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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:56 PM
You know something Joe,?
If we were allowed to decide on the disicpline given out, we might fire these guys outright. the part that makes me, and most of us really mad is, they did it the correct way in one track, providing point protection. And then went to the very next track, and shoved it blind, even after being told it was full.

Now, what if someone had been riding on the side of the hoppers, or had been standing there next to one of the switches, waiting to line it for the first kick, and the hopper had fallen over, not stayed upright.

What these kids did was risk the life of the bottom end crew, to save a few minutes work. Not to mention the total cost of all of the repair and clean up, the lost business, because the people who need the plastic are out of luck, and either have to wait for another shipment, or buy it somewhere else, and wait for our insurance to pay them.

Of course they are out of service right now, awaiting the invistigation, which will be short and sweet, (ha ha) they both have admitted to shoving blind, but claim they never heard the radio call telling them the track was full. but the tapes show them acknowledgeing the call, so...

I dont take risk with other peoples lives, and take a dim view when others risk mine. But I wasnt there, so what I feel is just that, my feelings. But if I was one of the night crews on the yard bottom, I would be really POed at them, and let them know about it.

Stay Frosty,
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

matt wants to know if the parties responsible got a timeout[:D]
stay safe
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:56 PM
You know something Joe,?
If we were allowed to decide on the disicpline given out, we might fire these guys outright. the part that makes me, and most of us really mad is, they did it the correct way in one track, providing point protection. And then went to the very next track, and shoved it blind, even after being told it was full.

Now, what if someone had been riding on the side of the hoppers, or had been standing there next to one of the switches, waiting to line it for the first kick, and the hopper had fallen over, not stayed upright.

What these kids did was risk the life of the bottom end crew, to save a few minutes work. Not to mention the total cost of all of the repair and clean up, the lost business, because the people who need the plastic are out of luck, and either have to wait for another shipment, or buy it somewhere else, and wait for our insurance to pay them.

Of course they are out of service right now, awaiting the invistigation, which will be short and sweet, (ha ha) they both have admitted to shoving blind, but claim they never heard the radio call telling them the track was full. but the tapes show them acknowledgeing the call, so...

I dont take risk with other peoples lives, and take a dim view when others risk mine. But I wasnt there, so what I feel is just that, my feelings. But if I was one of the night crews on the yard bottom, I would be really POed at them, and let them know about it.

Stay Frosty,
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

matt wants to know if the parties responsible got a timeout[:D]
stay safe
joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman
what the honk is karo syrup?


All you could ever want to know about Karo Syrup can be found here:
http://www.karosyrup.com/about.asp

...the Karo History, FAQ, nutritional facts, etc. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman
what the honk is karo syrup?


All you could ever want to know about Karo Syrup can be found here:
http://www.karosyrup.com/about.asp

...the Karo History, FAQ, nutritional facts, etc. [:)]
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:01 PM
Kevin - like maple syrup - it is used as a sweetner. It was possibly corn syrup - all in the same family. I do hope you do eat pancakes up north? Karo is actually a brand name for a sweet syrup.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:01 PM
Kevin - like maple syrup - it is used as a sweetner. It was possibly corn syrup - all in the same family. I do hope you do eat pancakes up north? Karo is actually a brand name for a sweet syrup.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:38 PM
what the honk is karo syrup?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:38 PM
what the honk is karo syrup?
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:28 AM
Joe - tell Matt they got enough timeout to help look for other jobs! Maybe they can become professional cooks!

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:28 AM
Joe - tell Matt they got enough timeout to help look for other jobs! Maybe they can become professional cooks!

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

matt wants to know if the parties responsible got a timeout[:D]
stay safe
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

matt wants to know if the parties responsible got a timeout[:D]
stay safe
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:20 AM
Isn't this just a hoot! Poor Ed - a true blue collar working man! I thought this might help relieve a little stress on YOUR job! Mine looks like sandbox play, now.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:20 AM
Isn't this just a hoot! Poor Ed - a true blue collar working man! I thought this might help relieve a little stress on YOUR job! Mine looks like sandbox play, now.

