UTU Indictment

[Anonymous]

The current UTU President Byron Boyd and past President Charlie Little were indicted today.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/releases/September2003/030915-boyd.htm

[Anonymous]

The current UTU President Byron Boyd and past President Charlie Little were indicted today.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/releases/September2003/030915-boyd.htm

[vsmith]

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[vsmith]

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[Anonymous]

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

[Anonymous]

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

[jrw249]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ralphm

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

Ya, I thought the same thing>

[jrw249]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ralphm

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

Ya, I thought the same thing>

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ralphm

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

Not if they're as smart as they should be. Don't forget, the BLE also has a Designated Legal Counsel program with a LOT of the same attorneys in it. It won't be much of a jump for the Feds to go after them next. Its a cinch that if the lawyers were paying the UTU then they were paying others too. Dunno of BMWE has a DLC program, but I wouldn't be surprised. I would think the BLE would keep a very low profile on this issue.

LC

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ralphm

The BLE will be dancing at this news.

Not if they're as smart as they should be. Don't forget, the BLE also has a Designated Legal Counsel program with a LOT of the same attorneys in it. It won't be much of a jump for the Feds to go after them next. Its a cinch that if the lawyers were paying the UTU then they were paying others too. Dunno of BMWE has a DLC program, but I wouldn't be surprised. I would think the BLE would keep a very low profile on this issue.

LC

[edblysard]

Funny, I think I mentioned once that the UTU had stoped being a union a long time ago, and had become a insurance underwriter instead.
Seems Boyd, Little and company got caught with their hand in the cookie jar!

Lets see, they sell life and job insurance to the union members,(dont expect to much help from them in a railroad disipline investigation if you dont have UTU job insurance) and then accept and solicit bribes from the legal counsel they get to appoint to handle job releated injury suits.

Yup, sounds more like a insurance company than a union to me!

So the leaders at the BLE can do one of two things.

Make a big fuss about how honest they are,(dumb) or shut up and sit real still and quite (smart, like LC said).
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Funny, I think I mentioned once that the UTU had stoped being a union a long time ago, and had become a insurance underwriter instead.
Seems Boyd, Little and company got caught with their hand in the cookie jar!

Lets see, they sell life and job insurance to the union members,(dont expect to much help from them in a railroad disipline investigation if you dont have UTU job insurance) and then accept and solicit bribes from the legal counsel they get to appoint to handle job releated injury suits.

Yup, sounds more like a insurance company than a union to me!

So the leaders at the BLE can do one of two things.

Make a big fuss about how honest they are,(dumb) or shut up and sit real still and quite (smart, like LC said).
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

Limitedclear, there is nothing wrong with having a Designated Legal Counsel program, properly run it is just a way to recommend legal counsel to the membership. There is a problem with soliciting and accepting money from the lawyers.

This legal problem isn't something that just popped up for the UTU. It entered the court system when large number of UTU DLC were indicted in 1998. It spilled over to the UTU when the UTU Texas Legislative Chairman Neil Francis Babineaux was indicted on 6/5/02. Babineaux was also the campaign manager for Little and Boyd. Babineaux has changed his plea to guilty and has been sentenced.

If the BLE hasn't been mentioned in the last five years, I would suspect they don't have a problem.

[Anonymous]

Limitedclear, there is nothing wrong with having a Designated Legal Counsel program, properly run it is just a way to recommend legal counsel to the membership. There is a problem with soliciting and accepting money from the lawyers.

This legal problem isn't something that just popped up for the UTU. It entered the court system when large number of UTU DLC were indicted in 1998. It spilled over to the UTU when the UTU Texas Legislative Chairman Neil Francis Babineaux was indicted on 6/5/02. Babineaux was also the campaign manager for Little and Boyd. Babineaux has changed his plea to guilty and has been sentenced.

If the BLE hasn't been mentioned in the last five years, I would suspect they don't have a problem.

[Anonymous]

Sept. 15, 2003, 11:43PM

Rail union officials plead not guilty

Suspects accused of bribery plot
By HARVEY RICE
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

The current and former presidents of the nation's largest railroad operating union pleaded not guilty Monday in a federal court in Houston to accusations that they sought bribes from attorneys in return for access to union workers injured on the job.

Byron Alfred Boyd Jr., 57, of Seattle, Wash., international president of the United Transportation Union, and retired President Charles Leonard Little, 69, of Leander, were released on $100,000 bond after pleading before federal Magistrate Judge Marcia Crone.

