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Posted by Bergie on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:39 AM
Oh my...

Have do me a favor and start reading this thread from the top of page 23.

See anything that's to be proud of? Anything that looks as though a grown adult may have written it?

I don't. All I see is a bunch of childish behavior. So, here's my advice:

A) Grow up

B) Stop pounding your chest, this is a railroading forum, not an ultimating fighting forum

C) Try to remember why you joined here; to discuss railroads

D) If you can't walk away from a thread without getting into some useless argument, get help.

As Kenny Rogers sang, turn the other check. If it's good for the Gambler, it'll be good for you to try.

Your kindergarten cop,
Bergie
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:36 AM
Wow David,
No facts, but lots of insults.
Bergie had nothing to do with that...
And what in the world are you dumping on Mookie for?
All the lady did was ask you a question...
Guess your lack of manners, honor, and simple courtesy shine through no matter what.

Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!
Ed


You are truly nothing but human debris. I guess Bergie gives you a pass since you sent some steam engine photos to the mag, but eventually the staff at Kalmbach will figure out having a clinical psychopath as a *contributor* does not reflect well on a national publication.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Sorry, Clark Kent, the BS meter pegged on this one.

"I prefer to come here and not reveal my actual identity as others might construe my own thoughts as speaking on behalf of another person or entity"

You can say it as many times as you like. I'm not the one who needs credibility to support his fallacious arguments...

Oh, and I suppose you feel that great compulsion to have the last word, so feel free, it won't convince me, or anyone else. Your BS meter pegged a long time ago...

Well, then why don't you stick to discussing those fallacious arguments, demonstrating why you think they are so, rather than using strictly ad hominmen attacks? Seems like you don't have much to offer on the very rationale that you say compels you.


I'm actually trying to find out your qualifications to reach the conclusions you trot out as fact. Thus far, you are long on air and short on expertise. Kind of the "junk science" of this forum...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Well, honest people don't need to hide their identities.


Honest people who don't want their words published need to protect themselves and their companies and use good judgement in dealing with third parties, particularly plaintiffs counsel from the west. How is my ol' buddy Gerry Spence these days?? (And no, I don't really know him)

It is professional misconduct under RPC 8.4(c) for an attorney to "engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation."

Publicly representing one's self as an attorney while using a false name is a violation of the rules of professional conduct. An attorney would have known that.


Nice try. I'm not misrepresenting anything. There is nothing dishonest about not providing you with my name. I've already stated my reasons for that. I'm not acting as an attorney here and you know it full well. Also, the mere fact that you are willing to stoop to ethical allegations demonstrates how desperate you are. You have been reduced to pounding on the table...

So, what was your job for the Milwaulkee Road again???



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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:17 AM
see--nothing gets through to these guys!

blah blah blah

mine is bigger than yours

is not

is too

and on and on and on
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Posted by n012944 on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!
Ed


You are truly nothing but human debris. I guess Bergie gives you a pass since you sent some steam engine photos to the mag, but eventually the staff at Kalmbach will figure out having a clinical psychopath as a *contributor* does not reflect well on a national publication.


And I am still waiting for a intelligent comment from Dave. I am still waiting for a good insult from him too, you would think that since it is his only defense he would at least have one good one.


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Posted by n012944 on Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:05 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Yeah - it's Idaho! We here in the straight-up-and-down are ok.

Mook


Well, I see you've capitulated to the fecal orgy along with Ed, Tom, and little Bert. So much for your claims of wanting a non-insulting discussion.


Dave, that nose is getting brown again.[:X][:X][:X][:X][:X][:X] I think you are going to have to walk through a car wa***o get it clean.

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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Well, honest people don't need to hide their identities.


Honest people who don't want their words published need to protect themselves and their companies and use good judgement in dealing with third parties, particularly plaintiffs counsel from the west. How is my ol' buddy Gerry Spence these days?? (And no, I don't really know him)

It is professional misconduct under RPC 8.4(c) for an attorney to "engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation."

Publicly representing one's self as an attorney while using a false name is a violation of the rules of professional conduct. An attorney would have known that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posed by Character
A quick Google of Mr. Sol ... Based upon that and another entry showing ...

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character
And you still haven't come forward with the facts or challenged the ones I found about you. Hmmm. Perhaps I need to fire my investigator....

Your investigator is "Google"? A lawyer that does his research using Google then represents, oh, uh, er, "my investigator"...