Jen

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Dig a hole, cover the EPA guy with corn syrup, sprinkle liberally with plastic pellets, bury 'em?
[:D]Bureacrats, can't shoot em, and can't barbque em.
And their ugly as all get out when you stuff them and mount them on the wall.
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Dig a hole, cover the EPA guy with corn syrup, sprinkle liberally with plastic pellets, bury 'em?
[:D]Bureacrats, can't shoot em, and can't barbque em.
And their ugly as all get out when you stuff them and mount them on the wall.
Stay Frosty,
Ed[8D]

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
TIM A
As usual, I was late to the main event, just showed up in time to help clean up after everybody else had all the fun.[^]
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 7:26 PM
Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 7:26 PM
Ed, if you plan to have another party like that, Do not invite me!!!!!
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:42 PM
Dig a hole, cover the EPA guy with corn syrup, sprinkle liberally with plastic pellets, bury 'em?
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:42 PM
Dig a hole, cover the EPA guy with corn syrup, sprinkle liberally with plastic pellets, bury 'em?
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:40 PM
Sounds like a big mess!
stay safe
joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:40 PM
Sounds like a big mess!
stay safe
joe

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:32 PM
Thanks Jenny.
Bring a shovel.
Ok, heres the short version. Night time yard crews screwed up.
Friday night top end crew shoved a track out into the side of the bottom crew, who came on duty right after me. The top crew shoved a tankcar of corn sweetener/syrup into the side of a cut of covered hoppers, loaded with plastic pellets, that the bottom job was dragging out to switch. The tank rode up on top of the first hopper, destroyed the hopper and derailed it, then the tank rolled over the next two in line, destroyed them also, fell down parallel to the track, and ripped the sides out of the next six hoppers, all the time leaking syrup all over the place. The bottom crew was still dragging the track, because the cars never fell over, just derailed, but kept on rolling on the ties, so we ended up with plastic pellets, covered with syrup, everywhere, three destroyed turnouts, 300 feet of ties and rail twisted beyond salvage.
Of course, the FRA has to come out and see, and they bring a EPA guy with them, because of the corn syurp. Seems if all that had gotten spilled was the plastic, we could have dug a pit and buried it, no problem, according to the EPA guy. But, the corn syurp is attracting bugs, ants and such. And the gulls form the ship channel, along with a few million dumb pigeons, are flocking all over the place, eating the bugs, and the sweet plastic pellets. Seems it is a hazzard to the wildlife to bury the stuff covered with the syurp. So its ok with the EPA to bury millions of pounds of non- degradable plastic pellets, but a bio- hazzard to bury the corn syurp with it, because it will create a huge ant pile, and the brids will eat the bugs and few stray pellets left. So we have a contractor out there, with a huge tank truck, vacumeing up all this crap, and hauling it away to a EPA certified land fill. So we can bury plastic, that wont decompose for a 100 years, but cant bury corn syurp, which will decompose and be gone in a month.
Oh, and we have to wa***he ballast also, to remove the syurp, and remove 4 inches of dirt because its also a bio-hazzard.
Wow, your taxs dollars at work.
And this took 7 yard tracks out of service for the weekend, waiting for this guy to clean up the plastic so MOW can replace the track work. So I spent the entire weekend sloughing and double handleing cars, and switching into 9 classification tracks when I normally have 16 tracks to work with, only to have to reswitch them again and again when we needed the cars that should have gone to the out of service tracks.
And after a weekend of smelling hot corn syurp, nothing tastes like food, even coffee tastes like warm sugar. Heck, I even cut back on smoking, the cigarettes taste like the corn syurp too.This stuff would gag a maggot.
Add to it fact that this stuff is super sticky, my boots are sugar coated, my jeep smells like sugar refinery, and the house cats keep dragging my boots off, licking the crud off of them, and I ruined a brand new pair of gloves, not even broke in good yet.
So if you have a use for clear plastic pellets, covered with Karo syurp, bring a shovel and a big bag, we got lots and lots of the stuff. Some times I think they dont pay me enough to do this.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:32 PM
Thanks Jenny.
Bring a shovel.
Ok, heres the short version. Night time yard crews screwed up.
Friday night top end crew shoved a track out into the side of the bottom crew, who came on duty right after me. The top crew shoved a tankcar of corn sweetener/syrup into the side of a cut of covered hoppers, loaded with plastic pellets, that the bottom job was dragging out to switch. The tank rode up on top of the first hopper, destroyed the hopper and derailed it, then the tank rolled over the next two in line, destroyed them also, fell down parallel to the track, and ripped the sides out of the next six hoppers, all the time leaking syrup all over the place. The bottom crew was still dragging the track, because the cars never fell over, just derailed, but kept on rolling on the ties, so we ended up with plastic pellets, covered with syrup, everywhere, three destroyed turnouts, 300 feet of ties and rail twisted beyond salvage.
Of course, the FRA has to come out and see, and they bring a EPA guy with them, because of the corn syurp. Seems if all that had gotten spilled was the plastic, we could have dug a pit and buried it, no problem, according to the EPA guy. But, the corn syurp is attracting bugs, ants and such. And the gulls form the ship channel, along with a few million dumb pigeons, are flocking all over the place, eating the bugs, and the sweet plastic pellets. Seems it is a hazzard to the wildlife to bury the stuff covered with the syurp. So its ok with the EPA to bury millions of pounds of non- degradable plastic pellets, but a bio- hazzard to bury the corn syurp with it, because it will create a huge ant pile, and the brids will eat the bugs and few stray pellets left. So we have a contractor out there, with a huge tank truck, vacumeing up all this crap, and hauling it away to a EPA certified land fill. So we can bury plastic, that wont decompose for a 100 years, but cant bury corn syurp, which will decompose and be gone in a month.
Oh, and we have to wa***he ballast also, to remove the syurp, and remove 4 inches of dirt because its also a bio-hazzard.
Wow, your taxs dollars at work.
And this took 7 yard tracks out of service for the weekend, waiting for this guy to clean up the plastic so MOW can replace the track work. So I spent the entire weekend sloughing and double handleing cars, and switching into 9 classification tracks when I normally have 16 tracks to work with, only to have to reswitch them again and again when we needed the cars that should have gone to the out of service tracks.
And after a weekend of smelling hot corn syurp, nothing tastes like food, even coffee tastes like warm sugar. Heck, I even cut back on smoking, the cigarettes taste like the corn syurp too.This stuff would gag a maggot.
Add to it fact that this stuff is super sticky, my boots are sugar coated, my jeep smells like sugar refinery, and the house cats keep dragging my boots off, licking the crud off of them, and I ruined a brand new pair of gloves, not even broke in good yet.
So if you have a use for clear plastic pellets, covered with Karo syurp, bring a shovel and a big bag, we got lots and lots of the stuff. Some times I think they dont pay me enough to do this.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, July 21, 2003 2:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz1

