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BQ23-7
Posted by pmsteamman on Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:51 AM
Can anybody tell me what ever happended to SBD (CSXT) BQ23-7s? Last pic I saw of them they had the windows plated over and reduced to booster unit status. Did CSXT turn them into razor blades or a museum or shortline pick some up?
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:12 AM
The caption on this photo says they were all scrapped
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=20828
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Posted by AztecEagle on Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:17 AM
Too Bad.Seems Like They Coulda Saved At Least one For A Museum.
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Posted by packers97 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:57 AM
They are kinda cool looking locos. What EMD and Ge are puttting out nowdays all look the same. I often have questions like this and everybody says check out Extra 2200 south. I've picked up a couple of issues, but there doesn't seem to be a way to index there back issues to find out what has happened to particular units. Anybody know a trick I'm missing?
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, April 9, 2006 2:18 PM
A GE riding on EMD trucks...look at the photo in the above link...
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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 3:59 PM
From Wikipedia:

"Following a practice dating back to SAL U30B's of 1966-67, SCL's 10 BQ23-7's and 30 standard B23-7 were delivered riding reconditioned Bolmberg trucks from EMD trade in-ins." ...

Interesting ...
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, April 9, 2006 4:04 PM
From personal experience, they ride better than whats on GEs...
Our MK1500Ds ride on Blomberg, with clasp brakes, ride great, and stop fast.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 4:59 PM
Amazing how perspectives change over time.

Interesting thing about this for me is how well I remember the scores of railfans, modelers, and myself remarking "how UGLY" these things were! Essentially B23-7s with the experimental crew cab.

I have to admit that they don't look so bad to me anymore. A shame one couldn't be saved.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:06 PM
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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bnsfkline2

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I'l admit that I had a double take on that one![:I]

TRAINS did an article on this loco a couple months ago methinks? Not sure of exact date.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

Amazing how perspectives change over time.

Interesting thing about this for me is how well I remember the scores of railfans, modelers, and myself remarking "how UGLY" these things were! Essentially B23-7s with the experimental crew cab.

I have to admit that they don't look so bad to me anymore. A shame one couldn't be saved.

I'm still in the "how ugly" camp on that one. Every picture I've seen shows them in the gray Family Lines Paint scheme, which certainly didn't help the situation.

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Posted by james saunders on Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:08 PM
we are used to them here in Aus, that sort of cab that is

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 10, 2006 12:39 AM
The GE P42 Genesis Series is the modern style of this cabin concept. The P42 is more attractive than the BQ23-7. I thought there was a versiion of the BQ23-7 with a second row of windows.

The Family Lines Paint scheme did not use the Red and Yellow paint to properly increase the unit's visibility and accentuate the distinct angles of the Crew Cabin. It might have been one of the worst paint schemes because it was too stealthy.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Monday, April 10, 2006 1:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

I'm still in the "how ugly" camp on that one. Every picture I've seen shows them in the gray Family Lines Paint scheme, which certainly didn't help the situation.

Hey Murph-
3003 made it into the Bright Future scheme
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=98971
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, April 10, 2006 7:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

I'm still in the "how ugly" camp on that one. Every picture I've seen shows them in the gray Family Lines Paint scheme, which certainly didn't help the situation.

Hey Murph-
3003 made it into the Bright Future scheme
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=98971

That does look a lot better. It has sort of a European look to the cab. I'm not so sure they hired the best painter though. The fool painted right over the windows![D)][:o)]

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Posted by ndbprr on Monday, April 10, 2006 8:03 AM
The only one I ever saw was in the B&OCT Chicago Barr yard and I think it was repainted for CSX. I'd have to look at my slides to be sure.
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Posted by pmsteamman on Monday, April 10, 2006 8:47 AM
To me they were GEs test bed for widebodies, after some refinement you have Dash8 40CW. Only saw pictures of them myself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 10, 2006 10:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

I'm still in the "how ugly" camp on that one. Every picture I've seen shows them in the gray Family Lines Paint scheme, which certainly didn't help the situation.

Hey Murph-
3003 made it into the Bright Future scheme
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=98971

That does look a lot better. It has sort of a European look to the cab. I'm not so sure they hired the best painter though. The fool painted right over the windows![D)][:o)]


In the mid-90's CSX turned the BQ's into B-units and plated the windows over.
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Posted by waltersrails on Monday, April 10, 2006 11:31 AM
i saw it on railpictures.net it is ugly
I like NS but CSX has the B&O.
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Monday, April 10, 2006 11:40 AM
I always thought those were cool! BN's GP50s with a similar "Q" cab were also interesting to me... I was sad to see that they were scrapped, not to mention made into B units. BTW, Bachmann made a model of this engine in HO scale, which they later retooled into their B23-7 -- good thing, since sales couldn't have been too good with a one-railroad engine like this!
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Posted by carnej1 on Monday, April 10, 2006 11:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by pmsteamman

To me they were GEs test bed for widebodies, after some refinement you have Dash8 40CW. Only saw pictures of them myself.


GE initially offered the crew cab as an option on the entire Universal line in the mid seventies but the only taker was CSX. When GE designed the cab they were most interested in incorporating it into a modified U18B as a yard switcher. I have an old copy of Diesel Era with an article about it. The entire crew cab concept reached fruition in the twilight of the caboose era (witness the BN GP50s with the EMD version)........

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