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SSW expantion - What might have been???

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:09 PM
If the SSW was a subsidiary of the SP, then why didn't the SP invest for exspantion for the Cotton Belt???
To me that dosn't make since. It seems like Southern Pacific didn't want to exspan the line. With Southen Pacific's Lines in Californa, a line to Houston in the gulf and industrise in the mid-west would double any income. To me it doesn't make a bit of since!!!
As for Texas laws, the SSW could move their HQ to Tyler, Texas.
Maybe with more rail and income the SP AND the SSW would still be around today and not in the big mess called Union Pacific!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:09 PM
If the SSW was a subsidiary of the SP, then why didn't the SP invest for exspantion for the Cotton Belt???
To me that dosn't make since. It seems like Southern Pacific didn't want to exspan the line. With Southen Pacific's Lines in Californa, a line to Houston in the gulf and industrise in the mid-west would double any income. To me it doesn't make a bit of since!!!
As for Texas laws, the SSW could move their HQ to Tyler, Texas.
Maybe with more rail and income the SP AND the SSW would still be around today and not in the big mess called Union Pacific!!!

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Posted by kenneo on Thursday, September 4, 2003 3:59 PM
The TP and the TNO were separate from the MP and SP because of Texas law. Any railroad operating in Texas had to have its headquarters in Texas. So, you have the TNO/SP/SSW, TP/MP, FWD/CS/CBQ. The BN was formed prior to the change in Texas law which is why their HQ is in Texas and the UP's is not.
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Posted by kenneo on Thursday, September 4, 2003 3:59 PM
The TP and the TNO were separate from the MP and SP because of Texas law. Any railroad operating in Texas had to have its headquarters in Texas. So, you have the TNO/SP/SSW, TP/MP, FWD/CS/CBQ. The BN was formed prior to the change in Texas law which is why their HQ is in Texas and the UP's is not.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 7:05 PM
From what I have read, the SLSW was considered to be a subsidiary of SP for quite awhile.

I don't think the Cotton Belt had the kind of capital necessary to expand beyond its existing routes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 7:05 PM
From what I have read, the SLSW was considered to be a subsidiary of SP for quite awhile.

I don't think the Cotton Belt had the kind of capital necessary to expand beyond its existing routes.
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Posted by cabforward on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 5:17 PM
you dont give years for when things might have happened.. when might ssw have owned the tp?

in '69, i rode a tp pass. train thru la.. it seemed to me that tp managed the r-o-w, but mp ran the trains.. i never saw rolling stock with 'tp' on it.. employees at pass. stops answered the phone with 'tp rail'..

during the single ride i made to n.o., the 2-3 car run pulled into a siding to allow a freight to pass.. that left a strange impression.. never thought a pass. run would pull over for a freight..

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Posted by cabforward on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 5:17 PM
you dont give years for when things might have happened.. when might ssw have owned the tp?

in '69, i rode a tp pass. train thru la.. it seemed to me that tp managed the r-o-w, but mp ran the trains.. i never saw rolling stock with 'tp' on it.. employees at pass. stops answered the phone with 'tp rail'..

during the single ride i made to n.o., the 2-3 car run pulled into a siding to allow a freight to pass.. that left a strange impression.. never thought a pass. run would pull over for a freight..

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SSW expantion - What might have been???
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 4:47 PM
Today at school, I was in the lunch line when I started thinking were would the Cotton Belt be today if they had expaned. I thought up this crazy idea but could this have ever happen. Here goes. As most SSW fans know the SSW went through Missouri, Arkansas, and Texas. Now heres were it get fictional, the SSW expaned the line from St. Louis to Chicago and on to Indiapolis to the East. In Texas the line was expaned from Tyler to Houston and on to Corpus Christi. The SSW then took over theTexas & New Orleans with track from Austin to New Orleans. Then a line from St. Louis to Kansas City Mo. was built and track was laid from Kansas City thru Oklahoma to Dallas TX..
The the SSW took over the Texas and Pacific and ran trains from Fort worth to El Paso and interchanging with th SP. Are you still with me[?][?][?]
The SSW then saw trackged right over the SP thru New Mexico and Arizona. Then the SSW built track from Texas to Arizona. THIS IS TRUE!!! THE SP DID TAKE OVER THE SSW..........but with the SSW expaning, the SP would of been a short line compared to the new SSW thus the SSW took over the SP.[:)][:)][:)]
Even though this NEVER HAPPENED[:(][:(][:(], was there any hope of expantion for the Cotton Belt[?][?][?]

Every day I wished this would of happened.
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SSW expantion - What might have been???
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 4:47 PM
Today at school, I was in the lunch line when I started thinking were would the Cotton Belt be today if they had expaned. I thought up this crazy idea but could this have ever happen. Here goes. As most SSW fans know the SSW went through Missouri, Arkansas, and Texas. Now heres were it get fictional, the SSW expaned the line from St. Louis to Chicago and on to Indiapolis to the East. In Texas the line was expaned from Tyler to Houston and on to Corpus Christi. The SSW then took over theTexas & New Orleans with track from Austin to New Orleans. Then a line from St. Louis to Kansas City Mo. was built and track was laid from Kansas City thru Oklahoma to Dallas TX..
The the SSW took over the Texas and Pacific and ran trains from Fort worth to El Paso and interchanging with th SP. Are you still with me[?][?][?]
The SSW then saw trackged right over the SP thru New Mexico and Arizona. Then the SSW built track from Texas to Arizona. THIS IS TRUE!!! THE SP DID TAKE OVER THE SSW..........but with the SSW expaning, the SP would of been a short line compared to the new SSW thus the SSW took over the SP.[:)][:)][:)]
Even though this NEVER HAPPENED[:(][:(][:(], was there any hope of expantion for the Cotton Belt[?][?][?]

Every day I wished this would of happened.

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