C'mon Ed--inquiring minds want to know!!

Hey Jen, as you brought up the subject of parties,

since you are rather centrally located, perhaps you might consider hosting a party for you fellow forumites. We could all kick in an appropriate amount of $$. I'd be willing to drive from Wisconsin... Perhaps if there was a county park somewhere near the tracks we could rent?

Probably a dumb idea, but that has never stopped me before.

[:o)] you really think you can get this whole group together in one spot at a specified time? This is almost funnier than Ed's weekend!

We will call this posting Mookie's revenge! Ed challenged her, so now she is returning the challenge.

Jen[}:)]

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, July 21, 2003 2:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz1

C'mon Ed--inquiring minds want to know!!

Hey Jen, as you brought up the subject of parties,

since you are rather centrally located, perhaps you might consider hosting a party for you fellow forumites. We could all kick in an appropriate amount of $$. I'd be willing to drive from Wisconsin... Perhaps if there was a county park somewhere near the tracks we could rent?

Probably a dumb idea, but that has never stopped me before.

[:o)] you really think you can get this whole group together in one spot at a specified time? This is almost funnier than Ed's weekend!

We will call this posting Mookie's revenge! Ed challenged her, so now she is returning the challenge.

Jen[}:)]

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Posted by zardoz on Monday, July 21, 2003 2:09 PM
C'mon Ed--inquiring minds want to know!!

Hey Jen, as you brought up the subject of parties,

since you are rather centrally located, perhaps you might consider hosting a party for you fellow forumites. We could all kick in an appropriate amount of $$. I'd be willing to drive from Wisconsin... Perhaps if there was a county park somewhere near the tracks we could rent?

Probably a dumb idea, but that has never stopped me before.

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