John Russell Rookard, 57, of Olalla, Wash., Boyd's assistant, also was released after pleading not guilty and posting a $100,000 bond. Ralph John Dennis, 51, of Boone, Iowa, former union director of insurance, is scheduled to appear before Crone today at 2 p.m.

The four were indicted last week by a federal grand jury on charges of racketeering conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud and commercial bribery in connection with an alleged scheme to solicit bribes from attorneys who sought special access to union members.

The indictments follow a five-year investigation that began in Houston.

If convicted, they face up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine on each racketeering charge and 10 years and a $250,000 fine for each of mail fraud charge.

Prosecutors also are seeking the seizure of at least $477,100 in cash proceeds from the alleged scheme. If the money has been disposed of, prosecutors intend to seize personal property of equal value, according to the indictment.

"We cannot and will not tolerate union officials who abuse their positions of trust for personal gain," U.S. Attorney Michael Shelby said.

The union, with headquarters in Cleveland, Ohio, has about 125,000 members nationwide in the railroad, bus, mass transit and airline industries.

In a statement issued by the union, Boyd said, "I have every intention to pursue this matter to a final and full conclusion that completely exonerates me."

Boyd's attorney, Robert Sussman, said his client would continue as president while fighting the charges.

David Gerger, attorney for Little, and Cary Feldman, attorney for Rookard, also said their clients would be vindicated.

All three surrendered voluntarily early Monday at the FBI office in Houston.

The indictment alleges that as president, Boyd and Little had the authority to determine the attorneys included on the union's designated legal counsel list, an allegedly coveted designation because it gave attorneys easier access to injured union members in potentially lucrative damage suits.

The 1908 Federal Employers Liability Act allows unlimited damages for railroad workers because their jobs are so hazardous.

Although any lawyer can represent an injured railroad worker, those on the designated legal counsel list were given union membership, which means access to otherwise closed union meetings, and the imprimatur of the union.

The indictment alleges that the four union officials met secretly with attorneys to solicit and receive bribes for inclusion on the designated legal counsel list and for remaining on the list. Boyd and Little also allegedly solicited thousands of dollars in cash for their union presidential campaigns.

Of the 56 designated legal counsels listed on the union's Web site, six are in Texas and five are in the Houston area. Texas has more than any other state except Illinois, which has seven.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Gallagher said that the FBI began the investigation in Houston in 1999, but the designated legal counsel list has changed constantly during the investigation.

He told Crone that all attorneys on the designated legal counsel list were potential witnesses.

[Anonymous]

Sept. 15, 2003, 11:43PM

Rail union officials plead not guilty

Suspects accused of bribery plot
By HARVEY RICE
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

The current and former presidents of the nation's largest railroad operating union pleaded not guilty Monday in a federal court in Houston to accusations that they sought bribes from attorneys in return for access to union workers injured on the job.

Byron Alfred Boyd Jr., 57, of Seattle, Wash., international president of the United Transportation Union, and retired President Charles Leonard Little, 69, of Leander, were released on $100,000 bond after pleading before federal Magistrate Judge Marcia Crone.

John Russell Rookard, 57, of Olalla, Wash., Boyd's assistant, also was released after pleading not guilty and posting a $100,000 bond. Ralph John Dennis, 51, of Boone, Iowa, former union director of insurance, is scheduled to appear before Crone today at 2 p.m.

The four were indicted last week by a federal grand jury on charges of racketeering conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud and commercial bribery in connection with an alleged scheme to solicit bribes from attorneys who sought special access to union members.

The indictments follow a five-year investigation that began in Houston.

If convicted, they face up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine on each racketeering charge and 10 years and a $250,000 fine for each of mail fraud charge.

Prosecutors also are seeking the seizure of at least $477,100 in cash proceeds from the alleged scheme. If the money has been disposed of, prosecutors intend to seize personal property of equal value, according to the indictment.

"We cannot and will not tolerate union officials who abuse their positions of trust for personal gain," U.S. Attorney Michael Shelby said.

The union, with headquarters in Cleveland, Ohio, has about 125,000 members nationwide in the railroad, bus, mass transit and airline industries.

In a statement issued by the union, Boyd said, "I have every intention to pursue this matter to a final and full conclusion that completely exonerates me."

Boyd's attorney, Robert Sussman, said his client would continue as president while fighting the charges.

David Gerger, attorney for Little, and Cary Feldman, attorney for Rookard, also said their clients would be vindicated.

All three surrendered voluntarily early Monday at the FBI office in Houston.

The indictment alleges that as president, Boyd and Little had the authority to determine the attorneys included on the union's designated legal counsel list, an allegedly coveted designation because it gave attorneys easier access to injured union members in potentially lucrative damage suits.

