solzrules wrote:You mean it is wrong to pass gas? Oh man, this isn't good........
Mookie wrote: Good or bad manners are not Victorian. It is what sets us apart from animals. We allow animals to do in public what people should not. I don't advocate puritanical standards, but I don't like the total freedom standard either. My bet is you don't either.
Good or bad manners are not Victorian. It is what sets us apart from animals. We allow animals to do in public what people should not.
I don't advocate puritanical standards, but I don't like the total freedom standard either. My bet is you don't either.
Mookie wrote:A Gates - what would you say to instead of being PC and lying, you just don't commit at all. I would rather have someone just avoid a question or a situation than out and out lie to me. But by the same token, I am observant enough to know when someone would rather not answer with a "hurtful" truth.
A Gates - what would you say to instead of being PC and lying, you just don't commit at all.
I would rather have someone just avoid a question or a situation than out and out lie to me. But by the same token, I am observant enough to know when someone would rather not answer with a "hurtful" truth.
zugmann wrote:I always thought that good manners include not passing judgment on others.
Agreed. What make this a go-nowhere topic is that things that offend one person or group may be considered funny by other persons/groups in certain situations. The problem is "who decides?" Is it okay to pass judgement, but not flatus?
It's not acceptable in most places to pass gas in church. On the other hand, have you ever sat in an outfield seat on a hot, sweaty night at a Milwaukee Brewers game where everyone is guzzling flagons of beer to wash down chili dogs or bratwurst/sauerkraut sandwiches? Everywhere you look, people are pulling each others' fingers (or as they say in Wisconsin, cutting the cheese).
Sorry, guys, but I was born into a family where passing gas was an evening's entertainment because we didn't have a TV. Plus, that was in the days before air conditioning, so the windows were usually wide open. If the vapors ever became an Olympic sport, my trophy case would be filled with gold medals.
I'll bet that a majority of the people on this forum think what Howard Stern is paid to do (paid very well, might I add?) is obscene, vulgar, objectionable, yadda yadda. But how can one argue the fact that he also has one of the most listened-to radio shows in the country? How about the hypocrites who say *tsk tsk* if someone says a four-letter word, then can go home and eat dinner while watching the TV news show combat footage and injured people in the Middle East?
And what about the risque jokes that sometimes appear in the "joke" threads on these forums? I guess some subjects are acceptable if they appear in a "comedy" context, but in general conversation are taboo. I think people who subscribe to this line of thinking are a bit too phoney for me, that's all. And I've seen/met plenty of them, laughing hard at the "blue" comics' jokes (try counting the F-words) in a Las Vegas comedy club, but giving me a dirty look if I say the word "poop."
So, in closing, who gets to decide? I'd love to hear some answers.
You know what's a little sad about this thread (and I'm as guilty as the next guy)? It is getting twice as many hits as the truly informational, and interesting "Tower Thread."
I kind of feel bad, since I'm the one who kind of instigated this thread thanks to my comments on another thread (which is why I've avoided posting on this one so far). Sigh...if only hindsight were 20/20.
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Every once in a while, something slips here--you should have seen my girls' jaw drop when our canoe headed in toward an unnavigable part of the Pere Marquette (that's the train connection, folks!) River and heard what I said when I realized it.
At work, the tower intercom is not a radio, so the FCC rukes against vulgarity and profanity don't apply. Some of us rein it in, others have more of a problem. One time, we had a guy whose every other word was a profanity. We also had a signal maintainer who got along with nearly nobody (he and I got along extremely well, for some reason). Anyway, when this conductor was going "F***ing this, and "F***ing that", the maintainer got on the speaker and said, "I hate to hear you use such a lovely word so loosely!" Kind of made one think.
Oh, by the way, my exclusive signature is not understood by more than two other people on the Forum--in spite of the common-denominator heading. Trust me--it isn't offensive.
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Mookie wrote: TheAntiGates wrote:Sorry, but the example the way you used it, inspired visions of bloated people in misery, fearing they might offend someone if they attained comfort.And, with so much of our society seeming to be built around Victorian hangups and guilt peddling, wondered what might be next. Good or bad manners are not Victorian. It is what sets us apart from animals. We allow animals to do in public what people should not. It is what gives us the ability to live on this small earth in close quarters. I think society today pushes the envelope a little far in pushing their wants in on another's space. What makes anyone think that anyone else would just love to share the above example or your radio so loud someone can hear it a block away? We have small rooms for the example and ear pods for your radio. Both should be used frequently. I don't advocate puritanical standards, but I don't like the total freedom standard either. My bet is you don't either.
TheAntiGates wrote:Sorry, but the example the way you used it, inspired visions of bloated people in misery, fearing they might offend someone if they attained comfort.And, with so much of our society seeming to be built around Victorian hangups and guilt peddling, wondered what might be next.
I think society today pushes the envelope a little far in pushing their wants in on another's space. What makes anyone think that anyone else would just love to share the above example or your radio so loud someone can hear it a block away? We have small rooms for the example and ear pods for your radio. Both should be used frequently.
Well said, Maam, well said.
