QUOTE: Originally posted by RPRiebe Here is a cut and paste of what I asked Murph: What I am trying to find, new or used, is some books that cover the diesel locomotives used between 1950-1970. It is the fifties locos that probably were written about once but not for quite some time. There is a Encyclopedia of Railroad Locomotive 1960 edition, or something like that, that the library has here, and I was too stupid to pickup at a antique store fifteen years ago, that gives a good rundown of the era of the end of steam and the beginning of Diesel, but I have never seen one for sale again. Books such as that, would be my preference, as to buy singular locals books will add up to, I have already done some checking, to hundreds of dollars, so a general, but era specific book, is what I prefer. It is hard to describe as there are books out now, some I have, but they all cover the well known locomotives both steam and diesel ,from that era, and really ignore many of the import-export locomotives that were specific to a region or country, or anglo builders. I have found, out-of-print, books, usually on steam, at antique shop and some neighborhood hobby shop, but the best usually seem to go out of business. Where do some of you gents, find the hard get, or locate books, especially at not-scalping prices. Has anyone ever done a all EE, Vickers Armstrong, or all Alsthom locomotive book, such a work would have all the early info available, I would imagine. Bob
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QUOTE: Originally posted by MP173 Do Official Guides count in the collection? Got a bunch of those. ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C I have the following that might be of interest "GEC Traction - Power for the World's Railways" by Rodger Bradley, Oxford Publishing 1993. This is OK rather than outstanding but has a good collection of official photgraphs and a complete UK English Electric builder's list and a "GEC Traction Ltd" list from 1970 to 1992 (which seems to follow the EE list with a gap of 1200, for previous GEC units?). "The British Internal Combustion Locomotive 1894-1940" by the late Brian Webb, published by David and Charles in 1973. A really good book but not very detailed regarding builder's numbers in total. "Las Locomotoras de Espana" (in Spanish) by Salmeron & Campo published by Terminus (Barcelona) in 1985. A really good book with every detail you'd want on Spanish non-steam motive power. "Spoorweg Materieel in Nederland" (in Dutch) by Nieuwenhuis & Nahon, published by Uitgeverij de Alk BV in 1987. Good technical data but no builder's numbers. "SBB Locomotiven und Treibwagen". The SBB do an excellent book on their own locomotives in German and French. It is periodically updated, but I have the 1990 issue. Scale drawings, photos and brief technical details of diesel and electric power. and last of course "Locomotives in China" (which I wrote myself) published by Roundhouse Press in 1983. This is still as far as I know, the only book in English detailing first generation Chinese diesel and electric locomotives as well as a lot on steam (and I don't have any left for sale, but some might turn up secondhand!) An even older book of mine is "An Australian Diesel Locomotive Pocketbook" published by the Australian Railway Historical Society (NSW) in 1974 which listed all the non-industrial locomotives in Australia up to that date. Reasonable technical data but no builder's numbers. I hope this is on topic for your request. M636C
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmar I definitly qualify as a book nut. I have about 40 train related books and probably about 400 other books including ... Edward Abbey...
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QUOTE: Originally posted by MP173 I have 24 Official Guides of the Railways, most of which are in the 60's and 70's. The OG was published monthly and contained all of the passenger schedules. The railroads were laid out on a roughly east to west configuration in the book. Each major railroad had a map, listing of executives and listing of all passenger trains, in timetable form. In addition, the railroad would list the equipment for each train, such as coaches, sleepers, diner, etc. Most lines also listed the "freight only" lines. Short lines were also listed. So, an Official Guide was (is) a major reference for not only passenger service, but for nearly all railroad lines in the US, Mexico, and Canada. For instance, I can tell you right now by randomly opening my mid 50's OG that A.L.M. Wiggins was the Chairman of the Board of the Charleston & Western Carolina Railway Company and that the C&WC ran a passenger train daily from Augusta , Ga (dept 915am) to Port Royal, SC (ar 120pm) which turned and left at 245pm arriving back at Augusta at 635pm with 21 stops on the 113.4 mile one way trip. It doesnt list this as a mixed train (freight and passenger) but it possibly was. The Guides also had an exhaustive index of communities served which was over 200 pages. With the maps, the timetables, listings of all routes, and the index, the Guides were (and are) a great tool. One can trace the decline of the passenger service quite easily. One can purchase Guides on Ebay. At any time there are probably 10 or more listed. Typical prices are in the $10 -$25 range. If I were buying, I would purchase one from the 50's and one from the 60's. By the 70's the format had changed and with very few passenger trains left, it was pretty spartan. Make room on the shelf if you start collecting as they were typically 1500 pages in the 50's and 60's. Also, the paper is pretty thin and fragile. Thus, I will have "working" copies that I use frequently. The one I referred to above is such. I have no idea of it's publication date as the cover (and several front pages) are gone. But, it serves it's purpose. Murphy, as much as you enjoy detail in railroading, go buy one. It might be the best $$$ you spend on the hobby. ed
QUOTE: MP173 Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 12:19:18 siberian: I love to go back to certain years that I took train trips as a kid in the 60's and relive the trip. The OG's are great for that. There is a publication out that lists every freight car (by series). I believe it is called the Official Railway Equipment Register. I have one of those from the 90's. In the listing, it has reporting marks (by railroad and private fleet), sizes, dimensions, load limits, plate, and lots of other things. Another big thick book printed on flimsy paper, but not nearly as interesting as the OG. BTW...I see a OG from a couple of years (40's) listed in Trains for sale on CD. Somehow I cannot pull the trigger on it. I prefer the book instead. I think I will go to EBAY and pickup a couple more. ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by up829 If you've just finished "The Tootin Louie", "The Northwestern" by H. Roger Grant would be a logical next choice. 180 pages of C&NW history right up to the buyout. Well written with pictures, maps, but mostly text. Another along similar lines is "The Los Angeles & Salt Lake" by John Signor. This is a history of UP's LA line up to the Centenials. I'm not sure if "The Moffat Road" by Edward Bollinger has been reprinted but it covers the Denver & Salt Lake. The author worked for the railroad and the book includes many stories covering operation over Corona Pass and later through the Moffat tunnel.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding Amatuer Book Review #7 Burlington Northern and its Heritage by Steve Glischinski ISBN # 0-7603-0236-7 I found this gem at the public library. This book is 192 pages,with about 100 wonderfull, color pictures! Chapters cover the predecessor roads,merger and divisions of BN. It's all clearly written,interesting to read, and the photos! You'll like this book if you're into: BN,GN,NP,SPS,Frisco,western railroads,railroad history or rail photos. Remember, I'm a lumber salesman, not a writer.
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