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Dash 8 on switching duty?
Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:57 PM
Heres a stupid question...

The other day as I was cruising around town I saw a big shiny roadunit BNSF Dash8 doing switching duty (!) at the local Brewery in Irwindale. This is a branch line now, all that is left of the old Santa Fe ROW that used to go all the way to LA before the Metro Goldline was built so I know it wasnt just parked. There were two older beat up units with it and they were pushing cars at the brewery siding off the branch line. My question is:

Do engines get "punished" and relegated to switching duty if they are "bad" little engines just like on "Thomas the Tank Engine"? I can see road crews being reassigned for infractions, but engines?

Just how are engines assigned to tasks? Dont switchers have a lower gear ratio than road engines? Wouldnt a big shiny Dash8 be too highy strung for lowely switching duty? or too big for industrial sidings (i can just hear those wheels squeeling)? Is reality as strange as fiction? Will "Thomas the Dash8" ever get back onto the mainline on Sodor, I mean Los Angeles??????

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Dash 8 on switching duty?
Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:57 PM
Heres a stupid question...

The other day as I was cruising around town I saw a big shiny roadunit BNSF Dash8 doing switching duty (!) at the local Brewery in Irwindale. This is a branch line now, all that is left of the old Santa Fe ROW that used to go all the way to LA before the Metro Goldline was built so I know it wasnt just parked. There were two older beat up units with it and they were pushing cars at the brewery siding off the branch line. My question is:

Do engines get "punished" and relegated to switching duty if they are "bad" little engines just like on "Thomas the Tank Engine"? I can see road crews being reassigned for infractions, but engines?

Just how are engines assigned to tasks? Dont switchers have a lower gear ratio than road engines? Wouldnt a big shiny Dash8 be too highy strung for lowely switching duty? or too big for industrial sidings (i can just hear those wheels squeeling)? Is reality as strange as fiction? Will "Thomas the Dash8" ever get back onto the mainline on Sodor, I mean Los Angeles??????

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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:03 PM
the answer is tonnage and need. a dash 8 will do the job but it is slow. engines are by need if that is all that is around that is what you use. there are restrictions on industry tracks but. all it takes is the cheif or superattendant to say use it and all rules are thrown out the window.
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:03 PM
the answer is tonnage and need. a dash 8 will do the job but it is slow. engines are by need if that is all that is around that is what you use. there are restrictions on industry tracks but. all it takes is the cheif or superattendant to say use it and all rules are thrown out the window.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:05 PM
As Henry James and Gordon learned no engine is too big for small jobs.Csx has used a variety of engines when switching here in Defiance.Labor Day 3 years ago they had 7 engines parked in the yard.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:05 PM
As Henry James and Gordon learned no engine is too big for small jobs.Csx has used a variety of engines when switching here in Defiance.Labor Day 3 years ago they had 7 engines parked in the yard.
stay safe
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Posted by David3 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:36 PM
From what I know they need certain locomotives depending on the load that they are swiching out. Last Thursday I saw a BNSF dash 9 doing yard switching!
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Posted by David3 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:36 PM
From what I know they need certain locomotives depending on the load that they are swiching out. Last Thursday I saw a BNSF dash 9 doing yard switching!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:40 PM
We use the "Big Dogs" or "Supertoasters" (GEs) on NS for locals or yard jobs all the time. 6 axles can lug a lot of cars. Problem is those @#$&%^*! electronic brakes make switching tough. Also, it is tougher to kick cars with those big engines as thew computers automatically slow the throttle response.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:40 PM
We use the "Big Dogs" or "Supertoasters" (GEs) on NS for locals or yard jobs all the time. 6 axles can lug a lot of cars. Problem is those @#$&%^*! electronic brakes make switching tough. Also, it is tougher to kick cars with those big engines as thew computers automatically slow the throttle response.

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:19 PM
My how the mighty fleet have fallen[V][V]. Are the new big SD's subject to being "goats", or is it only the GEs?

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:19 PM
My how the mighty fleet have fallen[V][V]. Are the new big SD's subject to being "goats", or is it only the GEs?