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TheAntiGates wrote: Mookie wrote: Don't pass gas in public places. SOOO much easier said than done. I for one would never go out with premeditated intention to foul the environment at the local mall, but there are times where it would be mega uncomfortable to hold it in. (some of that food court food just seems to bring out the worst in a person.) When there is no other choice, I usually hit the escalator,and make as wretched a face as all the people behind me. "up" escalators preferred.
Mookie wrote: Don't pass gas in public places.
Don't pass gas in public places.
SOOO much easier said than done.
I for one would never go out with premeditated intention to foul the environment at the local mall, but there are times where it would be mega uncomfortable to hold it in. (some of that food court food just seems to bring out the worst in a person.)
When there is no other choice, I usually hit the escalator,and make as wretched a face as all the people behind me. "up" escalators preferred.
Mookie wrote:Don't pass gas in public places.
You just knew I would be back on this one.
My position on this is that swearing or alluding to swearing is just not good manners. Remember those? You are/should have been taught not to put your elbows on the table. Don't pass gas in public places. Swearing isn't necessary in any conversation. Do you use your cell phone in church or at a funeral?
I think we have gotten very lax in our public demeanor. We are in a "who cares" mode.
And it actually takes extra effort for most people to type symbols and numbers than just alpha typing.
Poppa_Zit wrote: And let me add to your comment a few cogent thoughts: There's no place like home because idle hands are the devil's workshop. You can't cheat a honest man unless what goes around comes around. Don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today as long as any friend of yours is a friend of mine. A stitch in time saves nine whenever a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If Gosh wanted men to fly, he would have given them wings after you've seen one, you've seen them all. Boys will be boys because a fool and his money are soon parted. Practice makes perfect if the devil made me do it. I'm only human, especially when laughter is the best medicine. Today is the first day of the rest of your life, so easy come, easy go after you live and let live.
And let me add to your comment a few cogent thoughts: There's no place like home because idle hands are the devil's workshop. You can't cheat a honest man unless what goes around comes around. Don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today as long as any friend of yours is a friend of mine. A stitch in time saves nine whenever a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If Gosh wanted men to fly, he would have given them wings after you've seen one, you've seen them all. Boys will be boys because a fool and his money are soon parted. Practice makes perfect if the devil made me do it. I'm only human, especially when laughter is the best medicine. Today is the first day of the rest of your life, so easy come, easy go after you live and let live.
What about "Never try to teach a pig to sing, you'll waste your time, and annoy the pig"
chad thomas wrote:So it looks like the overwhelming verdict is that the 2nd and 3rd quotes are not appropriate. Yet they have not been removed.
Very Smart, Grasshopper!
HERES my cent and a half opinion---- really man that quote one should be removed guy. Why use this to end your posts? Should be really a part of your good side made in a lite mood which does speak good of your character.
However--I been on only about two-three days and without reading the posts this signiture was the first to send negatives to my mind. This as an example how it looked to me as well as others Im definately sure of.
Nobody is perfect here but surely as heck you would want to send a positive character impression to our readers-- Remember first impressions last a lifetime. Sorry to drop a bomb to you but this is my opinion.
morseman wrote: to Poppa you misquoted a Bible passage Money is not the root of all evil It's the love of money that is the root of all evil.
to Poppa
you misquoted a Bible passage
Money is not the root of all evil
It's the love of money that is the root of all evil.
OK. I wasn't quoting the bible.
But on the other hand, who among us doesn't love money?
Which reminds me: Money doesn't buy happiness. But I'd rather have it if I'm gonna be unhappy.
samfp1943 wrote: morseman wrote:vulgarity is the crutch of the conversational cripple. More truth than poetry in that statement.
morseman wrote:vulgarity is the crutch of the conversational cripple.
More truth than poetry in that statement.
TheAntiGates wrote: chad thomas wrote:So it looks like the overwhelming verdict is that the 2nd and 3rd quotes are not appropriate. Yet they have not been removed.Actually, the first one bothers me more than the other two.With the reference to Satan, it's only a matter of time before someone feels the need to balance the reference witha mention of god in theirs, and before long you will have goobers wanting to pray for each other, etc etc, and you know what Bergie said about "no religion".Better just to leave all of that stuff out of the picture. Not even get it started.
The religious references in sigs happened about two years ago, but there was no escalation...
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Right. And "Money is the root of all evil." So if anyone here is feeling guilty about being evil, I'll be happy to ease your pain. Just transfer all of those evil roots into my bank account. Checks accepted, cash preferred.
ironhorseman wrote: How about this one? "The passenger train is like the male teat: neither functional nor attractive." I forget who said that. Someone from the olden days. A robberbaron, I believe. Anyway, have fun trying to find who said it. Right now I'm too far away from my resources and running out of time to look it up.
How about this one?
"The passenger train is like the male teat: neither functional nor attractive."
I forget who said that. Someone from the olden days. A robberbaron, I believe. Anyway, have fun trying to find who said it. Right now I'm too far away from my resources and running out of time to look it up.
I believe that quote was from Jim Hill, the original Empire Builder. So it is really kind of funny to name a passenger train after him.
BTW, I am far from being PC and thought the signature was kind of funny.
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