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Posted by rvos1979 on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

I'm curious why every road does not require an orange safety vest with Scotchlite stripes to be worn by all operating department employees. It sure makes a difference at night. CPR requires this, but does any other Class I?

Your thoughts, Ed?


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I do know that CN requires vests for T&E, and WSOR requires vests for T&E and MOW employees. On WSOR, They provide orange mesh vests, but I prefer the lime green ala DOT, I think it is more visible when dirty. I'm not sure what is cooler, I prefer the fabric over the mesh, I also have a reflective long-sleeve shirt (my co-workers don't like it when I wear it to work)

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Posted by rvos1979 on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

I'm curious why every road does not require an orange safety vest with Scotchlite stripes to be worn by all operating department employees. It sure makes a difference at night. CPR requires this, but does any other Class I?

Your thoughts, Ed?


Mark:
I do know that CN requires vests for T&E, and WSOR requires vests for T&E and MOW employees. On WSOR, They provide orange mesh vests, but I prefer the lime green ala DOT, I think it is more visible when dirty. I'm not sure what is cooler, I prefer the fabric over the mesh, I also have a reflective long-sleeve shirt (my co-workers don't like it when I wear it to work)

Randy Vos
WSOR Engineer

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Posted by DaveBr on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:07 PM
I recently saw a parked freight train on the siding.There were 5 flatbeds (or some other?)in a row with two axles inbetween each flatbed except at the end which had the regular 2 axles.This type of car must carry a very light load.
But what are these type of cars used for?12 axles total
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Posted by DaveBr on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:07 PM
I recently saw a parked freight train on the siding.There were 5 flatbeds (or some other?)in a row with two axles inbetween each flatbed except at the end which had the regular 2 axles.This type of car must carry a very light load.
But what are these type of cars used for?12 axles total
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Hey LC, have you been(or are you) a trainmaster? I know you were a conductor and you probably have been an engineer but have you done other cool stuff?


No, never a trainmaster. Was a yardmaster for a time. Yes I have been a trainman, brakeman, conductor and locomotive engineer. These various capacities have been on both Class 1 and Class 3 railroads at various times.

Depends upon what you mean by other cool stuff. I have represented railroads as outside (retained) counsel in grade crossing and environmental matters and FELA. I have acted as general counsel for several short lines including forming new short lines by incorporating the corporations, and ICC and STB filings. I have negotiated union agreements. I have been a member of two operating unions and advised on starting a new local in one case. I have served as senior management (V.P. for one short line).

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Hey LC, have you been(or are you) a trainmaster? I know you were a conductor and you probably have been an engineer but have you done other cool stuff?


No, never a trainmaster. Was a yardmaster for a time. Yes I have been a trainman, brakeman, conductor and locomotive engineer. These various capacities have been on both Class 1 and Class 3 railroads at various times.

Depends upon what you mean by other cool stuff. I have represented railroads as outside (retained) counsel in grade crossing and environmental matters and FELA. I have acted as general counsel for several short lines including forming new short lines by incorporating the corporations, and ICC and STB filings. I have negotiated union agreements. I have been a member of two operating unions and advised on starting a new local in one case. I have served as senior management (V.P. for one short line).

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

I'm curious why every road does not require an orange safety vest with Scotchlite stripes to be worn by all operating department employees. It sure makes a difference at night. CPR requires this, but does any other Class I?

Your thoughts, Ed?


Mark-

Just as an add on. CPR requires not only its people to wear the scotchlite it also requires ANYONE working on the property to wear one. NS crews have them for pickup and delivery runs to CPR yards and not wearing it will get you banished from their property.

Conrail issued reflective belts and radio holsters as does the NS. They are not required wear. Conrail had a safety award that was a nice warm blue jacket with reflective lettering and striping that was given one year as a safety bonus, but that also was never required wear.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

I'm curious why every road does not require an orange safety vest with Scotchlite stripes to be worn by all operating department employees. It sure makes a difference at night. CPR requires this, but does any other Class I?

Your thoughts, Ed?


