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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:44 PM
I think Nora should win the award for creating the MOST looked at topic in the history of the TRAINS website.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:44 PM
I think Nora should win the award for creating the MOST looked at topic in the history of the TRAINS website.
21 PAGES!!
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5,000 plus views.

5000 is more then the amount of people that live in my town.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:52 AM
I'm not an electrical engineer but from my reading it seems that one of the big advantages of AC traction is that AC motors are almost indestructible and are not limited by short-time ratings. This may be the reason that they tend to be used for hauling mineral freight (coal, ore, etc.) although CSX and CP use them for general service.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:52 AM
I'm not an electrical engineer but from my reading it seems that one of the big advantages of AC traction is that AC motors are almost indestructible and are not limited by short-time ratings. This may be the reason that they tend to be used for hauling mineral freight (coal, ore, etc.) although CSX and CP use them for general service.
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Posted by Willy2 on Friday, November 14, 2003 4:01 PM
Here is a really stupid question![:p][:D]

What is the difference between an SD70M and an SD75M. I have always wondered what the difference is because they both look the same. Or close to the same anyway.

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Posted by Willy2 on Friday, November 14, 2003 4:01 PM
Here is a really stupid question![:p][:D]

What is the difference between an SD70M and an SD75M. I have always wondered what the difference is because they both look the same. Or close to the same anyway.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:47 AM
The difference is about 300 HP. Internal components are similar although I would think that the engine may have a higher maximum RPM due to the higher HP rating.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:47 AM
The difference is about 300 HP. Internal components are similar although I would think that the engine may have a higher maximum RPM due to the higher HP rating.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:01 PM
A question about engine headlights . . .

Everyone knows how bright these headlights are. [8D] We know there is a bright and a dim setting and of course an off setting. My question is this. During periods of fog do they dim the lights on the engine like is done on an auto. Or are the lights designed to penetrate the fog? We just had alot of fog the last few days and it made me think about this.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:01 PM
A question about engine headlights . . .

Everyone knows how bright these headlights are. [8D] We know there is a bright and a dim setting and of course an off setting. My question is this. During periods of fog do they dim the lights on the engine like is done on an auto. Or are the lights designed to penetrate the fog? We just had alot of fog the last few days and it made me think about this.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:10 PM
OK, I just walked the dog and while outside I thought about this. [:0] Using the same question as above let's add rain, sleet, and snow. Oh how about smoke? I have seen cars stopped on the hiways by the police because of smoke. Would an engine/train be allowed to go through an area of dense smoke?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:10 PM
OK, I just walked the dog and while outside I thought about this. [:0] Using the same question as above let's add rain, sleet, and snow. Oh how about smoke? I have seen cars stopped on the hiways by the police because of smoke. Would an engine/train be allowed to go through an area of dense smoke?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:55 AM
Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:55 AM
Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:25 AM
Yes. We lived in Maine until a year ago. The branch that ran through our backyard own by MCL or MDOT...it seemed to be always in limbo had a little circus of 8-10 speeders that would gaggle up and down from wherever they were working. Couple of Hi-rails but mostly speeders with a trailer/car of stuff behind it.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:25 AM
Yes. We lived in Maine until a year ago. The branch that ran through our backyard own by MCL or MDOT...it seemed to be always in limbo had a little circus of 8-10 speeders that would gaggle up and down from wherever they were working. Couple of Hi-rails but mostly speeders with a trailer/car of stuff behind it.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:39 AM
AC traction allows greater wheel slip control. The engine can adjust its power to each axle in milliseconds vs. seconds with DC. That allows an AC locomotive to be loaded down to the point where the wheels are just slipping. An AC set will pull more up a hill than a DC set will with the same horespower. For example 3 C44AC's will pull more up a hill than 3 C44-9's even though both have virtually the same diesel engine in them and weigh roughly the same.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:39 AM
AC traction allows greater wheel slip control. The engine can adjust its power to each axle in milliseconds vs. seconds with DC. That allows an AC locomotive to be loaded down to the point where the wheels are just slipping. An AC set will pull more up a hill than a DC set will with the same horespower. For example 3 C44AC's will pull more up a hill than 3 C44-9's even though both have virtually the same diesel engine in them and weigh roughly the same.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

Moo


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It might be. I didn't realize how many companies made speeders until about a month ago. I will find the website and list it here. But there were alot of companies that one time made speeders. Cushman might have been one, I really don't know. If you see it again or already have a pic of it, you might send it to Bergie and see if it can make "Pic Of The Day".

I haven't seen them used in years for anything other than MOW. But that may be just in my neck of the woods.

I watched a video last week that had a strange one on it. It was the narrow guage steam line of Cumbres and Toltec. Anyway this thing was an open air, (no roof whatsoever) car that would seat 2 people. It didn't look like your normal speeder.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

Moo


Mookie [:)]

It might be. I didn't realize how many companies made speeders until about a month ago. I will find the website and list it here. But there were alot of companies that one time made speeders. Cushman might have been one, I really don't know. If you see it again or already have a pic of it, you might send it to Bergie and see if it can make "Pic Of The Day".

I haven't seen them used in years for anything other than MOW. But that may be just in my neck of the woods.

I watched a video last week that had a strange one on it. It was the narrow guage steam line of Cumbres and Toltec. Anyway this thing was an open air, (no roof whatsoever) car that would seat 2 people. It didn't look like your normal speeder.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

Moo


Mookie [:)]

It might be. I didn't realize how many companies made speeders until about a month ago. I will find the website and list it here. But there were alot of companies that one time made speeders. Cushman might have been one, I really don't know. If you see it again or already have a pic of it, you might send it to Bergie and see if it can make "Pic Of The Day".

