistic ego would blow you off within a few hundred feet.

That is, if you had the stamina or courage to get on then hold on in the first place.

Although, you are full of enough hot air to be a trainmaster, all bulls*it and no brains.

Botton line, if you dont work there, you are a criminal if you trespass by train hopping.

Now, if you want to see how trains are really put together, and have the nuggies to see if big buck you can outwork a old man like me, come on down, and I will put you to work flat switching cars for eight hours.

If you live through the first two hours, I will even buy lunch.

We are at 8900 Clinton Drive, directly across from Gate 8, Port of Houston.

Just show up under the control tower at 7 am.
We would be real happy to see if you can back up your macho nonsense with real work, you know, the kind grown up men do.

By the way, what railroad do you work for?

And I noticed it took you from 8:02 to 9:15 to come up with six paragraphs of crap, do you always think that slow?
Or did it take you that long to look up most of the words with more than two syllables?

Oh, and just to be real clear, if you dont come back to this forum, well, good riddance to bad rubbish!
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Bat21,
Sorry, but Gene Hackman did a much better job with that tag.

And sorry my spelling dissapointed you.
Please note, it is "throw me off your train", not "through me off".
I would suggest your also check your spelling plus grammer, and you should try to write for context and content, not just for self amusement and self gratification.

But your wrong, not only am I proud of where I work, but proud of the work I do.
Without us, most of the industries along the Houston Ship Channel wouldnt have any way to ship their product by rail.

Although your were correct when you said you wernt very interesting.
That much of your posting sounds very true!

And as for size, well, I really could car less how big your behind is, or you gut, both must be massive compared to your brain.

Am I am neither impressed with your stories of tresspassing, or your story of riding in the cab..big deal, I ride in one, and on one, every day.

Wonder if your fat fanny could hang on the side of a covered hopper for a mile or two?
Doubt it, the wind drag from your oversized self important narcissistic ego would blow you off within a few hundred feet.

That is, if you had the stamina or courage to get on then hold on in the first place.

Although, you are full of enough hot air to be a trainmaster, all bulls*it and no brains.

Botton line, if you dont work there, you are a criminal if you trespass by train hopping.

Now, if you want to see how trains are really put together, and have the nuggies to see if big buck you can outwork a old man like me, come on down, and I will put you to work flat switching cars for eight hours.

If you live through the first two hours, I will even buy lunch.

We are at 8900 Clinton Drive, directly across from Gate 8, Port of Houston.

Just show up under the control tower at 7 am.
We would be real happy to see if you can back up your macho nonsense with real work, you know, the kind grown up men do.

By the way, what railroad do you work for?

And I noticed it took you from 8:02 to 9:15 to come up with six paragraphs of crap, do you always think that slow?
Or did it take you that long to look up most of the words with more than two syllables?

Oh, and just to be real clear, if you dont come back to this forum, well, good riddance to bad rubbish!
Ed

[Anonymous]

I really, really hope you get caught someday. Or, I hope even more, before you get caught, you realize what you are doing and stop that. Its up to you.

[Anonymous]

I really, really hope you get caught someday. Or, I hope even more, before you get caught, you realize what you are doing and stop that. Its up to you.

[edblysard]

Lets see,
Tresspassing, interference with interstate commerce, not to mention placing yourself and the crew in danger, imagine what would have happened if you had played with any control surface, of better yet, the trainman who toked one up had found you before you woke up!
Normaly, what we do with the guys we find "bumming" a ride aint all that fun, from their side of it, anyway.
Did it ever occure to you that by climbing into the trailing unit, you are, in essence, climbing into their workplace?
Uninvited and unwelcome guest are not often treated very well.
And it is a crime for you to be there.
What do you do for a living now?
Can I just walk through your building, and climb on any equipment I find there?
Can I just waltz on in and plunk my fanny down at your desk?
Maybe play with your computer for a while?
Trust me, you dont want to get caught on any train I am the conductor of.
Its called tresspassing, period.
Not cool. or neat, or a fun thing to teach kids to do.
Its dangerous for you, and for us.
Not something to be proud of.
Ed