Mark-

Just as an add on. CPR requires not only its people to wear the scotchlite it also requires ANYONE working on the property to wear one. NS crews have them for pickup and delivery runs to CPR yards and not wearing it will get you banished from their property.

Conrail issued reflective belts and radio holsters as does the NS. They are not required wear. Conrail had a safety award that was a nice warm blue jacket with reflective lettering and striping that was given one year as a safety bonus, but that also was never required wear.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Depends on whether you want him to blast you with the headlight and ditch lights on full...

Seriously, if you have the exposed bulb on, it makes no difference, he(or she) can see the light from a long distance.

From the engine, after you are a few cars away, all the engineer really sees is a point of light, wether you point it directly at them or not.


The "flashlight" portion is just that, a flashlight for the switchman to use to read his list, or inspect a car, or just light where he is walking.

Ed


Ed is absolutely correct. When I am running, don't point the light in my eyes if you are close unless you really need my IMMEDIATE attention. From further away it doesn't matter much.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Depends on whether you want him to blast you with the headlight and ditch lights on full...

Seriously, if you have the exposed bulb on, it makes no difference, he(or she) can see the light from a long distance.

From the engine, after you are a few cars away, all the engineer really sees is a point of light, wether you point it directly at them or not.


The "flashlight" portion is just that, a flashlight for the switchman to use to read his list, or inspect a car, or just light where he is walking.

Ed


Ed is absolutely correct. When I am running, don't point the light in my eyes if you are close unless you really need my IMMEDIATE attention. From further away it doesn't matter much.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Eveready?


No, not the battery company. I'm looking for the lantern manufacturer. I used to have one but it broke and I got rid of it.

I think it was Streamline or something like that?? And I think it was in the midwest. This was maybe 8 to 10 years ago.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Eveready?


No, not the battery company. I'm looking for the lantern manufacturer. I used to have one but it broke and I got rid of it.

I think it was Streamline or something like that?? And I think it was in the midwest. This was maybe 8 to 10 years ago.

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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:42 PM
I was talking about say some Triple Crowns, CN, Clipper, Schneider and some Swift trailers all in one consist instead of just one company. That way several large trucking companies might add to the roadrailer trains. In a roadrailer train you might see not only Triple Crown but some BNSF, Landstar, Yanke, J.B Hunt, Schneider, etc.

I was also wondering if any kind of trailer can be made into a roadrailer or it just a Wabash National thing?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:42 PM
I was talking about say some Triple Crowns, CN, Clipper, Schneider and some Swift trailers all in one consist instead of just one company. That way several large trucking companies might add to the roadrailer trains. In a roadrailer train you might see not only Triple Crown but some BNSF, Landstar, Yanke, J.B Hunt, Schneider, etc.

I was also wondering if any kind of trailer can be made into a roadrailer or it just a Wabash National thing?
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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:32 PM
Nobody seems to have answered the question half above about 'mixed RoadRailer trains". The answer is YES -- if you mean ordinary freight cars and RoadRailer vans in the same train -- but ONLY if the ordinary cars are ahead of the RoadRailers. (For what I consider entirely self-evident reasons!!!) The answer is also YES if you mean 'mixed' in the sense of passenger and freight cars on the same train: does the name "Three Rivers" ring a bell in this context? (Here the same observations as above apply, with the added fillip that at least one HEP locomotive has to stay connected to the passenger cars at all times, whether or not there's any switching or change in train consist.

Now, if you mean "mixed" in the sense of one of those plans to put passenger modules on the rails using RoadRailer/RailRunner/BladeRunner technology, there's an even more qualified YES -- you start to get into very uncharted territory regarding how the passenger modules will be handled, suspended, etc., where in the train they are best handled (considering that slack action, braking, stringlining, etc. are very different on RoadRailer -- or other extremely low-tare-weight system -- trains).