By all means, "fire" Google.

The stories don't mesh already, this one fell apart pretty fast. Can't reveal your name because we might think you are someone else. You do legal research using Google, uh, an "investigator"... are you on probation for something?


There is a BIG difference between light factual research on Google and "Legal Research" but perhaps that isn't a term of art you understand out there under the "Big Sky"...

As to my investigator, he is a perfectly capable state licensed P.I., but of course you already knew that...

Just going by what you actually stated, I guess the story is changing... but then again it wasn't under oath, since you have no name and nothing is verifiable. Maybe the witness protection program?


No, no, you're thinking of yourself and Dave again, the Witless protection program is just for you two...



you are too
i am not
yes you are
no i'm not
you are
am not
are too
am not
i'm telling my mom
go ahead
my mom can beat up your mom
no she can't
yes she can
no way
yes way
mommy make him stop calling me names

and so on and on and on it goes
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!
Ed


You are truly nothing but human debris. I guess Bergie gives you a pass since you sent some steam engine photos to the mag, but eventually the staff at Kalmbach will figure out having a clinical psychopath as a *contributor* does not reflect well on a national publication.

talk about your pot calling the kettle black
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Well, honest people don't need to hide their identities.


Honest people who don't want their words published need to protect themselves and their companies and use good judgement in dealing with third parties, particularly plaintiffs counsel from the west. How is my ol' buddy Gerry Spence these days?? (And no, I don't really know him)

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Well, honest people don't need to hide their identities.
Now I am all tingly. What do you want to know?[:X][:I]

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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:56 AM
Well, honest people don't need to hide their identities.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Yeah - it's Idaho! We here in the straight-up-and-down are ok.

Mook


Well, I see you've capitulated to the fecal orgy along with Ed, Tom, and little Bert. So much for your claims of wanting a non-insulting discussion.
Whoa, Whoa my man. We aren't having a discussion, since you don't answer any of my questions.

And I was defending the Dakotas since they are our closest neighbor and Idaho seems to have some trouble with.... well, I am not going into that political hot potato.

I don't see what this has to do with you at all.

I haven't insulted you in any way in print, so you owe me an apology.

Mook!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posed by Character
A quick Google of Mr. Sol ... Based upon that and another entry showing ...

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character
And you still haven't come forward with the facts or challenged the ones I found about you. Hmmm. Perhaps I need to fire my investigator....

Your investigator is "Google"? A lawyer that does his research using Google then represents, oh, uh, er, "my investigator"...

By all means, "fire" Google.

The stories don't mesh already, this one fell apart pretty fast. Can't reveal your name because we might think you are someone else. You do legal research using Google, uh, an "investigator"... are you on probation for something?


There is a BIG difference between light factual research on Google and "Legal Research" but perhaps that isn't a term of art you understand out there under the "Big Sky"...

As to my investigator, he is a perfectly capable state licensed P.I., but of course you already knew that...

Just going by what you actually stated, I guess the story is changing... but then again it wasn't under oath, since you have no name and nothing is verifiable. Maybe the witness protection program?


No, no, you're thinking of yourself and Dave again, the Witless protection program is just for you two...

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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posed by Character
A quick Google of Mr. Sol ... Based upon that and another entry showing ...

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character
And you still haven't come forward with the facts or challenged the ones I found about you. Hmmm. Perhaps I need to fire my investigator....

Your investigator is "Google"? A lawyer that does his research using Google then represents, oh, uh, er, "my investigator"...

By all means, "fire" Google.

The stories don't mesh already, this one fell apart pretty fast. Can't reveal your name because we might think you are someone else. You do legal research using Google, uh, an "investigator"... are you on probation for something?


There is a BIG difference between light factual research on Google and "Legal Research" but perhaps that isn't a term of art you understand out there under the "Big Sky"...

As to my investigator, he is a perfectly capable state licensed P.I., but of course you already knew that...

Just going by what you actually stated, I guess the story is changing... but then again it wasn't under oath, since you have no name and nothing is verifiable. Maybe the witness protection program?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posed by Character
A quick Google of Mr. Sol ... Based upon that and another entry showing ...

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character
And you still haven't come forward with the facts or challenged the ones I found about you. Hmmm. Perhaps I need to fire my investigator....

Your investigator is "Google"? A lawyer that does his research using Google then represents, oh, uh, er, "my investigator"...

