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Recent 'Fallen Flag' Sightings while Trainwatching

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 13, 2003 7:37 PM
just this past summer in at the wye in Bay City, Michigan's Wenonah Park i saw 6 former GM&O woodchip hoppers being used for sugar beet hauling. they are owned by the saginaw valley railway and looked heavily rusted as if they had not been used in over 20 years. even so the initial GM&O could still be seen
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

an old illinois central alco is back in town.probably going to help the maumee and western haul grain.She was on Csx yesterday morning tied up at their yard(MW) that night.
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I've been put on special assignment by ed to get a detailed report on this engine.I did see a boxcar with the up shield and mp reporting marks by the warehouse this morning.[:)]
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

an old illinois central alco is back in town.probably going to help the maumee and western haul grain.She was on Csx yesterday morning tied up at their yard(MW) that night.
stay safe
Joe

I've been put on special assignment by ed to get a detailed report on this engine.I did see a boxcar with the up shield and mp reporting marks by the warehouse this morning.[:)]
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by mnwestern on Monday, October 13, 2003 2:26 PM
While in Havre, Mont. in mid-July for the Great Northern Railway Historical Society's annual convention, several of us standing on the street overpass above the yard had the pleasure of seeing a GN high-side wood chip car still in Big Sky Blue paint parked in the yard. We got some overheads and later some ground level side view shots. Fun!

I've often seen GN and NP cars (usually gondolas, open hoppers or ballast cars) in my area at the Willmar and St. Cloud, Minn. yards. Milwaukee Road cars often pop up on Soo Line/CP Rail trains on their line to Canada just north of us. Of course, Soo Line itself is a fallen flag and Soo cars are common in the area, especially in the Twin Cities and at the yard in Glenwood, Minn. You can still see a rare Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern car running on the ex-Soo lines, too.

I still see plenty of C&NW cars on UP lines south of us in the Mankato, Minn. area, as well as an occasional Chicago Great Western box car on the Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern in wood chip service from South Dakota. A few years ago, I spotted a M&StL cement covered hopper in the Mason City, Iowa, yard. There is a big cement plant there. That car must have been 35 years old then.
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Posted by mnwestern on Monday, October 13, 2003 2:26 PM
While in Havre, Mont. in mid-July for the Great Northern Railway Historical Society's annual convention, several of us standing on the street overpass above the yard had the pleasure of seeing a GN high-side wood chip car still in Big Sky Blue paint parked in the yard. We got some overheads and later some ground level side view shots. Fun!

I've often seen GN and NP cars (usually gondolas, open hoppers or ballast cars) in my area at the Willmar and St. Cloud, Minn. yards. Milwaukee Road cars often pop up on Soo Line/CP Rail trains on their line to Canada just north of us. Of course, Soo Line itself is a fallen flag and Soo cars are common in the area, especially in the Twin Cities and at the yard in Glenwood, Minn. You can still see a rare Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern car running on the ex-Soo lines, too.

I still see plenty of C&NW cars on UP lines south of us in the Mankato, Minn. area, as well as an occasional Chicago Great Western box car on the Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern in wood chip service from South Dakota. A few years ago, I spotted a M&StL cement covered hopper in the Mason City, Iowa, yard. There is a big cement plant there. That car must have been 35 years old then.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

I've mentioned this before on another topic (can't remember which offhand) but saw Soo Line SD50s (or 60s). Are they fallen flags? The amazing this was these were all white with the red fronts, there were two of them, and they were leading a southward vehicle train over BNSF tracks with no BNSF engines. Now, here in Kansas that's a raratiy! I looked on a map and the closest that railroad ever got was Kansas City, maybe? But not Wichita.