The 1908 Federal Employers Liability Act allows unlimited damages for railroad workers because their jobs are so hazardous.

Although any lawyer can represent an injured railroad worker, those on the designated legal counsel list were given union membership, which means access to otherwise closed union meetings, and the imprimatur of the union.

The indictment alleges that the four union officials met secretly with attorneys to solicit and receive bribes for inclusion on the designated legal counsel list and for remaining on the list. Boyd and Little also allegedly solicited thousands of dollars in cash for their union presidential campaigns.

Of the 56 designated legal counsels listed on the union's Web site, six are in Texas and five are in the Houston area. Texas has more than any other state except Illinois, which has seven.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Gallagher said that the FBI began the investigation in Houston in 1999, but the designated legal counsel list has changed constantly during the investigation.

He told Crone that all attorneys on the designated legal counsel list were potential witnesses.

[Mookie]

Ok - you yanked my chain. I'll be brief!

And Martha Stewart had insider trading information. Enron officials have yet to really be scared of doing time. Former Vice President did little time in plush "prison".
Watergate - who really ever went to prison - anyone besides a few henchmen? Do any of these white collar crimes ever really get punished or do they just all end up spending thousands of dollars and making lawyers very rich?

I am a simple thinker, but here is that out of focus picture again!

Jen

[Mookie]

Ok - you yanked my chain. I'll be brief!

And Martha Stewart had insider trading information. Enron officials have yet to really be scared of doing time. Former Vice President did little time in plush "prison".
Watergate - who really ever went to prison - anyone besides a few henchmen? Do any of these white collar crimes ever really get punished or do they just all end up spending thousands of dollars and making lawyers very rich?

I am a simple thinker, but here is that out of focus picture again!

Jen

[Anonymous]

Mookie, you seem to have forgotten Martha's buddy Sam Waksal Inclone's CEO. He got a seven-year sentence for conspiracy, tax and securities fraud,

[Anonymous]

Mookie, you seem to have forgotten Martha's buddy Sam Waksal Inclone's CEO. He got a seven-year sentence for conspiracy, tax and securities fraud,

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pfrench68

Mookie, you seem to have forgotten Martha's buddy Sam Waksal Inclone's CEO. He got a seven-year sentence for conspiracy, tax and securities fraud,

2 things - where is he serving it - ie - a real prison or a country club and 2nd - bet he will be out in 18 mos.!

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pfrench68

Mookie, you seem to have forgotten Martha's buddy Sam Waksal Inclone's CEO. He got a seven-year sentence for conspiracy, tax and securities fraud,

2 things - where is he serving it - ie - a real prison or a country club and 2nd - bet he will be out in 18 mos.!

[Anonymous]

I am sure that Sam is in a minimum security prison. Out in 18 months? I doubt it, a few years ago the Feds came under attack for unfair sentences based on race, as a result BOP does not lower sentences for good behavior appreciably. He is a link that will allow you to catch up on Enron.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/business/specials/energy/enron/

I can't argue about Watergate because nearly everyone received a Presidential Pardon from Ford.

I think Ken Lay and company are definitely worried that their time will come.

Ex-Treasurer of Enron Ben F. Glisan Jr Pleads Guilty, Gets 5 Years.

Andrew Fastow, changed his plea to guilty on a single count of conspiracy in an appearance before U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt. The judge then sentenced him to five years in prison.

[Anonymous]

I am sure that Sam is in a minimum security prison. Out in 18 months? I doubt it, a few years ago the Feds came under attack for unfair sentences based on race, as a result BOP does not lower sentences for good behavior appreciably. He is a link that will allow you to catch up on Enron.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/business/specials/energy/enron/

I can't argue about Watergate because nearly everyone received a Presidential Pardon from Ford.

I think Ken Lay and company are definitely worried that their time will come.

Ex-Treasurer of Enron Ben F. Glisan Jr Pleads Guilty, Gets 5 Years.

Andrew Fastow, changed his plea to guilty on a single count of conspiracy in an appearance before U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt. The judge then sentenced him to five years in prison.

[edblysard]

And remember, we are talking about union officials here, not politically apointed cabinet members or well connected stock brokers.

Bluntly put, these guys are hustlers in the first degree.

And yes, like the teamesters and the mafia, they make comfortable bedfellows.

From 1985 on, the UTU has been nothing more than a business.

You saw the dollar figures?
Thats the numbers they publish.
In reality, I am quite sure the amount is much larger.
Even if it wasnt, the amount reported is enough, and easily obtainable.

Greed isnt limited to politicans, TV stars or stockbrokers.

