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Mystery UP Units Identified
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:11 PM
There has been a lot of speculation about what is under the tarps. Here it is:

There will be 5 units, MP, WP, CNW, SP, and MKT. MP will be Blue scheme, WP is in New Image (***ized with the silver trucks though). CNW will be Lightning Strike, MKT will be Green and Yellow (I am told also a ***ized scheme). I was not told what scheme the SP unit will be. There will be no DRGW.

UP is hoping to have 3 of the units there on Saturday for the unveiling.

These are NOT Military decorated units as some are speculating.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by FRRS Webmaster

There has been a lot of speculation about what is under the tarps. Here it is:

There will be 5 units, MP, WP, CNW, SP, and MKT. MP will be Blue scheme, WP is in New Image (***ized with the silver trucks though). CNW will be Lightning Strike, MKT will be Green and Yellow (I am told also a ***ized scheme). I was not told what scheme the SP unit will be. There will be no DRGW.

UP is hoping to have 3 of the units there on Saturday for the unveiling.

These are NOT Military decorated units as some are speculating.


David,

Cool, what fun it will be to catch one of these units on the point! Thanks for the heads up.

BTW - For those that might be interested the Portola Railroad Museum has a newly created discussion forum at http://wplives.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi, and everybody is invited to visit and join up.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:17 AM
you're welcome Jimmy, I'll tell you more off the board in a few minutes
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:50 AM
That will sooo coool. I can just hear the UP Dispatcher call MP on the Scanner.
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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:05 AM
Thats really cool. If only UP had done this because they realized they needed to reach out to railfans by creating a link to the past rather than to enfornce a copyright.

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Posted by alstom on Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:15 AM
Watch out before wctransfer gets on here and posts like heck! That is awesome! To bad I live in the east. By the way Coborn35, how'd you get all of those trains on the bottom of your post?
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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:03 PM
Yah, me and alec wont probably see them because we live in Minnesota.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, July 29, 2005 11:41 AM
Nice to see that UP is displaying pride in its heritage.

Please forgive me for wondering but, is UP also doing for this due to the "trademarks" issues? From what I understand, if a company uses an old symbol from its past at least one time then its still protected.

Anyway, in either case I'm glad they're doing this. Would love to see a RIO GRANDE Tunnel Motor! [:D]

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 29, 2005 11:45 AM
I agree it would be nice if they did a SD40T-2 in DRGW colors. I think they should also do an SP tunnel motor too.
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Posted by csmith9474 on Friday, July 29, 2005 11:49 AM
I would assume that there are a few "unpatched" Rio Grande locomotives out there. I know of at least one that works out of Colorado Springs. I always see it downtown with a Rio Grande caboose coupled to it, I am guessing used for transfer. I am with you on the tunnel motor, AntonioFP45.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, July 29, 2005 12:46 PM
Coborn35 : What's the last locomotive in your little parade at the bottom of your message? A Conrail twin SD-70? An SD-140 perhaps?

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, July 29, 2005 12:55 PM
Hmm, this will be interesting, and a nice change of color, no matter how small (5 units compared to X number on roster). These are all SD70ACe's correct? New aged technology, combined with the golden oldies, so to speak.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 4:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Coborn35 : What's the last locomotive in your little parade at the bottom of your message? A Conrail twin SD-70? An SD-140 perhaps?


I like to take a guess, an EMD DD70?
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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 29, 2005 4:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Coborn35 : What's the last locomotive in your little parade at the bottom of your message? A Conrail twin SD-70? An SD-140 perhaps?


I like to take a guess, an EMD DD70?


I'd guess a dual cab SD70M.[;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 5:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Coborn35 : What's the last locomotive in your little parade at the bottom of your message? A Conrail twin SD-70? An SD-140 perhaps?


I like to take a guess, an EMD DD70?
You mean SD70ACe. Secondly,The light Blue is NOT correct on that unit. The correct color for the MoPac is a very dark Blue. Allan.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 5:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan.

QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Coborn35 : What's the last locomotive in your little parade at the bottom of your message? A Conrail twin SD-70? An SD-140 perhaps?


I like to take a guess, an EMD DD70?
You mean SD70ACe. Secondly,The light Blue is NOT correct on that unit. The correct color for the MoPac is a very dark Blue. Allan.


No, I don't mean a SD70ACe. When EMD built its double diesel units for the Union Pacific during the SD40 era, they called it a DDA40X. So to go with the EMD model classifacation I'd think it would be called a DDA70X. [:D] Just for fun.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, July 29, 2005 5:27 PM
Coborn35 : Did you change the locomotives on your train parade, or am I confused?

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Posted by Bullitt406 on Friday, July 29, 2005 6:58 PM
No D&RGW? Yet they are doing SP? There are 15 unpatched Riogrande diesels still around and how many SP units?

Exactly.

Ridiculous.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 7:35 PM
Ok now that you made it more clearly.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, July 29, 2005 9:25 PM
BNSF railfan: huh? I don't see a blue locomotive in Coborn35's parade-do you?

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Posted by Gluefinger on Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:07 AM
MP did have a light blue color though....just not in their later years. And these units will have UP reporting marks, not MP ones, so no dispatcher will call "MP 1982' on the scanner- it''ll be "UP 1982"
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:22 AM
I posted this once, but it got lost in computer land I guess. If it shows up on another post somewhere, it just shows how bad I am at this.LOL

Maybe UP should paint the last locomotive in the Kodachrome scheme. They could then show it off to their western competitor, with a new logo-something along the lines of "UP-SP nanner-nanner" [;)]

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Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Coborn35 : Did you change the locomotives on your train parade, or am I confused?

Nope, Mr.Bergstrom informed me that it was stretching out all the post, (although it wasnt that bad) so i changed it. Should I take off a locomotive and put the SD160MAC back?

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Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:51 AM
The folling photos were take by Mike Vana.

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1982R.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1983.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1983R.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1982-1983.jpg


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:51 AM
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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:56 AM
For the number-crunchers:

UP 1982 is ex-8379.
UP 1983 is ex-8383.

I couldn't find any more SD70ACEs in the upper 1900s, yet.
Certainly interesting-looking beasts. I'd love to "edit" those paint jobs, but the fact that anything at all like this has been presented is great!

The writing to the left of the UP logo on these units reads:

PROVEN HERITAGE
POWERFUL FUTURE

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Posted by ShaunCN on Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:11 PM
well that accounts for two of the 4 primer units ive seen so far, today i saw 4 more UP SD70ACe's in our yard, Cn Sarnia yard... one was the last UP ordered unit #8423 suprisingly it was in primer... maybe more heritage units to come!!
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Posted by locomutt on Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:13 PM
VERY NICE paint schemes !!
Great roadnames also,beats the heck out of that 'yellow & gray' ? stuff.

Now watch the paint and decal manufacturers go "NUTS"
reproducing those,for us 'modelers' !!

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Posted by wctransfer on Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:15 PM
Dude, how cheap of UP! Not even doing real paintjobs. Jeeze. The CNW will probably be catostrophic! But they do look cool, just not , im not sure, true? Id like to see a real paintjob.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:47 PM
aye...just be glad the effort was made. i think it's pretty neat whether or not it's historically accurate. anytime someone wants to post more pictures of 'em feel free!

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