Originally posted by dblstack [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ndbprr Member sinceSeptember 2002 7,486 posts Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:56 AM there is one in pristine condition in New Buffalo, Michigan n US 35. Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:17 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr there is one in pristine condition in New Buffalo, Michigan n US 35. I'm not familiar with that one--is it by the old roundhouse? (U.S. 35 gets no closer to New Buffalo--or Michigan--than Michigan City, Indiana. Could it be somewhere off Route 212--which runs into 35--instead?) Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:58 PM There are a couple at the Wichita Falls Railroad museum. They were converted for MOW service. Smitty Reply Kurn Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Akron,OH 229 posts Posted by Kurn on Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:07 PM Check out the NKP and Mad River museum in Bellevue,Ohio.They have a couple of restored ones. If there are no dogs in heaven,then I want to go where they go. Reply cstaats Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Pacific Northwest 117 posts Posted by cstaats on Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:45 PM There is a World War II hospital car in Snoqualmie, Wa Chris Reply ndbprr Member sinceSeptember 2002 7,486 posts Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:53 PM I thought it was US 35 but whatever the main drag is that runs in from the east and intersects US 12 in downtown at the traffic light - that's the road. It is about 1/4 to 1/2 mile east on the south side of the road. I believe it could be an old roundhouse it is near that is now a bar. It has a dual brake system also. Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:54 PM B&O Museum "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:16 PM The is also one at the railroad museum in Temple TX. dd Reply Tim Burton Member sinceApril 2005 From: Phoenix, AZ 81 posts Posted by Tim Burton on Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:58 PM There is one South of Cincinnatti in Covington, KY. http://www.federalist.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:26 AM I'm not 100% certain, but I believe there are a couple out on the back lot behind the steam shop at the Illinois Railway Museum. Almost everything back there has been saved from the scrapper, but has not been restored. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 8:45 PM Much thanks to all who replied. I would have never guessed that there were so many still around. Thanks, Stack. Reply Edit CSSHEGEWISCH Member sinceMarch 2016 From: Burbank IL (near Clearing) 13,540 posts Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, September 19, 2005 10:14 AM Most troop sleepers and troop kitchens from the WW2 era were sold off pretty quickly as surplus and those that weren't scrapped were rebuilt to an incredibly wide variety of purposes, especially on Alaska RR. Monon rebuilt hospital cars to re-equip its passenger trains and also rebuilt some troop sleepers or troop kitchens to mail and express cars. Incidentally, the hospital kitchen car shown above is from the postwar era. The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, September 19, 2005 11:21 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I thought it was US 35 but whatever the main drag is that runs in from the east and intersects US 12 in downtown at the traffic light - that's the road. It is about 1/4 to 1/2 mile east on the south side of the road. I believe it could be an old roundhouse it is near that is now a bar. It has a dual brake system also. Thanks for the specifics--yes, that's in the area of the roundhouse (there should be a coal dock there yet, too). The road is (or was) Michigan Highway 239--becomes Indiana Route 39 when it crosses the border. East (or south) of the railroad it has an interchange with I-94 (Michigan Exit 1), and also is the road for the "LaPorte" exit on the Indiana Toll Road. C&O--or possibly the Pere Marquette--got quite a few troop cars after they became available. Most were converted for MofW use, but a few became box express cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Tharmeni Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Southwestern Florida 501 posts Posted by Tharmeni on Monday, September 19, 2005 12:39 PM OK, I knew that the Monon's passenger fleet was old troop cars, so my question is: Did any of the Monon passenger cars survive? Reply StillGrande Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Alexandria, VA 847 posts Posted by StillGrande on Monday, September 19, 2005 2:05 PM There were two parked in Richmond at the military depot (my grandfather worked there but I don't know the name of the base - it was just the depot to me). I don't know if they are still there but they were there as long as I could remember going there. Dewey "Facts are meaningless; you can use facts to prove anything that is even remotely true! Facts, schmacks!" - Homer Simpson "The problem is there are so many stupid people and nothing eats them." Reply Tharmeni Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Southwestern Florida 501 posts Posted by Tharmeni on Monday, September 19, 2005 3:18 PM Were they in the Monon black and gold livery? Reply corwinda Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 389 posts Posted by corwinda on Monday, September 19, 2005 4:30 PM The museum in Ely NV has at least one troop car. Reply vsmith Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Smoggy L.A. 10,743 posts Posted by vsmith on Monday, September 19, 2005 6:03 PM San Diego RR Museum in Jacumba has a couple if memory serves me. Have fun with your trains Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM I have seen the one in New Buffalo, Michigan near the Indiana border, and it is in good shape. Yes, it is within feet of the old roundhouse (what is left) that is now a private (?) health club. The ones in Bellvue, Ohio are very good, as is the one in Covington, Ky. Amazing how many are still around and used for various purposes. Best Regards, Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:32 PM Just to additionally confirm, I saw the 1 or 2 troop sleepers at Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois over July 4th this year, and though they are not in great shape, they are still preservable, and very interesting. I'll try to go dig up the photos I have of those and the ones in Michigan, and Ohio and Kentucky. I'll post them when I find them. Best Regards, Reply Edit PaulWWoodring Member sinceApril 2001 From: US 62 posts Posted by PaulWWoodring on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:09 AM The Gaithersburg freight house museum has an ex-WM troop kitchen car last used on the CSX wreck train. Can be seen if you look quick from the Capital Ltd. Reply CNW-400 Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: Batavia IL 52 posts Posted by CNW-400 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 9:27 PM You say you're looking for any in the Midwest area, there is a troop sleeper at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL. It's a Pullman-Standard Built in 1943, Length: 51ft 8in, Width: 10ft, Height: 13ft 2in, Weight: 70700 lbs. Reply zars Member sinceNovember 2003 4 posts Posted by zars on Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:09 PM There are several of them at the Mad River and Nickel Plate Museum in Bellevue, Ohio. They were part of a private individual's collection that was donated to the museum and contain many railroad artifacts on display. At least one of them is fitted out as it was when used as a troop sleeper. When I worked on the Chessie System rail gang from 1982-1984; I stayed on a camp train of nothing but these cars. They had a lot more soul than the pre-fab boxes on flat cars we stayed on from 1985 on. I observed one of these very cars I stayed in in the scrap line in Richmond, VA in 1991. Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr there is one in pristine condition in New Buffalo, Michigan n US 35.
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"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics
QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I thought it was US 35 but whatever the main drag is that runs in from the east and intersects US 12 in downtown at the traffic light - that's the road. It is about 1/4 to 1/2 mile east on the south side of the road. I believe it could be an old roundhouse it is near that is now a bar. It has a dual brake system also.
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