8-10 years ago it was quite common to see Soo Line locmotives on CP trains, but now it's quite rare. I wish I took pictures of them back then! I think most of them have been repainted for CP by now, but this week my dad saw a train with a red and white Soo Line diesel. Soo Line rolling stock (especially center flow hoppers) is still a common sight around here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

I've mentioned this before on another topic (can't remember which offhand) but saw Soo Line SD50s (or 60s). Are they fallen flags? The amazing this was these were all white with the red fronts, there were two of them, and they were leading a southward vehicle train over BNSF tracks with no BNSF engines. Now, here in Kansas that's a raratiy! I looked on a map and the closest that railroad ever got was Kansas City, maybe? But not Wichita.



8-10 years ago it was quite common to see Soo Line locmotives on CP trains, but now it's quite rare. I wish I took pictures of them back then! I think most of them have been repainted for CP by now, but this week my dad saw a train with a red and white Soo Line diesel. Soo Line rolling stock (especially center flow hoppers) is still a common sight around here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 11, 2003 9:58 AM
In the last few days I saw a . . .S P . . . AC 4400 . . . still in SP colors. It was the pushing unit on a UP coal drag of empties.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 11, 2003 9:58 AM
In the last few days I saw a . . .S P . . . AC 4400 . . . still in SP colors. It was the pushing unit on a UP coal drag of empties.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, October 11, 2003 7:02 AM
an old illinois central alco is back in town.probably going to help the maumee and western haul grain.She was on Csx yesterday morning tied up at their yard(MW) that night.
stay safe
Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, October 11, 2003 7:02 AM
an old illinois central alco is back in town.probably going to help the maumee and western haul grain.She was on Csx yesterday morning tied up at their yard(MW) that night.
stay safe
Joe

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Posted by ironhorseman on Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:51 AM
I've mentioned this before on another topic (can't remember which offhand) but saw Soo Line SD50s (or 60s). Are they fallen flags? The amazing this was these were all white with the red fronts, there were two of them, and they were leading a southward vehicle train over BNSF tracks with no BNSF engines. Now, here in Kansas that's a raratiy! I looked on a map and the closest that railroad ever got was Kansas City, maybe? But not Wichita.

Also along the old Katy RR line (now UP) I'll see the occasional Missouri Pacific logo and sometimes, but not as often as the MP, I'll still see an M-K-T logo and even more rare now the Katy logo. Usually these come on hopper cars, sometimes boxcars.

And now and then I'll see an ex-Conrail around here on the BNSF, usually all the lettering painted over, but I actually saw one with all lettering and logos in tact! I noticed when the BN was still the BN they used quite a bit of Conrail colored engines.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:51 AM
I've mentioned this before on another topic (can't remember which offhand) but saw Soo Line SD50s (or 60s). Are they fallen flags? The amazing this was these were all white with the red fronts, there were two of them, and they were leading a southward vehicle train over BNSF tracks with no BNSF engines. Now, here in Kansas that's a raratiy! I looked on a map and the closest that railroad ever got was Kansas City, maybe? But not Wichita.

Also along the old Katy RR line (now UP) I'll see the occasional Missouri Pacific logo and sometimes, but not as often as the MP, I'll still see an M-K-T logo and even more rare now the Katy logo. Usually these come on hopper cars, sometimes boxcars.

And now and then I'll see an ex-Conrail around here on the BNSF, usually all the lettering painted over, but I actually saw one with all lettering and logos in tact! I noticed when the BN was still the BN they used quite a bit of Conrail colored engines.

