QUOTE: Originally posted by jarubel I give up. It might be on C-Span tonight. Now the time has changed to 4:27 am. Keep checking the schedule if you want to catch it. http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar Yes, I totally agree with above assessment of Rep. LaTourette's counting of the problems at hand concerning Amtrak and Mr. Gunn's firing....he seemed sharp on the subject and not by any means a yes man of the Administration. Now if I can find when C-SPAN is going to broadcast the 10 oclock hearing today.....If anyone sees the time please post it here.....Thanks.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 Hi, I'm running for president.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar ....Well 2 and 2:30 have come and gone and found nothing on C-SPAN regarding broadcasting the recorded Hearings of 10 this morning....Dissapointing. If anyone sees where it will be broadcast later...please post it.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal Hey vsmith, not suprise you *talk* to the furniture. BC bud will have that affect on you.
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal I for one am glad Gunn is gone, he was not a team player, and his *vision* for Amtrak was nothing short of blind. The current modus operandi for Amtrak is a dead-ender, frankly always has been and always would be, and Gunn's penchant for continuing down that same path makes him a dead-ender as well. It isn't just Amtrak that needs change, it is the whole concept of rail passenger. We need someone who will drag the rail passenger communitiy kicking and screaming out of the 1930's logistics the rule the roost today, and start them down the path of fitting rail passenger concepts into the modern transportation network. You're right. Someone who's competent and capable of doing their job has no place in this administration. Anybody that runs a passenger railroad, improving customer service and increasing passenger carriage figures is definately screwing up. Maybe they should put a show horse judge in his place. How soon we forget how well the airlines provided passenger flights on September 11, 12, and 13. Oh wait, they were GROUNDED. Public transportation isn't on the minds of this "silver spoon" administration, they can just hop in their gas guzzling SUV's and go where and when they want. Hmmm, I guess it all comes down to your skewed definition of "competent". I guess in your world "competent" means complete aquiesence to anachronistic leftist *ideals*. David Gunn was incompetent. He was trying to keep Amtrak going down the road of outdated logistics. I would think even folks like you would admit that trying to run a transportation operation with outdated logistics is the poster child of incompetence, but of course your political views are also outdated, so at least your view of what is and isn't *competent* is consistent. Tell me, which *forward thinking* world leader do you admire the most? Castro? Schroeder? Chirac? Chavez?
QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal I for one am glad Gunn is gone, he was not a team player, and his *vision* for Amtrak was nothing short of blind. The current modus operandi for Amtrak is a dead-ender, frankly always has been and always would be, and Gunn's penchant for continuing down that same path makes him a dead-ender as well. It isn't just Amtrak that needs change, it is the whole concept of rail passenger. We need someone who will drag the rail passenger communitiy kicking and screaming out of the 1930's logistics the rule the roost today, and start them down the path of fitting rail passenger concepts into the modern transportation network. You're right. Someone who's competent and capable of doing their job has no place in this administration. Anybody that runs a passenger railroad, improving customer service and increasing passenger carriage figures is definately screwing up. Maybe they should put a show horse judge in his place. How soon we forget how well the airlines provided passenger flights on September 11, 12, and 13. Oh wait, they were GROUNDED. Public transportation isn't on the minds of this "silver spoon" administration, they can just hop in their gas guzzling SUV's and go where and when they want.
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal I for one am glad Gunn is gone, he was not a team player, and his *vision* for Amtrak was nothing short of blind. The current modus operandi for Amtrak is a dead-ender, frankly always has been and always would be, and Gunn's penchant for continuing down that same path makes him a dead-ender as well. It isn't just Amtrak that needs change, it is the whole concept of rail passenger. We need someone who will drag the rail passenger communitiy kicking and screaming out of the 1930's logistics the rule the roost today, and start them down the path of fitting rail passenger concepts into the modern transportation network.
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal If the folks of St Paul voted their mayor out of office soley for the fact that he endorsed Bush back in 2004, then those folks are dumber than you guys. I would expect that there are other issues out there that affected that election. Hmmm, Democrat mind-sets dominating an election in a heavily Democratic city. That's a shock. Kind of like all those *polls* that show Bush's popularity is falling, it turns out only 35% of the respondents were Republican, while the rest were Democrats and "independents" i.e. people who vote Democrat but are too ashamed to admit it. Since over 50% of the nation has identified themselves as Republican, one would think those pollsters would want a sample base that reflects the nation's political makeup, unless of course they are really engaged in push polling....... The folks in St Paul voted out their REPUBLICAN mayor (wonder how he got elected in the first place in a "heavily Democratic" city?) I also notice there's no breakout of the Democrats and Independents. Probably because there's LOTS of the "Independents" that are Republicans and afraid to admit it. So he was Republican! Shocking. A Republican mayor being voted out in a Democrat city! Imagine that! KInda like heavily Democratic New Jersey and Virginia electing Democrat governers, whoda thunk it! QUOTE: Seems anyone can manipulate statistics and prove whatever point they want. Well, that seems to be the modus operandi of the media dissection of the 2005 elections. BTW, weren't there also Republicans elected to LG and AG in Virginia? Ooops, there I go *manipulating* statistics again!
QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal If the folks of St Paul voted their mayor out of office soley for the fact that he endorsed Bush back in 2004, then those folks are dumber than you guys. I would expect that there are other issues out there that affected that election. Hmmm, Democrat mind-sets dominating an election in a heavily Democratic city. That's a shock. Kind of like all those *polls* that show Bush's popularity is falling, it turns out only 35% of the respondents were Republican, while the rest were Democrats and "independents" i.e. people who vote Democrat but are too ashamed to admit it. Since over 50% of the nation has identified themselves as Republican, one would think those pollsters would want a sample base that reflects the nation's political makeup, unless of course they are really engaged in push polling....... The folks in St Paul voted out their REPUBLICAN mayor (wonder how he got elected in the first place in a "heavily Democratic" city?) I also notice there's no breakout of the Democrats and Independents. Probably because there's LOTS of the "Independents" that are Republicans and afraid to admit it.
QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal If the folks of St Paul voted their mayor out of office soley for the fact that he endorsed Bush back in 2004, then those folks are dumber than you guys. I would expect that there are other issues out there that affected that election. Hmmm, Democrat mind-sets dominating an election in a heavily Democratic city. That's a shock. Kind of like all those *polls* that show Bush's popularity is falling, it turns out only 35% of the respondents were Republican, while the rest were Democrats and "independents" i.e. people who vote Democrat but are too ashamed to admit it. Since over 50% of the nation has identified themselves as Republican, one would think those pollsters would want a sample base that reflects the nation's political makeup, unless of course they are really engaged in push polling.......
QUOTE: Seems anyone can manipulate statistics and prove whatever point they want.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas Wouldn't it be funny if Gunn got reinstated and Mineta got fired.[tup]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Maybe so Big Boy, but I've grown tired all over trying to talk to the rock's, had better conversations talking to the furniture.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 Here's an interesting sidebar to the whole Gunn thing. Check out this topic from about 10 weeks ago. http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=43863 Now for the update. It seems that both Randy Kelly, the then St Paul Mayor, and Mr Gunn, have met with similar fates. Both seemed to be on the wrong side of Mr Bush, but for opposite reasons. You see, Mr Kelly, a democrat, was soundly defeated in his re-election bid last week. The media points to his open endorsement of Mr Bush in 2004, where he was seen shaking hands and hugging the president. Chris Coleman, another democrat, was elected by a 63% to 37% margin. The people of St Paul sent a real message to Mr Kelly and Mr Bush. I don't live in the city, so this wasn't my election, but the results are quite telling.
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