I haven't seen them used in years for anything other than MOW. But that may be just in my neck of the woods.

I watched a video last week that had a strange one on it. It was the narrow guage steam line of Cumbres and Toltec. Anyway this thing was an open air, (no roof whatsoever) car that would seat 2 people. It didn't look like your normal speeder.


It was a golf cart, silly!

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Are there any railroads who still use speeders? When I was little we called them put-put cars. [:p] I know that some of the MOW crews have some still but do the signalmen and others have them still or have HI-Rails pretty much taken their place. I once saw a postcard with a 3-wheeled bike for rails. It was kinda like a go-cart but with only 3 wheels.
I saw a track checker in a cushman type vehicle - all alone on the Amtrak line near where I observe. Is this like what you are talking about?

Moo


Mookie [:)]

It might be. I didn't realize how many companies made speeders until about a month ago. I will find the website and list it here. But there were alot of companies that one time made speeders. Cushman might have been one, I really don't know. If you see it again or already have a pic of it, you might send it to Bergie and see if it can make "Pic Of The Day".

I haven't seen them used in years for anything other than MOW. But that may be just in my neck of the woods.

I watched a video last week that had a strange one on it. It was the narrow guage steam line of Cumbres and Toltec. Anyway this thing was an open air, (no roof whatsoever) car that would seat 2 people. It didn't look like your normal speeder.


It was a golf cart, silly!

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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:59 PM
to answer your headlight question we have 2 and 3 seting on the headlights dim med and high on some engines and dim and bright on others. the head lights are bright but dont seem to reflect as bad in fog. the nose type headlights ( like bnsf ) are easier than the top mounted lights to see with. the ditch lights make it impossible to live with the reflection. this is why in heavy fog i turn the ditch lights off. we can not dim the headlight and run leagle. they must be on ffor the crossings. and in heavy fog engineers are not looking at the track per say. we are looking for land marks besides the rail. these are referance points we use to know when we have reached the bottom of the hill or the top of a hill. when in heavy fog there might be a dranage ditch just before the bottom that i use to tell me i am at the bottom and to start getting notches on the throttle. and we know where are crossing are. Then we go with other things rain not a problem snow can be as bad as fog sleet no problem just fog. ive been through heavy smoke who is going to stop us. unless its out tracks on fire.

hope this helps
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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:59 PM
to answer your headlight question we have 2 and 3 seting on the headlights dim med and high on some engines and dim and bright on others. the head lights are bright but dont seem to reflect as bad in fog. the nose type headlights ( like bnsf ) are easier than the top mounted lights to see with. the ditch lights make it impossible to live with the reflection. this is why in heavy fog i turn the ditch lights off. we can not dim the headlight and run leagle. they must be on ffor the crossings. and in heavy fog engineers are not looking at the track per say. we are looking for land marks besides the rail. these are referance points we use to know when we have reached the bottom of the hill or the top of a hill. when in heavy fog there might be a dranage ditch just before the bottom that i use to tell me i am at the bottom and to start getting notches on the throttle. and we know where are crossing are. Then we go with other things rain not a problem snow can be as bad as fog sleet no problem just fog. ive been through heavy smoke who is going to stop us. unless its out tracks on fire.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 21, 2003 1:56 AM
wabash [8D] [:)]

Thanks for the info.

The reason I included smoke was because when I was little two of our town's volunteer fireman were struck by a sheriff's car while they were fighting a brush fire next to the road. The sheriff's car was traveling through the dense smoke going about 40 to 50 miles an hour. Later when I drove one of our fire units I tried to keep this in mind. If the smoke was blowing across the road then we requested the sheriff department close the road to protect all involved. This did the trick and no more accidents.

Why do the ditch lights cause problems. Are they a different type of bulb, or different wattage? Would a reflector help this situation any? They seem brighter to me but that may be because they are more eye level than the other lights. Like Nora said when she started this thread umteen pages ago, just a couple of silly little questions. [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 21, 2003 1:56 AM
wabash [8D] [:)]

Thanks for the info.

The reason I included smoke was because when I was little two of our town's volunteer fireman were struck by a sheriff's car while they were fighting a brush fire next to the road. The sheriff's car was traveling through the dense smoke going about 40 to 50 miles an hour. Later when I drove one of our fire units I tried to keep this in mind. If the smoke was blowing across the road then we requested the sheriff department close the road to protect all involved. This did the trick and no more accidents.

Why do the ditch lights cause problems. Are they a different type of bulb, or different wattage? Would a reflector help this situation any? They seem brighter to me but that may be because they are more eye level than the other lights. Like Nora said when she started this thread umteen pages ago, just a couple of silly little questions. [:D]
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 21, 2003 6:28 AM
Ditch lights appear brighter because they are approximately at eye level. They are also aimed slightly outward and downward since their original purpose was to illuminate the ditches along the right-of-way. Metra locomotives and cab coaches are also set up to have the lights blink alternately when approaching a station or grade crossing.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 21, 2003 6:28 AM
Ditch lights appear brighter because they are approximately at eye level. They are also aimed slightly outward and downward since their original purpose was to illuminate the ditches along the right-of-way. Metra locomotives and cab coaches are also set up to have the lights blink alternately when approaching a station or grade crossing.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul

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