My personal preference would be to put the pax up front, behind the motive power, unless you have automobiles in some form of COFC or AutoMax, which contrary to Auto-Train standards would have to lead due to their construction. If you have containers or pods for the automobiles that can ride on RailRunners and still meet loading-gauge restrictions (e.g. through tunnels with catenary) you decide on convenience whether they go before or after some or all of the trailing vans. If the passenger 'containers' have their own self-contained power, you can have some of them at the rear of the consist (e.g. a 'special' or privileged part of a train, with an observation car that has a view) but I suspect the ride will suffer somewhat. My suspicion is that any BladeRunner would have to be at the trailing end of a RoadRailer or RailRunner consist, whether or not it were running using autonomous power; that Colorado Railcar-style "DMU" units would have to run ahead of any lightweight articulated stuff in a consist; and that private-car handling would involve some frankly interesting compromises, since even with waivers they'd only be safe if coupled directly to the power and ahead of anything else in trail...
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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:32 PM
Nobody seems to have answered the question half above about 'mixed RoadRailer trains". The answer is YES -- if you mean ordinary freight cars and RoadRailer vans in the same train -- but ONLY if the ordinary cars are ahead of the RoadRailers. (For what I consider entirely self-evident reasons!!!) The answer is also YES if you mean 'mixed' in the sense of passenger and freight cars on the same train: does the name "Three Rivers" ring a bell in this context? (Here the same observations as above apply, with the added fillip that at least one HEP locomotive has to stay connected to the passenger cars at all times, whether or not there's any switching or change in train consist.

Now, if you mean "mixed" in the sense of one of those plans to put passenger modules on the rails using RoadRailer/RailRunner/BladeRunner technology, there's an even more qualified YES -- you start to get into very uncharted territory regarding how the passenger modules will be handled, suspended, etc., where in the train they are best handled (considering that slack action, braking, stringlining, etc. are very different on RoadRailer -- or other extremely low-tare-weight system -- trains).

My personal preference would be to put the pax up front, behind the motive power, unless you have automobiles in some form of COFC or AutoMax, which contrary to Auto-Train standards would have to lead due to their construction. If you have containers or pods for the automobiles that can ride on RailRunners and still meet loading-gauge restrictions (e.g. through tunnels with catenary) you decide on convenience whether they go before or after some or all of the trailing vans. If the passenger 'containers' have their own self-contained power, you can have some of them at the rear of the consist (e.g. a 'special' or privileged part of a train, with an observation car that has a view) but I suspect the ride will suffer somewhat. My suspicion is that any BladeRunner would have to be at the trailing end of a RoadRailer or RailRunner consist, whether or not it were running using autonomous power; that Colorado Railcar-style "DMU" units would have to run ahead of any lightweight articulated stuff in a consist; and that private-car handling would involve some frankly interesting compromises, since even with waivers they'd only be safe if coupled directly to the power and ahead of anything else in trail...
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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:57 AM
Hey LC, have you been(or are you) a trainmaster? I know you were a conductor and you probably have been an engineer but have you done other cool stuff?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:57 AM
Hey LC, have you been(or are you) a trainmaster? I know you were a conductor and you probably have been an engineer but have you done other cool stuff?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:53 AM
Eveready?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:53 AM
Eveready?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:31 AM
I'm looking for the company that manufactures the passenger trainman's lanterns. You remember the little tin ones that'd fit in your back pocket and took two "C" cells. Any ideas?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:31 AM
I'm looking for the company that manufactures the passenger trainman's lanterns. You remember the little tin ones that'd fit in your back pocket and took two "C" cells. Any ideas?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:24 AM
Testing...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:24 AM
Testing...

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Posted by Mikeygaw on Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 PM
what is a 'rollout'?
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 PM
what is a 'rollout'?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:26 PM
Wabash National may be the only manufacturer that has been licensed to build Roadrailers. I don't know who actually holds the patent.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:26 PM
Wabash National may be the only manufacturer that has been licensed to build Roadrailers. I don't know who actually holds the patent.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:20 AM
Can there me mixed roadrailer trains and does the trailers have to be Wabash National?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:20 AM
Can there me mixed roadrailer trains and does the trailers have to be Wabash National?
Andrew

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