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2 People are Killed by Amtrak Train
Posted by SchemerBob on Friday, August 11, 2006 6:07 PM

Sorry about that dead link. Here's another one that I hope works. This is very, very sad.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9658574/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news
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Posted by Randy Stahl on Friday, August 11, 2006 8:43 PM
You see a train.... move off the tracks.... safe ! Good job ! pretty simple if you ask me.
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Posted by TomDiehl on Friday, August 11, 2006 9:31 PM

 Randy Stahl wrote:
You see a train.... move off the tracks.... safe ! Good job ! pretty simple if you ask me.

 

Simple, yes. But it still happens.

"Common sense isn't very common."

Ben Franklin

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:49 AM
The sickening part is the ambulance chasers (sorry gabe, these folks are) working in the shadows and some of the local media (KOA Radio) turning the news into an Op-Ed piece without labelling it as such. The angst within local BNSF circles was clearly evident.
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by eolafan on Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:08 PM

STUPID DOES AS STUPID IS

Sorry if that sounds insensetive but it really fits when somebody tries to cross the tracks after seeing a train (Amtrak or other, doesn't matter at all) coming down the track in their direction.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:45 PM
According to press reports, this happened when a two year old broke away from her mother and ran in front of a train. The mother was hit trying to save her. This is hardly a case of "stupid is as stupid does" and anyone saying something like that should be thoroughly ashamed of even thinking that. Trying to save one's child is hardly stupid or foolish and can only be described as heroic.

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Posted by eolafan on Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:15 AM

 grampaw pettibone wrote:
According to press reports, this happened when a two year old broke away from her mother and ran in front of a train. The mother was hit trying to save her. This is hardly a case of "stupid is as stupid does" and anyone saying something like that should be thoroughly ashamed of even thinking that. Trying to save one's child is hardly stupid or foolish and can only be described as heroic.

Yes, I would agree with you had I known this, but if you look above you will  see the only information posted here is about people walking in front of an Amtrak train and hte link to the newspaper shown above will not work unless you log in with a password (which I do not have) so I had no way of knowing the information you speak of...all indication on this forum was to the contrary, see above.

I would agree entirely that if the mother was running onto the tracks to save her two year old child she exhibited natural paternal instinct.  My apologies if my comments offended you but I still think very many people who walk accross the tracks in front of trains (and there are MANY of them) are just plain stupid, but not (according to you) this person.

One can only comment on a story based on the information available at the time of comment.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:27 PM

Sorry Jim. I was addressing thr thread, not you in particular. I couldn't get into the link either, but got my information from CNN and Fox News, both of whom reported it. The mother was 22 years old and was walking with her 2 year old when the child broke free and started over the tracks. The mother tried to push her out of the way but both were hit and killed. You will get no arguement from me about people and drivers trying to beat the train and getting hit, but this case is totally different and all the more tragic. The thread was painting a totally different picture and I had to say something. I apoligise for sounding like I as singling you out.

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Posted by chicagorails on Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:53 PM

when i lived in mendota ill 2 16 year old girls pushed a 15 yr old boy in front of a speeding amtrak in earlville at 70 mph the boy did not have a chance. that was freaking freaky!!

 seen some parents leash their kids so they dont dart in traffic in chicago,if not holding hands.

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Posted by eolafan on Sunday, August 13, 2006 5:18 PM
 chicagorails wrote:

when i lived in mendota ill 2 16 year old girls pushed a 15 yr old boy in front of a speeding amtrak in earlville at 70 mph the boy did not have a chance. that was freaking freaky!!

 seen some parents leash their kids so they dont dart in traffic in chicago,if not holding hands.

My mother has often told me stories about my being a very energetic kid when I was a toddler growing up in New York City in the 1950's and how she would use a sort of harness on me so I would not dart away from her and into traffic when she and I walked the streets of the Bronx and Manhattan back then.  This may sound like a rather cruel thing to do to a young boy of about three, but look, I AM STILL HERE AND KICKING!

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Posted by SchemerBob on Sunday, August 13, 2006 6:11 PM
 chicagorails wrote:

when i lived in mendota ill 2 16 year old girls pushed a 15 yr old boy in front of a speeding amtrak in earlville at 70 mph the boy did not have a chance. that was freaking freaky!!

Don't the trains have to slow down in Earlville to get over the UP diamond? I would expect it's a lower speed than 70. Still, what you described sounds like something very horrible (and sad) to experience.

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Posted by SchemerBob on Sunday, August 13, 2006 6:14 PM

Here we go again!!

Pa. teen struck and killed by Amtrak train

The Associated Press
MOUNT JOY, Pa. - A teenage boy who was wearing headphones while skateboarding died after being struck by a passenger train, an Amtrak spokeswoman said.

Matthew Monroe, 15, apparently did not hear the warning bells or train horn Friday afternoon at a pedestrian crossing in Lancaster County, investigators said.

The engineer was not able to stop the train, which was traveling about 80 mph, Amtrak spokeswoman Karina Romero said. None of the 242 passengers was injured, Romero said.

Mount Joy Borough Manager Terry Kauffman said the crossing was dangerous."Amtrak has temporarily closed it, and this tragedy will lead us to a discussion on making that permanent," Kauffman said.

The train, called the Pennsylvanian, was delayed for about three hours between the Lancaster and Harrisburg stations en route from New York to Pittsburgh.

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Posted by james saunders on Sunday, August 13, 2006 8:15 PM
 SchemerBob wrote:

Here we go again!!

Pa. teen struck and killed by Amtrak train

The Associated Press
MOUNT JOY, Pa. - A teenage boy who was wearing headphones while skateboarding died after being struck by a passenger train, an Amtrak spokeswoman said.

Matthew Monroe, 15, apparently did not hear the warning bells or train horn Friday afternoon at a pedestrian crossing in Lancaster County, investigators said.

The engineer was not able to stop the train, which was traveling about 80 mph, Amtrak spokeswoman Karina Romero said. None of the 242 passengers was injured, Romero said.

Mount Joy Borough Manager Terry Kauffman said the crossing was dangerous."Amtrak has temporarily closed it, and this tragedy will lead us to a discussion on making that permanent," Kauffman said.

The train, called the Pennsylvanian, was delayed for about three hours between the Lancaster and Harrisburg stations en route from New York to Pittsburgh.



It's always the railroads fault!

I don't know about Pa. or U.S laws there, but here in QLD, i'm pretty sure its illegal to ride a skateboard/bicylce etc, with earphones plugged in, as you can't hear anything like for example warning bells, horns, emergency vehicles etc...

they need to release graphic footage to teens and adults alike and beat it into them, that it's NOT a good idea just to waltz across the tracks. we are having the same problem here lately. they politicians latest idea is to grade seperate EVERY crossing in suburban Brisbane...I mean hello! that would cost $$$$$$$$$$, and lots of it!

Our problem isn't just confined to crossings though, here in Australia, our station platforms are high, so there isn't a big step up/down to the train, and yesterdays paper had an article on an incident 4 years ago, when 3 boys were wrestling on a platform, and 2 fell over the edge into the path of an oncoming express train doing 100kmph luckily the train stopped in time, about 1/2 mtr short of them. too close. this happens reguarly, also kids instead of using the flyovers at the station will quite often just jump down onto the tracks and jump up the other side, i've seen a girl do this as two trains were coming from different directions... very close call.

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