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Can someone help me identify this locomotive???

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Can someone help me identify this locomotive???
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:37 PM
So me and my dad were at Proviso the other day, where I spotted this. Sorry about the bad pic, but it was cloudy and there was a slight drizzle, and I took this with my long lense through and open window of my dads Jeep.

http://www.railimages.com/gallery/chrisgroeling/abh?full=1

It looks like an SD45...but is it? If so, does it still have he 645 prime mover??? any info would be much apprecieted ...thanks!! [:D]

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Posted by beaulieu on Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:41 PM
I was at one time a SD45, it is now a SD40M-2. The V20 engine of a SD45 has been replaced with the V16 engine of a SD40, and the electrical system has been upgraded to near -2 modular standards.
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Posted by chad thomas on Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:45 PM
That about sums it up. I think Morison Knudsen rebuilt it around 92'.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:46 PM
Ohh, thank you very much. So if I wanted to try and make a model of this, all I would have to do is aqquire an SP SD45, and paint a UP patch on it.. right?
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Posted by chad thomas on Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:52 PM
I have modeled 3 SD45s. The Athern SD45s were unproportionaly wide and looked bad. So I bought shells that were correct and detailed them out (I think they were Rail Power shells). They turned out pretty good but for some reason I don't remember they are all dummies now.
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

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Ack !
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:43 PM
Haha.h..aaa! That doesn't sound like fun! And we don't have the military we had back then! Whoah, I'm giving you guys too much information!!

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Posted by chad thomas on Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

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That's funny, especialy the first clip. Thanks for the laugh.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

That about sums it up. I think Morison Knudsen rebuilt it around 92'.

(waiting for Nanimo73 to come in here and slap me around with some facts)[;)]


FACTS! FACTS! We don't need no stinkin' facts. This is a message board.[;)]

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Posted by chad thomas on Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

That about sums it up. I think Morison Knudsen rebuilt it around 92'.

(waiting for Nanimo73 to come in here and slap me around with some facts)[;)]


FACTS! FACTS! We don't need no stinkin' facts. This is a message board.[;)]


Is that a fact?[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 2:04 PM
Facts just get in the way! (Just ask certain members of the Bush Administration[;)])
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

I have modeled 3 SD45s. The Athern SD45s were unproportionaly wide and looked bad. So I bought shells that were correct and detailed them out (I think they were Rail Power shells). They turned out pretty good but for some reason I don't remember they are all dummies now.


Are Katos correct..?.... you see I have this $$$ saved up..[;)]
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Posted by ericsp on Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rgroeling

Ohh, thank you very much. So if I wanted to try and make a model of this, all I would have to do is aqquire an SP SD45, and paint a UP patch on it.. right?
\Why would you want to patch it? SP's SD40M-2s were in the 8574-8706 series, although not all were rebuilt from former SD45s. If you click on the SP locomotives link, and to a lesser extent the Nor-Cal Espee Connection link, you can find out more about these locomotives.

If memory serves me correctly, it was about 1994 that MK rebuilt these.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:42 PM
Since we're playing "Identify the Locomotive", I have one picture I took while at the Medina RR Museum, but it's of the front end only. There's no side picture. Sorry.

http://tinypic.com/jrwe54.jpg
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Posted by rrandb on Thursday, January 5, 2006 11:29 PM
while I know I won't win I guess Alco. stop me if I'm wrong
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, January 6, 2006 1:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jim_White

Since we're playing "Identify the Locomotive", I have one picture I took while at the Medina RR Museum, but it's of the front end only. There's no side picture. Sorry.

http://tinypic.com/jrwe54.jpg


My guess was a Maine Central U25B.
Missed it by that much !
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=7144
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 1:59 AM
Ok, rrandb, stop.

nanaimo, that's a good guess and you're so close.

It's a U18B.

http://www.trainweb.org/trains/NWNY.html
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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rgroeling

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

I have modeled 3 SD45s. The Athern SD45s were unproportionaly wide and looked bad. So I bought shells that were correct and detailed them out (I think they were Rail Power shells). They turned out pretty good but for some reason I don't remember they are all dummies now.


Are Katos correct..?.... you see I have this $$$ saved up..[;)]


I can't call it. I have never had a Kato. My fleet is 90% Athern blue box with a few Bachman Spectrums and a couple Model Power(?) switchers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 3:12 PM
Sounds like a good fleet! What railroad(s) do you model?
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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, January 6, 2006 4:53 PM
At the risk of getting chewed out for talking models on this thread....[#dots]

I model 1995 SP (although right now I don't have a layout).
I have a good cross cut of what you might see on the SP right before the merger. I used to model contemporary but the merger screwed that up and I stopped modeling modern.
Mostof what I have is blue box, although I add quite a bit of detail. Typicaly I put numbers in the lighted numberboards, drill and add grab irons on the ladders and short hood. Then I add cab details, air conditioner proper horn, sun visors, rear view mirrors and winshield wipers. Then the snowplow and MU/ air hoses. I usually stick with the stock paint job and just paint the details, but I have painted and decaled some that started out as blank shells like my B39-8s,GP60s,C44-9s and SD70Ms because there were none available back then. I also re-bodied my 3 SD45s with proper width bodies.

I have:

SP/SSW
2 SW1500
1 SD9
2 GP9
1 GP35
2 GP38-2
2 GP40-2
3 GP40M-2
3 GP60
1 B39-8
4 SD40-2
10 SD40T-2
1 C44-9
1 SD70M

DRGW
1 SD50
2 SD40T-2
2 GP9

AT&SF
2 FP45
1 F45
1 SD40-2
1 GP50

BN
2 F7 (one A one B)
1 GP38-2
1 SD40-2

UP
1 GP50
1 SD40-2
1 C40-8W
1 SD60M

Amtrak
1 F40PH

Conrail
C40-8

I may have missed a few but that is pretty much it.
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Posted by rrandb on Friday, January 6, 2006 5:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jim_White

Ok, rrandb, stop.

nanaimo, that's a good guess and you're so close.

It's a U18B.

http://www.trainweb.org/trains/NWNY.html
I'm sorry, it's just that I miss them so much. [*^_^*]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:15 PM
An SD35 on steroids
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:02 PM
Kato SD45s are really close. ive got one in CP(even though its not REALLY a 45) and i love it. runs so well. have 2 more Kato SD40-2s too, just for the record

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