Take care[:)]

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:36 PM
Probably was the nearest thing lying around at the San Bernardino yard. The motive power clerks in Ft. Worth just saw it as "another number/ another available locomotive" on their computer screen and reasoned "why Not?"

In the past, have seen UP switching Cheyenne with DD40AX's (roadmaster must have died if he saw that thing attacking yard switches!), so nothing is that unusual.
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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:36 PM
Probably was the nearest thing lying around at the San Bernardino yard. The motive power clerks in Ft. Worth just saw it as "another number/ another available locomotive" on their computer screen and reasoned "why Not?"

In the past, have seen UP switching Cheyenne with DD40AX's (roadmaster must have died if he saw that thing attacking yard switches!), so nothing is that unusual.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:20 PM
Yeah, it's a real treat to hear the appealing sound of flange squeal as those 6 axle units go around some tight curves in smaller yards. Almost as lovely as the sound of nails on a chalkboard!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:20 PM
Yeah, it's a real treat to hear the appealing sound of flange squeal as those 6 axle units go around some tight curves in smaller yards. Almost as lovely as the sound of nails on a chalkboard!
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Posted by kevarc on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:30 PM
We have an old faded Dash9 as yard engine in the BNSF yard in Lafayette, LA
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Posted by kevarc on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:30 PM
We have an old faded Dash9 as yard engine in the BNSF yard in Lafayette, LA
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut484

My how the mighty fleet have fallen[V][V]. Are the new big SD's subject to being "goats", or is it only the GEs?

Take care[:)]

Russell


I see the SD70's only on coal trains thru here. But lots of Dash 9's hauling freight and even just short trains of freight - ie possibly from a couple of elevators.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut484

My how the mighty fleet have fallen[V][V]. Are the new big SD's subject to being "goats", or is it only the GEs?

Take care[:)]

Russell


I see the SD70's only on coal trains thru here. But lots of Dash 9's hauling freight and even just short trains of freight - ie possibly from a couple of elevators.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:02 AM
When they need power to run an extra hump job in Proviso, anything is fair game...foreign power, C44ACs, SD70s, you name it! This is not without its own set of problems, though, as the plows often won't clear the retarders.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:02 AM
When they need power to run an extra hump job in Proviso, anything is fair game...foreign power, C44ACs, SD70s, you name it! This is not without its own set of problems, though, as the plows often won't clear the retarders.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 8:05 PM
My dad works at ADM in Decatur. The NS, will generally switch the plant with at least one GE C44-9W if not two.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 8:05 PM
My dad works at ADM in Decatur. The NS, will generally switch the plant with at least one GE C44-9W if not two.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 10:19 PM
I know on CSX where i work with the srew up in motive power assignments we have we just take what they give us. I have had 2 GP-40's and a GP-38 on road trains. One day I had two AC4400's on our 25mph branch into Canada that con barely hold up a four axle and even seen six packs on switching jobs.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 10:19 PM
I know on CSX where i work with the srew up in motive power assignments we have we just take what they give us. I have had 2 GP-40's and a GP-38 on road trains. One day I had two AC4400's on our 25mph branch into Canada that con barely hold up a four axle and even seen six packs on switching jobs.
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Posted by CP5415 on Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:10 PM
Sure, I've seen CP's SD90MACS & AC4400's switching GM in Oshawa.
Don't see it every day but it does happen.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted by CP5415 on Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:10 PM
Sure, I've seen CP's SD90MACS & AC4400's switching GM in Oshawa.
Don't see it every day but it does happen.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:45 PM
CSX uses heavy six axle power on a reguler basis to marshal loads of coal in the yards at Grafton Wv.In years past it was realy a thrill to stand on the bridge spanning the yards and listen to the howl of an SD45 passing back and forth right underneath of you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:45 PM
CSX uses heavy six axle power on a reguler basis to marshal loads of coal in the yards at Grafton Wv.In years past it was realy a thrill to stand on the bridge spanning the yards and listen to the howl of an SD45 passing back and forth right underneath of you.

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