And the fact that unions have historicaly been linked to organized crime most likley kept the justice dept very interested in Mr Boyd and Mr Little.

If convicted, they will do the time!

When I hired out, before we even began training, the treasurer for my local union showed up in class, handed us a membership application, and informed us we "had" to buy job insurance "only through UTU" because the carrier wouldnt debit our paycheck to any other job insurance provider.
Along with the membership application was a application for UTU job insurance.

I questioned him about what the union was doing in regards to remote control,(even back then it was a issue) and was told he really didnt know!

Beyond that brief encounted, I have yet to have any conversation with any officer of my local in 7 years, with the exception of being approached once more three years ago, again being told I had to purchase job insurance through the union.
I pointed out that his inital speech to my training class was incorrect, possible illegal, and in fact I had purchased job insurance through another insurance provider years ago, and whom the railroad pays out of my check like clockwork, and you know what?
I havent seen hide nor hair of any union rep since!
Been to 2 investigations in 7 years, and have yet to be contacted by any represenitive of my local.
Went to one union meeting, which lasted over two hours.
After the reading of the minutes, the remainder of the meeting was devoted to how much money the local union had in the bank, how the local's investments were going, how much money the union would have in the bank at the begining of the next month, and how the people present needed to sell or encourage all members to purchase life and job insurance from the UTU.

It sounded like I was sitting in on a board meeting of Farmers insurance, not a local railroad union meeting.
Less than ten minutes of the meeting was devoted to local issues, safety, and issues with our carrier.
Its a business, purely a business.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

And remember, we are talking about union officials here, not politically apointed cabinet members or well connected stock brokers.

Bluntly put, these guys are hustlers in the first degree.

And yes, like the teamesters and the mafia, they make comfortable bedfellows.

From 1985 on, the UTU has been nothing more than a business.

You saw the dollar figures?
Thats the numbers they publish.
In reality, I am quite sure the amount is much larger.
Even if it wasnt, the amount reported is enough, and easily obtainable.

Greed isnt limited to politicans, TV stars or stockbrokers.

And the fact that unions have historicaly been linked to organized crime most likley kept the justice dept very interested in Mr Boyd and Mr Little.

If convicted, they will do the time!

When I hired out, before we even began training, the treasurer for my local union showed up in class, handed us a membership application, and informed us we "had" to buy job insurance "only through UTU" because the carrier wouldnt debit our paycheck to any other job insurance provider.
Along with the membership application was a application for UTU job insurance.

I questioned him about what the union was doing in regards to remote control,(even back then it was a issue) and was told he really didnt know!

Beyond that brief encounted, I have yet to have any conversation with any officer of my local in 7 years, with the exception of being approached once more three years ago, again being told I had to purchase job insurance through the union.
I pointed out that his inital speech to my training class was incorrect, possible illegal, and in fact I had purchased job insurance through another insurance provider years ago, and whom the railroad pays out of my check like clockwork, and you know what?
I havent seen hide nor hair of any union rep since!
Been to 2 investigations in 7 years, and have yet to be contacted by any represenitive of my local.
Went to one union meeting, which lasted over two hours.
After the reading of the minutes, the remainder of the meeting was devoted to how much money the local union had in the bank, how the local's investments were going, how much money the union would have in the bank at the begining of the next month, and how the people present needed to sell or encourage all members to purchase life and job insurance from the UTU.

It sounded like I was sitting in on a board meeting of Farmers insurance, not a local railroad union meeting.
Less than ten minutes of the meeting was devoted to local issues, safety, and issues with our carrier.
Its a business, purely a business.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[mudchicken]

Ed:

As usual, well said. There is a place for a union, but these guys clearly forgot about what that reason was. Have seen FELA cases where a guy got hurt and the union and the lawyer literally left the injured guy with nothing while they pushed their own agenda (and lost)....Hope the new leadership shows a little more concern for those that put them there...

-mc

[mudchicken]

Ed:

As usual, well said. There is a place for a union, but these guys clearly forgot about what that reason was. Have seen FELA cases where a guy got hurt and the union and the lawyer literally left the injured guy with nothing while they pushed their own agenda (and lost)....Hope the new leadership shows a little more concern for those that put them there...

-mc

[Anonymous]

Do you really want to have fair and honest people running your Union?? I would not! I have never been in a Union, but I have negotiated with them. The one's with the criminal element to them, very hard to win against them.
TIM A

[Anonymous]

Do you really want to have fair and honest people running your Union?? I would not! I have never been in a Union, but I have negotiated with them. The one's with the criminal element to them, very hard to win against them.
TIM A