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Posted by jtbredow on Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:32 AM
I live in the Twin Cities and see quite a variety of "fallen flags", not surprisingly mostly from railroads that used to roam here. Lots of CNW, BN, ATSF, and Soo (plenty of engines still with Soo); less frequent MILW (a few old switchers still roaming CP yards) and MOPAC, SP/SSW; and occassionally NW, Sou, GN, NP, DRGW, Frisco, RI, and Chessie.
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Posted by jtbredow on Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:32 AM
I live in the Twin Cities and see quite a variety of "fallen flags", not surprisingly mostly from railroads that used to roam here. Lots of CNW, BN, ATSF, and Soo (plenty of engines still with Soo); less frequent MILW (a few old switchers still roaming CP yards) and MOPAC, SP/SSW; and occassionally NW, Sou, GN, NP, DRGW, Frisco, RI, and Chessie.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:16 PM
Today and yesterday CSX shoved a cut of cars up our main to interchange, and saw a B&O two bay covered hopper. Still had the capitol and B&O reporting marks. Both of them were going to a cement plant and both had 1968 build dates. Too bad I don't have some sort of small high quality camera I could put in my pocket, cause I see some rare cars from time to time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:16 PM
Today and yesterday CSX shoved a cut of cars up our main to interchange, and saw a B&O two bay covered hopper. Still had the capitol and B&O reporting marks. Both of them were going to a cement plant and both had 1968 build dates. Too bad I don't have some sort of small high quality camera I could put in my pocket, cause I see some rare cars from time to time.
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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:56 PM
Saw an GN boxcar about a month ago on the UP line between Proviso and Rochelle. I did a double take. Have no idea where it even came from.
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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:56 PM
Saw an GN boxcar about a month ago on the UP line between Proviso and Rochelle. I did a double take. Have no idea where it even came from.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, October 2, 2003 5:15 PM
a b&o flag on the pole in deshler ohio
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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, October 2, 2003 5:15 PM
a b&o flag on the pole in deshler ohio
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 2, 2003 4:44 PM
Just 20 minutes ago, I too saw an SCL covered hopper car on a CP frieght.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 2, 2003 4:44 PM
Just 20 minutes ago, I too saw an SCL covered hopper car on a CP frieght.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:14 PM
Today I saw a old SCL covered hopper going through Carbondale, Il where I go to college. Also I have seen a lot of the L. E. F.& C. cars that are in coal duty. In Decatur, where I live, I have seen many NW and Southern Cars, old IC cars pre 1972 and Erie Lackawana hoppers at the CSX yard.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:14 PM
Today I saw a old SCL covered hopper going through Carbondale, Il where I go to college. Also I have seen a lot of the L. E. F.& C. cars that are in coal duty. In Decatur, where I live, I have seen many NW and Southern Cars, old IC cars pre 1972 and Erie Lackawana hoppers at the CSX yard.
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Posted by clinchfieldfan on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:44 AM
I recently saw a C & O coil car parked on a siding in elk Horn city Kentucky. Also there is a Clinchfield bunk car parked on a siding in the Dante yard. Have seen a NYC coal hopper in the Carbo Virginia yard.
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Posted by clinchfieldfan on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:44 AM
I recently saw a C & O coil car parked on a siding in elk Horn city Kentucky. Also there is a Clinchfield bunk car parked on a siding in the Dante yard. Have seen a NYC coal hopper in the Carbo Virginia yard.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 5:40 PM
I don't know why I forgot about this before. On CN here it is rather common to see L.E.F.&C. boxcars and open hopper cars. These cars now have CN reporting marks, but otherwise have all of their original paint. Also you sometimes see T.H.&B. hopper cars on CP and I can recall once seeing a gondola car as well. On CP you see a lot of Soo Line cars, but they're so common that you don't think much about them.

In regards to the Maine Central boxcar seen on a CP frieght. A while back on the news there was a derailment that happened in Quebec (I don't even remember them saying what railroad it was on). When it showed the derailment you could see one yellow boxcar with the pine tree logo on it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 5:40 PM
I don't know why I forgot about this before. On CN here it is rather common to see L.E.F.&C. boxcars and open hopper cars. These cars now have CN reporting marks, but otherwise have all of their original paint. Also you sometimes see T.H.&B. hopper cars on CP and I can recall once seeing a gondola car as well. On CP you see a lot of Soo Line cars, but they're so common that you don't think much about them.

In regards to the Maine Central boxcar seen on a CP frieght. A while back on the news there was a derailment that happened in Quebec (I don't even remember them saying what railroad it was on). When it showed the derailment you could see one yellow boxcar with the pine tree logo on it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 1:41 AM
While in Algiers, LA I spotted a decrepit open-platform observation or business car with "PC" stenciled on the left rear and "New York Central" across the letterboards at the top.

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