By all means, "fire" Google.

The stories don't mesh already, this one fell apart pretty fast. Can't reveal your name because we might think you are someone else. You do legal research using Google, uh, an "investigator"... are you on probation for something?


There is a BIG difference between light factual research on Google and "Legal Research" but perhaps that isn't a term of art you understand out there under the "Big Sky"...

As to my investigator, he is a perfectly capable state licensed P.I., but of course you already knew that...

And no, I'm not on probation, but then, I'm not an ex-judge either...

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!
Ed


You are truly nothing but human debris. I guess Bergie gives you a pass since you sent some steam engine photos to the mag, but eventually the staff at Kalmbach will figure out having a clinical psychopath as a *contributor* does not reflect well on a national publication.
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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!

Ed

Ed, I see that your comments on Trains forums are almost never about trains or railroads, they are almost entirely about people, spontaneously inserting yourself into any discussion you can find, just to attack people. Thread after thread.

True, conversations about railroading here seem to turn nasty quicker than they ought to, but you're not even in on the conversations. You just show up to insert the insults. Thread after thread.
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:14 AM
And the sidekick makes his timed appearance, right on cue!

Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Yeah - it's Idaho! We here in the straight-up-and-down are ok.

Mook


Well, I see you've capitulated to the fecal orgy along with Ed, Tom, and little Bert. So much for your claims of wanting a non-insulting discussion.
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:00 AM
I think it’s that panhandle thing...
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Yeah - it's Idaho! We here in the straight-up-and-down are ok.

Mook

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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:54 AM
QUOTE: Originally posed by Character
A quick Google of Mr. Sol ... Based upon that and another entry showing ...

QUOTE: Originally posted by Character
And you still haven't come forward with the facts or challenged the ones I found about you. Hmmm. Perhaps I need to fire my investigator....

Your investigator is "Google"? A lawyer that does his research using Google then represents, oh, uh, er, "my investigator"...

By all means, "fire" Google.

The stories don't mesh already, this one fell apart pretty fast. Can't reveal your name because we might think you are someone else. You do legal research using Google, uh, an "investigator"... are you on probation for something?
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Posted by MichaelSol on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Character

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Sorry, Clark Kent, the BS meter pegged on this one.

"I prefer to come here and not reveal my actual identity as others might construe my own thoughts as speaking on behalf of another person or entity"

You can say it as many times as you like. I'm not the one who needs credibility to support his fallacious arguments...

Oh, and I suppose you feel that great compulsion to have the last word, so feel free, it won't convince me, or anyone else. Your BS meter pegged a long time ago...

Well, then why don't you stick to discussing those fallacious arguments, demonstrating why you think they are so, rather than using strictly ad hominmen attacks? Seems like you don't have much to offer on the very rationale that you say compels you.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:16 AM
Yeah - it's Idaho! We here in the straight-up-and-down are ok.

Mook

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:09 AM
I see you got it right...South Dakota...

Maybe it is Idaho thats the problem....
Tater heads?

Ed[:D]

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Your claiming to be a former judge?
Oh man, and I though Montana was all screwed up because it was next door the Dakotas....
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

You're the guy that won't sign his name. Got you beat by 10 years on law practice though, fours years as a judge, and Circuit Court admission -- I see you haven't gotten that far.

"I prefer to come here and not reveal my actual identity as others might construe my own thoughts as speaking on behalf of another person or entity"

????!!!!????

Uh-huh.


Hey now! I don't think we did anything wrong here[(-D]

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:14 AM
Your claiming to be a former judge?
Oh man, and I though Montana was all screwed up because it was next door the Dakotas....
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

You're the guy that won't sign his name. Got you beat by 10 years on law practice though, fours years as a judge, and Circuit Court admission -- I see you haven't gotten that far.

"I prefer to come here and not reveal my actual identity as others might construe my own thoughts as speaking on behalf of another person or entity"

????!!!!????

Uh-huh.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

Sorry, Clark Kent, the BS meter pegged on this one.

"I prefer to come here and not reveal my actual identity as others might construe my own thoughts as speaking on behalf of another person or entity"




You can say it as many times as you like. I'm not the one who needs credibility to support his fallacious arguments...

Oh, and I suppose you feel that great compulsion to have the last word, so feel free, it won't convince me, or anyone else. Your BS meter pegged a long time ago...

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